No hate to 343, halo infinite imo going to grow to be a great game but first we need them to fulfil a promise.
This promise is that the challenges wouldn’t effect gameplay and cause people to go out of their way to complete them, think back to reach.
But the challenges we have right now do in some way cause players to go out of their way
For example “kill players holding the flag” doable yea, but if you realistic want to do it quickly you’ll need to camp your flag with a one shot weapon just so they don’t drop the flag afterwards.
Though this address a series of other challenges the. “Destroy X vehicle Z amount of times” these challenges I and I believe the vast majority of people dislike, especially if it a vehicle like a tank or aircraft which seemingly rarely spawn in. So I believe a way to fix this would be to group them all together into a challenge like
“Destroy mongoose, warthog, ghost, choppers X amount of times”
“Destroy scorpions, wraiths, wasp, banshee X amount of times (3-5)”
Again, this isn’t me complaining but just giving some feedback for the beta, as right now btb is very messy and seems to lack the vehicles central focus of the others.
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No I fully agree. The worst challenge I’ve been faced with is get 3 kills by electrical link. The link damage is pathetic and to even proc is you need players to be stood together on low health with no shields. I’d honestly just prefer challenges like ‘Kill x players’ or ‘Play x amount of Games’. Plus the fact all the challenges are limited so after a point you can only earn 50xp a game which is 20 games. Which is god knows how many hours dependent on playstyle.
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That’s a challenge!?!? That’s sounds stupidly hard and requires a very specific way of playing. I don’t even think I’ve gotten a chain kill.
That’s honestly ridiculous that 343 expect anyone to get without “hindering” or playing a specific way, especially like you said, chain damage doing bearly nothing and needing two enemy’s next to eachother weak, and having no one to kill them.
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After doing two weeks of weekly challenge and playing around 90 games I’m only season rank 13 which is also a complete and utter slap in the face for the amount of time I’ve put into the game already
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Did you pay for the Premium Battle Pass?
Oh that was the easier of the challenges I had. I have one where with a single link I have to hit 4 people. I lucked out so hard on BTB when I was able to throw 1 Dynamo into a objective room where all of them were. I’m currently stuck on Destroy 5 Ghosts. Because I get the ghost to go critical but because of the way the game reads it now people just jump out. So you need to do things in such a specific way that it breaks the game loop.
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Yea, it’s stupid how 343 honestly expect people to reasonable complete these, especially with how rng luck based vehicles are. I need to destroy 3 wraiths, which reasonable can only be done by hijacking. Problem is getting one to spawn and having a enemy control it, and I’m not even sure if assist counts.
Dooming or help dooming a vehicle with a enemy in it should no matter what count as destroying a enemy vehicle, same applies to the flag point I made, shooting the flag holder will usually make them drop it, so 343 either need to change these challenges, or make them much more lenient. I.e if you kill someone who dropped the flag within 3~ seconds it should count, same with dooming/assisting in dooming a enemy controlled vehicle.
No and I don’t plan to. I shouldn’t need to pay extra just to have a chance to make any real progress, it’s extremely predatory and I’m glad 343 are looking at changing it, otherwise halo infinite battlepass will probably go down in history as one of the worst models in gaming
I think what gets to me more is I work 9-5 everyday of the week with 2 hours of travel thrown in. I only get a handful of hours a night to do these challenges a week. Add on I have more enjoyable games with weekly progression events in like Forza Horizon 5 which has weekly reward trees that are really achievable and more to the point fun.
These challenges are such a tremendous time sinks that you can go games without any real progress. They need to correct the challenges moving forward. FUN should be the focus.
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Or just don’t have crappy challenges like these in the first place.
Exactly. I don’t know how we’ve gone from MCC challenges to these. I honestly what 343 to do well, I’m not someone who mindless hates them but why should I grind this much only for it to feel like my time isn’t being rewarded in the slightest. I play a lot of destiny, I followed bungie over, and with their current season pass model you can rank up maybe 3 times within two hours if playing casually, furthermore you can’t even buy tiers yet the real people who grind it can still reach season rank 100 week one.
I’m not saying halo should be like destiny, but I can’t see myself playing 90 games a week for 10 levels, especially when my work starts back up
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Exactly. MCC for example, they aren’t the best, but you can actually get them done just by Playing unlike what infinite apparently trying to do
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yeah same i gotta do 3 choppers and it’s proving to be pretty nails, i’ve done 2 and both of those were during quick play 1 of them was pretty funny cause he drove off the map and the other was an assist but counted for some reason.
It’s understandable if you don’t want to reward 343i’s choice in predatory Battlepass model; it wouldn’t surprise me if somebody from Microsoft was in on the developer meetings pushing for this nonsense though; it’s basically Halo 5’s Reqs system fiasco all over again. It’s a damn shame too because they’ve made a great looking game, and with minor tweaks here and there I would be more happy with the way it plays, too. It looks like we’re at least going to get a good Campaign out of this mess, though. As for me, I got the credits for my battle pass with MS Rewards points, so I basically didn’t pay for it anyway.
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They are seemingly changing it, after fan outcry, hopefully it’s enough as if anything I’m thinking about the casual players who will be turned away from it
Games that want to implement challenges should honestly implement a very small number of variations if they really don’t want gameplay to be impacted.
- Kill X enemies.
- Headshot X enemies.
- Kill X enemies while you or the enemy is in a zone or while you or the enemy is holding an objective item.
- Headshot X enemies while you or the enemy is in a zone, or while the enemy is holding an objective.
- Play X games.
- Win X games.
- Play X different game types.
That’s it. Anything more specific than those will force players to seek or specific actions, which inherently will cause them to do stuff other than play the current games objective.
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Completely agree, whilst I do think for the health of the game, having more challenging isn’t a bad thing’s, 343 gone and stretched it out way to far, giving each challenges what feels like 10 sub version for each weapon, action, medel, vehicle ect
I had the worst challenge before had me raging quite a bit as I had:
“Kill X amount of players that are returning their flag”
finding CTF mode
making sure you actually get the flag half way
making sure your alive to nade or shoot said people on the flag
Team being really good and not having a single chance
worst when people prioritise returning the flag its so quick i barely had chances to do it.
had better half of a day trying to get this one challenge that would begin the last set of challenges that is play 15 games.
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Yea, those challenges, whilst can happen naturally, are usually quite rare, and with how unbelievably slow progression is. 2-3 hours for one level just with daily challenges which is ridiculous, people are trying to knock out these weekly asap which leads to that crap, having to set up very specific circumstances.
I have to kill 5 enemy ghosts. Annoying, but like mentioned above, if there was a more consistant vehicle drop as ive just seen them in btb. so that challenge is going to sit there for a while. my friends are like, 10 levels higher than me because of luck of challenges and i’ve been playing about just the same amount of time and im about level 7 
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