I know there have been threads similar to this, but I would like to make a better case than
“BUFF CARBINE BCUZ SUK”
First off, the DMR takes 4-5 Headshots to kill + 14 round Magazine = A chance to get 3 kills with one magazine.
Not 100% on the BR, but I am pretty sure it is 4-6 headshot kill + 36 rounds (12 x 3 shot bursts) = Another 3 people.
Carbine, 8 Headshots to kill + 18 round Magazine = 2 Possible Kills, it takes more shots to kill, but has a higher rate of fire, which means that it is basically the DMR with marginally less damage.
It would be nice to have it buffed, just a tiny bit, enough to make it 6 headshot kill, which would round out the main 3 medium to long range weapons being capable of 3 kills without reloading.
I use the carbine all the time now because its better than DMR (shh dont tell)
> I use the carbine all the time now because its better than DMR (shh dont tell)
Really?
I want to use it really badly but it just seems miserable in comparison to the DMR, it takes so long to kill someone that the BR and DMR both can outshoot you.
I love the Carbine. I thought it was a 7 shot kill, though.
The carbine doesn’t suck, but it does lack some damage. It is really frustrating when a Long range weapon can beat you in a close quarters map when you are using the Carbine…
Don’t get me wrong the carbine rips enemies when they are at half shields, but in a 1v1 fight DMR’s always beat me at close quarters
> > I use the carbine all the time now because its better than DMR (shh dont tell)
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> Really?
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> I want to use it really badly but it just seems miserable in comparison to the DMR, it takes so long to kill someone that the BR and DMR both can outshoot you.
Semi auto.
I think it would be nice if 343i made it one less shot to kill. As it sits right now the Carbine can kill faster than the other guns but there is much less room for error than the others.
> The carbine doesn’t suck, but it does lack some damage. It is really frustrating when a Long range weapon can beat you in a close quarters map when you are using the Carbine…
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> Don’t get me wrong the carbine rips enemies when they are at half shields, but in a 1v1 fight DMR’s always beat me at close quarters
This is basically exactly my thoughts.
It ROCKS if you aren’t fighting people with full shields, but sadly, you have to fight people with full shields all the time, and it sucks against shields so badly, that it really isn’t a fair trade off for the Rate of Fire.
At long range, you are out shot by a DMR
At medium range, you are out shot by the BR
At close range, you are out shot by the AR
So where does the Carbine even fit in?
If you cant use it, why bother.
> If you cant use it, why bother.
Because I would like it to be able to at least COMPETE with another weapon… I have loved the Carbine ever since Halo 2, it was my favorite weapon of all time. When I saw it back in Halo 4 with minimal changes to looks and sound, I was so happy about it.
I would just like to able to use my favorite weapon without having the trade off of only getting half the kills I can get with a DMR or BR.
I played against a guy who had a modded controller,the carbine fired the a machine gun… too bad he still sucked
> > If you cant use it, why bother.
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> Because I would like it to be able to at least COMPETE with another weapon… I have loved the Carbine ever since Halo 2, it was my favorite weapon of all time. When I saw it back in Halo 4 with minimal changes to looks and sound, I was so happy about it.
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> I would just like to able to use my favorite weapon without having the trade off of only getting half the kills I can get with a DMR or BR.
Im sending you a PM on how to use this weapon properly.
> I use the carbine all the time now because its better than DMR (shh dont tell)
lolno, carbine beats the br but then gets -Yoink- on by the dmr
Maybe the carbine could have a faster reload time (about the speed of a Boltshot reload when using the Dexterity mod) and ROF. But in return, it does a bit less damage.
So while the kill time and headshots may remain the same, it allows for spamming shots to take down kills while not needing to worry about relaying. Thus, you do not need to worry about taking time to reload.
> > I use the carbine all the time now because its better than DMR (shh dont tell)
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> lolno, carbine beats the br but then gets -Yoink- on by the dmr
I guess all the DMR users I encounter suck then… Oh well.
Not sure how accurate this info is, but here’s a list of kill times for each of the long range rifles someone on the 343 forums compiled:
Carbine
•18 shots per clip
•7 shots to kill
•2 kills per clip (max) (2 kills and 4 shots [4 shots being 4/7ths of a kill] ~2.57142857 kills)
•42 frames per kill
•1.4 seconds to kill (exact)
DMR
•15 shots per clip
•5 shots to kill
•3 kills per clip (max) (3 exactly)
•44 frames per kill
•1.46 (repeating 6) seconds to kill
BR
•12 shots per clip (36 bullets)
•5 shots to kill
•2 kills per clip (max) (2 kills and 2 shots [2 shots being 2/5ths of a kill] = 2.4 kills)
•55 frames per kill
•1.83 (repeating 3) seconds to kill
Yes that. Above. The only thing with a slightly faster kill than Carbine is LR whilst zoomed.
I would like to see a revised list like that, but using Body shots instead of headshots.
The only way that list works, is if both people are standing still and not jumping or moving at all.
I honestly wonder how some people come up with these numbers. With in an hour or so of multiplayer you should already know how many bullets it takes to kill, and the guessing just makes me laugh.
Also funny how some people still haven’t noticed the DMR has 14 shots, and CAN NOT get 3 kills in one clip unless it is assisted.
facepalm Even more posts that just don’t know what they are talking about. I’m sorry it’s kind of hard not to sound rude. But seriously, body shots do the same amount of damage as head shots, it has been like that since Reach. Half the reason the skill gap was shortened.