“Free DLCs are the best and so is the monthly update”
“These free DLCs sucks and so do the monthly updates”
“I would rather pay $10 and wait 2 to 3 month for each DLC”.
Let’s say this, you’re in a fast food restaurant that you never went before and you want something to eat. You orde a burger, some fries, maybe some nugets, and a coke. To your surprise they say that the food is free, so you say thank you and you go sit down. When you start to eat you don’t like the food and you go and throw away your food to go somewhere else and you think “wow I would rather pay for food” you go to another fast food restaurant and you order the food, but you have to pay for it. Since you were thinking that if you payed for the food it’s going to taste better and you’ll like it. Nope, you sit down, you start to eat, and you don’t like the food. You throw away the food leav and then you think to yourself “man, I wasted my money and that?”.
What am I trying to say with this? I’ seeing on these forums that the reason that the “DLC” (wich are actually updates) suck is because they’re free and they would rather wait 2 to 3 month and pay for the DLC pack (wich is exactly what I wrote in the quotations above), but look at what I wrote. Paying for something doesn’t make it better. You know something that will make these DLC packs better? If they were released 2 to 3 even to 4 month apart, just that and you keep them free so everybody is happy.
One last thing, if they do the “2 to 3 month wait and pay for them” for Halo 6, it does divide the player base. I’ve seen people say that “it won’t divide the player base because I’m paying them”. What’s that? Just because YOU pay for theme that means that everybody pays for them? I’m sorry but that’s just not right. Not everyone pays for them.
The problem with the “free updates” is that they are being used to complete the game
the game launched in an unfinished incomplete state and 343i have been using the “free updates” to finish the game
When I first saw “15 free updates” I thought it would be actual new content that they would add to the game to enhance the experience of halo 5
instead they are just adding in all the things they removed in the first place and then calling it “free”
also so if you read the back of the H5 case is advertises the 15 free updates
so the 15 free updates are not “free” they are part of the initial purchase of the original product
The fact that the basic level of normal Halo content was dragged out and not in the game at launch ruined Halo 5 for me, I got bored of it withing a week because I’m not one for slayer and the lack of objective modes and social playlist gave me no reason to play. I have not truely enjoyed Halo 5 and I am not finding that I can’t get into it because I was put off it due to lack of content.
Even now that they have added some of the content back I just don’t have any drive to play because I’m bored of the game in general. If Halo 5 had of been released with all this “free” content I would have enjoyed it a lot more and would probably still be playing today.
If Halo 6 has this same model I am done because it’s simply a waste of my time and money to buy it.
Honestly at this point I wish I hadn’t purchased an Xbox One as I very much bought it for Halo and so far after 2 released title I feel I have yet to get a Halo game that is in anyway worth while.
Ok there’s a misunderstanding on what I wrote so let me try to correct it. I’m talking more about the amount of content that these updates have, specifically the maps. I’m not talking about the stuff that should’ve been at launch and that they are part of the free dlc.
This topic is undoubtedly going to be like the war to end all wars (world war I)
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> The problem with the “free updates” is that they are being used to complete the game
> the game launched in an unfinished incomplete state and 343i have been using the “free updates” to finish the game
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> When I first saw “15 free updates” I thought it would be actual new content that they would add to the game to enhance the experience of halo 5
> instead they are just adding in all the things they removed in the first place and then calling it “free”
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> also so if you read the back of the H5 case is advertises the 15 free updates
> so the 15 free updates are not “free” they are part of the initial purchase of the original product
15 updates? I thought there were only going to be 8
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> Ok there’s a misunderstanding on what I wrote so let me try to correct it. I’m talking more about the amount of content that these updates have, specifically the maps. I’m not talking about the stuff that should’ve been at launch and that they are part of the free dlc.
I’d rather pay if it meant Reqs were removed. I hate that system with a passion. It’s part of the reason warzone exists and the reason they didn’t plan BTB
The problem with the updates is that they’re drip feeding us content that should have been released at launch (gametypes, File Browser, emblem colors and so on) and even now over half a year after launch the game is STILL playing catchup. Even Halo 4 which stripped away a bunch of gamemodes and options was a significantly fuller, more versatile experience than Halo 5 has ever been. And on top of that, the few additons that aren’t launch material are remixes 90% of the time, which makes it feel like 343i aren’t really putting that much effort into it. It’s as if these updates are only there to make the REQ machine keep rolling, and the rest is just a load of disappointment.
Ffs, we have Oddball and Ricochet IN THE GAME and 343i aren’t putting them in matchmaking. It wouldn’t even require its own playlist, just fold it into Team Arena. I really don’t think that’s too much to ask.
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> The problem with the updates is that they’re drip feeding us content that should have been released at launch (gametypes, File Browser, emblem colors and so on) and even now over half a year after launch the game is STILL playing catchup. Even Halo 4 which stripped away a bunch of gamemodes and options was a significantly fuller, more versatile experience than Halo 5 has ever been. And on top of that, the few additons that aren’t launch material are remixes 90% of the time, which makes it feel like 343i aren’t really putting that much effort into it. It’s as if these updates are only there to make the REQ machine keep rolling, and the rest is just a load of disappointment.
