A question about SpOps and Ordnance

As we all know ordnance is canon and possible outside of wargames, my only question is that if we can teleport a capsule to nearly ANY location on Requim, why didn’t the UNSC place a Havok Nuke or other powerful bomb in an ordnance capsule and use it to kill Jul without sending a spartan do do it, also if the Infinity has so much ordnance and weapons to spare why can’t they place live grenades in ordnance capsules and teleport/launch them into a covenant squad or wraith and blow everything up, meaning that the Infinity dosen’t need to waist spartans on dangerous operations

They may likely have wanted the body as proof or to arrest and interrogate jul mdama.

> They may likely have wanted the body as proof or to arrest and interrogate jul mdama.

True but what about if a spartan team was fighting a wraith and really needed to take out the wraith by dropping a live grenade ordnance

I am sure the teleported ordnance is only in WG. I have never seen any in SO because they are all dropped.

> > They may likely have wanted the body as proof or to arrest and interrogate jul mdama.
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> True but what about if a spartan team was fighting a wraith and really needed to take out the wraith by dropping a live grenade ordnance

Surely the spartans would have already killed some grunts and overcharged it to disable and hijack or kill the wraith.

But even then, they only teleport indoors or under roofed things in WG. Plus it is simulations so they could teleport them in.

Because season one would have only been one episode long…

> > They may likely have wanted the body as proof or to arrest and interrogate jul mdama.
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> True but what about if a spartan team was fighting a wraith and really needed to take out the wraith by dropping a live grenade ordnance

Then there wouldn’t be much of a story to tell.

The idea behind stories in games isn’t always to do what is the smartest idea. Hell, if I had control of the infinity, and a fleet, I’d jump them in, wipe out the fleet of ships, then go down into the planet and wipe out the covies.

> > > They may likely have wanted the body as proof or to arrest and interrogate jul mdama.
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> > True but what about if a spartan team was fighting a wraith and really needed to take out the wraith by dropping a live grenade ordnance
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> Surely the spartans would have already killed some grunts and overcharged it to disable and hijack or kill the wraith.
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> But even then, they only teleport indoors or under roofed things in WG. Plus it is simulations so they could teleport them in.

WEll they can still drop the ordnance, even if the spartans had a PP if ordnance nukes (thats what I’m calling it now) were actually used then a spartan team isn’t necissary as an ordnance nuke can reach almost any place in Requim and kill something

> > > > They may likely have wanted the body as proof or to arrest and interrogate jul mdama.
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> > > True but what about if a spartan team was fighting a wraith and really needed to take out the wraith by dropping a live grenade ordnance
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> > Surely the spartans would have already killed some grunts and overcharged it to disable and hijack or kill the wraith.
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> > But even then, they only teleport indoors or under roofed things in WG. Plus it is simulations so they could teleport them in.
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> WEll they can still drop the ordnance, even if the spartans had a PP if ordnance nukes (thats what I’m calling it now) were actually used then a spartan team isn’t necissary as an ordnance nuke can reach almost any place in Requim and kill something

If it’s solely killing anything. They should just have used a NOVA Bomb and destroyed the entire planet based on as you say.

Regardless, let’s just agree to disagree.

The fact of the matter is Requiem is the first fully Forerunner planet officially found by UNSC (no counting ONYX) and a nuke can destroy precious Forerunner artifacts. The UNSC isn’t only focused on blowing everything up, forerunner technology is very valuable to humanity and detonating a nuke to kill one Elite would be a waste of resources, ignorant, and a great loss of any forerunner architecture.

Also ordinance drops are like the weapon capsules in H2 and H3, they don’t detonate on impact, they just pop open and everything inside is very well contained. So an ordinance drop containing a bomb or any explosive would be to risky as I think they can only shoot ordinance drops near a Spartans online IFF tag.

Well, actually, all War Games simulations take place on the Infinity’s terrain-replicating combat deck. Therefore, it’s not actually possible to drop ordnance to other locations such as Requiem without being there to drop the capsule directly.

Most drops in Spartan Ops are done by Pelican or some of other form of ship. If you pay attention, Palmer tends to ask Dalton (who seems to be in charge of the Spartan Air Force) if there is any thing “on deck” that can be given to Crimson.

The teleported ones, aren’t real. Nothing in War Games is real. Its all holographic. I’m actually partically convinced that we’re holograms too and you’re running the War Games from a VR chair or some such thing. Would explain the blatant Spartan on Spartan violence.

Better to just send drones and stuff as air support. Dalton’s Job.

I don’t think they’d want to risk losing infinity to some sort of planetary trap or risk being trapped in requiem, so going in with the infinity might be risky.

Requiem isn’t the first forerunner planet they found. There is a bigger shield world, ONIREF Trevelyan.

When Spartans are in trouble, they just usually send ordinance to deal with it. But Spartans usually get the job done.

O_o Fake-ception!

Localised Teleporters don’t exist, only for war games. And the dropped ones require Infinity/Another ship to be directly above. War Games is just a simulation. SpOps isn’t, which is why there are only drops.

It’s a research mission, first and foremost. Picking through radioactive waste isn’t what I’d call fantastic research conditions.

> It’s a research mission, first and foremost. Picking through radioactive waste isn’t what I’d call fantastic research conditions.

Unless you specialize in that kind of research that has you picking through radioactive waste.

Because the teleportation technology is A) in experimental phases and B) only used in the holodeck on the Infinity, where the range is limited and the environment controlled. For all we know the teleporters could be an illusion brought about by the holodecks actually just creating weapons.

Take note.
In Spartan Ops, no Ordinance is teleported in. It’s all dropped.
In Wargames, in areas that are set up for Wargames, it can be dropped or telported in.

It’s likely that they can’t teleport anything to any location, but require some sort of set up at the receiving end.

> Because season one would have only been one episode long…

I could imagine the script looking something like this

Palmer: Commander we can see 1 covie carrier and atleast a dozen cruisers and friagates coming up, what are your orders?

Lasky: Teleport a Havok nuke into the bridge of each ship then continue on cource to requim.

-Infinity Arrives at Requim-

Pal: sir, it seems Jul Mdama has safely arrived at Requim and we are aware of his exact co ordinates

Las: Good drop a Havok nucke precisely 3 inches away from Jul’s face

Pal: as ordered sir

-Cut to Jul’s Base-

Jul: Despite the fact that I will probably never lead this remnant to victory and be thwarted by one very over powered fireteam with the capability of never dieing WE WILL WIN

Gek: sir the infinity has teleported a havok nuke into our base, NOOOOOOOO!

-Back At Infinity-

Las: Message to all crew, we have destroyed Jul Mdama and the rest of the covie forces so looks like we are heading home

-The End