I feel like 343 Industries should bring in a group of players dubbed as the Player Moderators.
**What you talkin’ bout Willis?**Players Mods, or P-Mods are regular players, like you and me, that have a special ability. The ability is to ban a player from match made games. The ban is not permanent, and could be set by the moderator (24 hour cap could be placed to prevent misconduct) The moderator can also issue voice bans, which prevent immature players from harassing other players.
**What if they’re abusing their powers?**Moderators are given a strict set of rules to follow, and they can face termination if they dont’t follow the rules. If they ban innocent players, they can be banned off of Halo 4 for a long, and maybe even permanent time.
How do they help?
They can remove trolls, teamkillers, team vehicle destroyers, and vulgar players from the game.
What does a moderator get in return?
Nothing, unless 343 wants to put out a special armor/emblem for them. Maybe a special “secret” board on the forum to discuss things.
How does one become a moderator?
The entire process is 343’s choice to do it. It can be where you apply, or they just see you as an active member of the community/game that offers positivity to Halo.
Why should they use P-Mods?
Another game some of you might be familiar to, is RuneScape, which has been going strong for the last decade and some more. They have had the player mod system going on with the game. It helps the community as a whole, and it stops the bad guys.
Would be good, but with the fact that people are modding Halo 4 as much as they are, people would just mod themselves the ability to ban people and ban anyone they don’t like…
I would support the idea as long as it wasn’t abused.
343 really need to warn people about certain things with messages in game though. The vast majority of people don’t use these forums and they have no idea that quitting or boosting can get you banned.
If such a system as yours is implemented they should highlight the fact to people so they know to behave!
> Would be good, but with the fact that people are modding Halo 4 as much as they are, people would just mod themselves the ability to ban people and ban anyone they don’t like…
It wouldn’t be possible to mod it, seeing that it is server-client based.
> You want “vulgar players” to be banned? Are you out of your mind? The mute button exists for a reason.
You took my words, and twisted them. I’m implying players that are being disruptive to the game, using active racism, discrimination, etc, to be Voice Banned.
So in other words, you want something similar to Battlefield 3’s player run servers whilst 343i/MS maintain overall control? Uhm, yeah that won’t work. Just from a liability issue it would be a headache for 343i/MS. Also, there is the “small” fact that most players don’t even begin to know how to accurately detect cheating etc. Then there is the the other stuff that is really just trolling… that already has stuff on xbl to report those players. It is repeated effort.
Idk if you’ve ever had to police a match making system, what I can tell you is that it is insanely time consuming, takes a lot of effort and is actually more frustrating for those doing the policing than the players. Take that with this would be a volunteer group and the abuse of power from those volunteers would happen sooner rather than later. Idk about you but, if I am working I most certainly expect to be compensated for my efforts. And policing MM is work.
> So in other words, you want something similar to Battlefield 3’s player run servers whilst 343i/MS maintain overall control? Uhm, yeah that won’t work. Just from a liability issue it would be a headache for 343i/MS. Also, there is the “small” fact that most players don’t even begin to know how to accurately detect cheating etc. Then there is the the other stuff that is really just trolling… that already has stuff on xbl to report those players. It is repeated effort.
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> Idk if you’ve ever had to police a match making system, what I can tell you is that it is insanely time consuming, takes a lot of effort and is actually more frustrating for those doing the policing than the players. Take that with this would be a volunteer group and the abuse of power from those volunteers would happen sooner rather than later. Idk about you but, if I am working I most certainly expect to be compensated for my efforts. And policing MM is work.
The P-Mods are regular players like you and I, and they play the game regularly. If they notice someone destroying teammates vehicles on purpose, using excessive racism, or vulgarity, or teamkill on purpose they can hand out the right punishment to the player.
They can abuse their power, but that can be undone, and they can face harsh punishments for it.
I don’t think it’s really a good idea. Moderation requires a pretty massive infrastructure in itself to be really effective. And I doubt Microsoft would be all that happy with players being able to ban other players on Xbox Live. In any case, it would either be a huge amount of work for the moderators, or a lot of them would be needed. And selecting people who are reliable and can deal with other people gets harder the more you need them.
Not that I have any experience with moderation, but I don’t think the system would really work well.
