A simple solution to the DMR vs BR problem

The DMR isn’t really an overpowered weapon, it just needs a map only weapon.

There should be 2-4 DMR’s on certain maps, and they can be collected.

Everyone can spawn with a BR or an Assault rifle, suppressor or w/e.

You could do that, you could even put it in ordnance however 343I would never do it.

Know why? The commendation setup. Infinity Slayer will always be a shell of Halo.

So why don’t we just remove all of the loadout weapons until everyone spawns with nothing but a Plasma Pistol. Then you need to find weapons if you want anything better than the worst weapon.

> The DMR isn’t really an overpowered weapon, it just needs a map only weapon.
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> There should be 2-4 DMR’s on certain maps, and they can be collected.
>
> Everyone can spawn with a BR or an Assault rifle, suppressor or w/e.

You must be new around here? :wink:

First of all it’s not just DMR vs BR problem but DMR vs anything else.

Second, DMR is loadout weapon, and since most people are using it as their default weapon, moving it to powerweapon category is much more difficult than simply nerfing it.

> So why don’t we just remove all of the loadout weapons until everyone spawns with nothing but a Plasma Pistol. Then you need to find weapons if you want anything better than the worst weapon.

I believe that is the idea of AR+Pistol starts of Halo past :slight_smile:

> The DMR isn’t really an overpowered weapon, it just needs a map only weapon.
>
> There should be 2-4 DMR’s on certain maps, and they can be collected.
>
> Everyone can spawn with a BR or an Assault rifle, suppressor or w/e.

or just remove the dmr, it doesn’t have to be there, it shoudln’t be there, remove it. remove it 343!!!

I’ve been saying that and many other things for a long time, but people just don’t care about simpler methods of getting things done.

> Second, DMR is loadout weapon, and since most people are using it as their default weapon, moving it to powerweapon category is much more difficult than simply nerfing it.

Going into Forge mode and placing it on a map is more difficult than editing the game’s code? Besides, you all can just go back to yelling “Adapt” at each other again.

> So why don’t we just remove all of the loadout weapons until everyone spawns with nothing but a Plasma Pistol. Then you need to find weapons if you want anything better than the worst weapon.

i wouldn’t go that far… a magnum would suffice

> So why don’t we just remove all of the loadout weapons until everyone spawns with nothing but a Plasma Pistol. Then you need to find weapons if you want anything better than the worst weapon.

Halo 1 had that as the default Slayer starts, if I remember correctly.

> > So why don’t we just remove all of the loadout weapons until everyone spawns with nothing but a Plasma Pistol. Then you need to find weapons if you want anything better than the worst weapon.
>
> I believe that is the idea of AR+Pistol starts of Halo past :slight_smile:

You know well enough that I hated that, too. :slight_smile:

> > So why don’t we just remove all of the loadout weapons until everyone spawns with nothing but a Plasma Pistol. Then you need to find weapons if you want anything better than the worst weapon.
>
> Halo 1 had that as the default Slayer starts, if I remember correctly.

Only on certain maps if you didn’t have the starting weapons set to “Generic.” Slayer Pro used generic weapon spawns, so everyone had an AR and Pistol off spawn.

Some maps had Plasma Rifles and ARs as the starting weapons.

> > > So why don’t we just remove all of the loadout weapons until everyone spawns with nothing but a Plasma Pistol. Then you need to find weapons if you want anything better than the worst weapon.
> >
> > Halo 1 had that as the default Slayer starts, if I remember correctly.
>
> Only on certain maps if you didn’t have the starting weapons set to “Generic.” Slayer Pro used generic weapon spawns, so everyone had an AR and Pistol off spawn.
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> Some maps had Plasma Rifles and ARs as the starting weapons.

True enough, it’s been a while since I’ve played Halo 1 multiplayer, I had forgotten that certain maps had different starting weapons.

I don’t find it too bad… Just strafe well enough and it shouldn’t be a problem.

The BR’s problem is that it will ALWAYS have a disadvantage to the other precision weapons. This is that you have to micromanage 15 different shots while the DMR only has 5, Covie Carbine 8 (9 or 10 depending on skill but still), scoped LR 4, unscoped LR is in the same boat but it can still become scoped.

Usually it isn’t that bad but add factors like lag, large reticule (random spread), and slower rof. Jump into a local custom game then go online and see the difference.

When a classic Halo playlist comes out, I hope all will be well.

I think the balance is fine. Short to medium BR usually wins cause it is easier to aim (larger reticule with spread) medium to long obviously DMR wins, and straight medium its a toss up and goes both ways. Personally, I have no need for BR. I either use the DMR or AR, depends on map. If anything, remove BR.

Oh how I can feel the flames (even though I know I’m right lol)

> The DMR isn’t really an overpowered weapon, it just needs a map only weapon.
>
> There should be 2-4 DMR’s on certain maps, and they can be collected.
>
> Everyone can spawn with a BR or an Assault rifle, suppressor or w/e.

I have an idea… Why not we do away with both weapons, and take the best of both and smash them together and make a weapon that is Burst unzoomed, and semi when zoomed. make everyone happy.

> The DMR isn’t really an overpowered weapon, it just needs a map only weapon.
>
> There should be 2-4 DMR’s on certain maps, and they can be collected.
>
> Everyone can spawn with a BR or an Assault rifle, suppressor or w/e.

No!

I support the use of both. Do away with one, do so for both. Keep one, keep both. I use both. No problem.

> > The DMR isn’t really an overpowered weapon, it just needs a map only weapon.
> >
> > There should be 2-4 DMR’s on certain maps, and they can be collected.
> >
> > Everyone can spawn with a BR or an Assault rifle, suppressor or w/e.
>
> or just remove the dmr, it doesn’t have to be there, it shoudln’t be there, remove it. remove it 343!!!

no thanks, I’d rather remove the br. :wink:

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Almost like… Team Throwdown.