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> Ffs, we have Oddball and Ricochet IN THE GAME and 343i aren’t putting them in matchmaking. It wouldn’t even require its own playlist, just fold it into Team Arena. I really don’t think that’s too much to ask.
Dude, look at my correction, I’m not talking about that
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> > Ok there’s a misunderstanding on what I wrote so let me try to correct it. I’m talking more about the amount of content that these updates have, specifically the maps. I’m not talking about the stuff that should’ve been at launch and that they are part of the free dlc.
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> I’d rather pay if it meant Reqs were removed. I hate that system with a passion. It’s part of the reason warzone exists and the reason they didn’t plan BTB
Why would you pay though? Didn’t you look at my topic? Also the REQs are fine they just need some tuning and they aren’t the reason Warzone exisit
Logically people who see it as the content that should have been in the game from the start have valid clames to support there reasoning. Anyone else is illogical and needs to have there reasoning set straight.
Honestly though OP, intresting topic.
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> > > 2533274974695300;4:
> > > Ok there’s a misunderstanding on what I wrote so let me try to correct it. I’m talking more about the amount of content that these updates have, specifically the maps. I’m not talking about the stuff that should’ve been at launch and that they are part of the free dlc.
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> > I’d rather pay if it meant Reqs were removed. I hate that system with a passion. It’s part of the reason warzone exists and the reason they didn’t plan BTB
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> Why would you pay though? Didn’t you look at my topic? Also the REQs are fine they just need some tuning and they aren’t the reason Warzone exisit
Op has a point, just because you pay for it dosn’t mean it will be any good. Your assuming that if you pay, you receive content that will be of good quality.
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> Logically people who see it as the content that should have been in the game from the start have valid clames to support there reasoning. Anyone else is illogical and needs to have there reasoning set straight.
> Honestly though OP, intresting topic.
In actuality I’m not a fan that the stuff were removed from launch
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> “Free DLCs are the best and so is the monthly update”
> “These free DLCs sucks and so do the monthly updates”
> “I would rather pay $10 and wait 2 to 3 month for each DLC”.
>
> Let’s say this, you’re in a fast food restaurant that you never went before and you want something to eat. You orde a burger, some fries, maybe some nugets, and a coke. To your surprise they say that the food is free, so you say thank you and you go sit down. When you start to eat you don’t like the food and you go and throw away your food to go somewhere else and you think “wow I would rather pay for food” you go to another fast food restaurant and you order the food, but you have to pay for it. Since you were thinking that if you payed for the food it’s going to taste better and you’ll like it. Nope, you sit down, you start to eat, and you don’t like the food. You throw away the food leav and then you think to yourself “man, I wasted my money and that?”.
>
> What am I trying to say with this? I’ seeing on these forums that the reason that the “DLC” (wich are actually updates) suck is because they’re free and they would rather wait 2 to 3 month and pay for the DLC pack (wich is exactly what I wrote in the quotations above), but look at what I wrote. Paying for something doesn’t make it better. You know something that will make these DLC packs better? If they were released 2 to 3 even to 4 month apart, just that and you keep them free so everybody is happy.
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> One last thing, if they do the “2 to 3 month wait and pay for them” for Halo 6, it does divide the player base. I’ve seen people say that “it won’t divide the player base because I’m paying them”. What’s that? Just because YOU pay for theme that means that everybody pays for them? I’m sorry but that’s just not right. Not everyone pays for them.
Stating your opinion will do nothing to change the divided opinions on the issue.
You also seem to miss the point that when I bought doc packs they added things to the game, they didn’t give me " the opportunity" to unlock or things that should have already been in the game.
Waiting 2-3 months between releases would just mean larger quantities of garbage and SIGNIFICANTLY longer waits for fixes.
On a quick side note, If they wanted to release good stuff then they would plan ahead with polls for the community. E.g. here’s a list of 10 possible REQ weapons that will be released 2 months from the next update. The poll is open for two weeks, and the top two weapons will be added. - I imagine that the brute plasma rifle wouldn’t have come close.
Back on point, here’s an objective observation separating "free"from paid: MAPS.
Fact. Since the game’s release, our “free” maps have only included, what, a few remixes and maybe three originals?
However, when it comes to paid DLCs of the past, what are the odds that they just contained remixes and maybe one original? ZERO! Because they knew no one would buy them!!!
So I have to disagree with the OP on this one. Reverse the order on the hypotheticals, you go to the paid place first, then go to the free place. Are you ever going to go to the paid place EVER again if it’s the same product as the free one? NO!
If the paid item is not better than the free one, then people simply aren’t going to buy it ever again. So the paid place MUST be better!