“FREEZE! TOSERS! GET DOWN ON THE -Yoink!-ING GROUND!”
(If you don’t get the reference, please watch Arby ‘n’ the Chief: Season 7. It’s pretty relevant to this thread.)
Edit: Season 7, not 6. The Youtube video says it’s season 6, but it’s labeled as season 7. Just start with ‘Genesis,’ then work your way down through the episodes.
> So in other words, you want something similar to Battlefield 3’s player run servers whilst 343i/MS maintain overall control? Uhm, yeah that won’t work. Just from a liability issue it would be a headache for 343i/MS. Also, there is the “small” fact that most players don’t even begin to know how to accurately detect cheating etc. Then there is the the other stuff that is really just trolling… that already has stuff on xbl to report those players. It is repeated effort.
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> Idk if you’ve ever had to police a match making system, what I can tell you is that it is insanely time consuming, takes a lot of effort and is actually more frustrating for those doing the policing than the players. Take that with this would be a volunteer group and the abuse of power from those volunteers would happen sooner rather than later. Idk about you but, if I am working I most certainly expect to be compensated for my efforts. And policing MM is work.
I’ll tell you this, the moment that EA decided to even run the server rental service for BattleField 3, a major blow was dealt to the population of people who play it. Not only did it cost a silly amount of money a month, but what would happen all too often is the player admin would just constantly switch sides and boot good players.
If a similar system happened to Halo 4. I guarantee that the “moderators” would abuse their powers. Especially since this is a team based game and bias is almost guaranteed to the side of the team the moderator is on.
> Moderation in the hands of players is never a good thing.
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> There are some evil people out there that would ban everyone they could while they can.
That’s why the players are picked by 343, who are active members of the Halo community, and wouldn’t do that.
> And how, exactly, would these player mods be able to tell the difference between actual modding vs lag?
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> And the potential for abuse is simply too large.
You didn’t understand the thread. They are to keep behavior of the players in check. It’s impossible to modify Matchmaking settings. When I use the term mod, I mean “Moderate” not "Modify.
> I don’t think it’s really a good idea. Moderation requires a pretty massive infrastructure in itself to be really effective. And I doubt Microsoft would be all that happy with players being able to ban other players on Xbox Live. In any case, it would either be a huge amount of work for the moderators, or a lot of them would be needed. And selecting people who are reliable and can deal with other people gets harder the more you need them.
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> Not that I have any experience with moderation, but I don’t think the system would really work well.
Not from Xbox Live, but from Halo 4 Matchmaking. So if you’re banned you can go on CoD matchmaking, BF3 matchmaking, etc.
> Not from Xbox Live, but from Halo 4 Matchmaking. So if you’re banned you can go on CoD matchmaking, BF3 matchmaking, etc.
So you would perm ban someone for saying one bad word, or destroying one vehicle and then they can’t play Halo anymore, I don’t like griefers anymore than the next guy but perm banning someone and then making them go play another game over destroying a vehicle is impractical.
Moderating Xbox Live is XBL’s responsibility, not the players. If you encounter players not abiding by the existing TOS as set by Xbox, feel free to report them and let the Xbox Live Policy Enforcement team review the reports and decide on the actions to be taken.
> > Not from Xbox Live, but from Halo 4 Matchmaking. So if you’re banned you can go on CoD matchmaking, BF3 matchmaking, etc.
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> So you would perm ban someone for saying one bad word, or destroying one vehicle and then they can’t play Halo anymore, I don’t like griefers anymore than the next guy but perm banning someone and then making them go play another game over destroying a vehicle is impractical.
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> 343 doing this is highly unlikely.
Which is why I stated in OP that there could be a cap on the duration of the ban.
> Moderating Xbox Live is XBL’s responsibility, not the players. If you encounter players not abiding by the existing TOS as set by Xbox, feel free to report them and let the Xbox Live Policy Enforcement team review the reports and decide on the actions to be taken.
Have you ever watched MinnesotaBurns? He, and thousands of his subscribers reported rule breakers, who modded, scammed, hacked, the game. A bunch of those people are still playing Xbox today. This is a system regulated by the players, for the players.
Still banning someone for saying something vulgar or getting your vehicle destroyed is impractical. People will be sure to abuse it. Or people will end up being accidentally banned.