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> > 2533274832130936;2:
> > The problem with the “free updates” is that they are being used to complete the game
> > the game launched in an unfinished incomplete state and 343i have been using the “free updates” to finish the game
> >
> > When I first saw “15 free updates” I thought it would be actual new content that they would add to the game to enhance the experience of halo 5
> > instead they are just adding in all the things they removed in the first place and then calling it “free”
> >
> > also so if you read the back of the H5 case is advertises the 15 free updates
> > so the 15 free updates are not “free” they are part of the initial purchase of the original product
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> 15 updates? I thought there were only going to be 5
I think there were supposed to be 15 free maps, and 8 confirmed updates.
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> Waiting 2-3 months between releases would just mean larger quantities of garbage and SIGNIFICANTLY longer waits for fixes.
>
> On a quick side note, If they wanted to release good stuff then they would plan ahead with polls for the community. E.g. here’s a list of 10 possible REQ weapons that will be released 2 months from the next update. The poll is open for two weeks, and the top two weapons will be added. - I imagine that the brute plasma rifle wouldn’t have come close.
>
> Back on point, here’s an objective observation separating "free"from paid: MAPS.
> Fact. Since the game’s release, our “free” maps have only included, what, a few remixes and maybe three originals?
> However, when it comes to paid DLCs of the past, what are the odds that they just contained remixes and maybe one original? ZERO! Because they knew no one would buy them!!!
>
> So I have to disagree with the OP on this one. Reverse the order on the hypotheticals, you go to the paid place first, then go to the free place. Are you ever going to go to the paid place EVER again if it’s the same product as the free one? NO!
> If the paid item is not better than the free one, then people simply aren’t going to buy it ever again. So the paid place MUST be better!
Well that’s where you’re wrong
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> > “Free DLCs are the best and so is the monthly update”
> > “These free DLCs sucks and so do the monthly updates”
> > “I would rather pay $10 and wait 2 to 3 month for each DLC”.
> >
> > Let’s say this, you’re in a fast food restaurant that you never went before and you want something to eat. You orde a burger, some fries, maybe some nugets, and a coke. To your surprise they say that the food is free, so you say thank you and you go sit down. When you start to eat you don’t like the food and you go and throw away your food to go somewhere else and you think “wow I would rather pay for food” you go to another fast food restaurant and you order the food, but you have to pay for it. Since you were thinking that if you payed for the food it’s going to taste better and you’ll like it. Nope, you sit down, you start to eat, and you don’t like the food. You throw away the food leav and then you think to yourself “man, I wasted my money and that?”.
> >
> > What am I trying to say with this? I’ seeing on these forums that the reason that the “DLC” (wich are actually updates) suck is because they’re free and they would rather wait 2 to 3 month and pay for the DLC pack (wich is exactly what I wrote in the quotations above), but look at what I wrote. Paying for something doesn’t make it better. You know something that will make these DLC packs better? If they were released 2 to 3 even to 4 month apart, just that and you keep them free so everybody is happy.
> >
> > One last thing, if they do the “2 to 3 month wait and pay for them” for Halo 6, it does divide the player base. I’ve seen people say that “it won’t divide the player base because I’m paying them”. What’s that? Just because YOU pay for theme that means that everybody pays for them? I’m sorry but that’s just not right. Not everyone pays for them.
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> Stating your opinion will do nothing to change the divided opinions on the issue.
>
> You also seem to miss the point that when I bought doc packs they added things to the game, they didn’t give me " the opportunity" to unlock or things that should have already been in the game.
I corrected myself in saying that I’m talking about the maps specifically
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> > Logically people who see it as the content that should have been in the game from the start have valid clames to support there reasoning. Anyone else is illogical and needs to have there reasoning set straight.
> > Honestly though OP, intresting topic.
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> In actuality I’m not a fan that the stuff were removed from launch
Nothing was “removed,” technically. They had to rebuild the engine from scratch so they had to remake everything. So they didn’t get around to everything before the game released.
I’m not justifying the absence of content, just trying to provide some insight as to why they were/are missing.
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> > Waiting 2-3 months between releases would just mean larger quantities of garbage and SIGNIFICANTLY longer waits for fixes.
> >
> > On a quick side note, If they wanted to release good stuff then they would plan ahead with polls for the community. E.g. here’s a list of 10 possible REQ weapons that will be released 2 months from the next update. The poll is open for two weeks, and the top two weapons will be added. - I imagine that the brute plasma rifle wouldn’t have come close.
> >
> > Back on point, here’s an objective observation separating "free"from paid: MAPS.
> > Fact. Since the game’s release, our “free” maps have only included, what, a few remixes and maybe three originals?
> > However, when it comes to paid DLCs of the past, what are the odds that they just contained remixes and maybe one original? ZERO! Because they knew no one would buy them!!!
> >
> > So I have to disagree with the OP on this one. Reverse the order on the hypotheticals, you go to the paid place first, then go to the free place. Are you ever going to go to the paid place EVER again if it’s the same product as the free one? NO!
> > If the paid item is not better than the free one, then people simply aren’t going to buy it ever again. So the paid place MUST be better!
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> Well that’s where you’re wrong
What a well reasoned and evidence based argument!