With each new Halo game, there are those who will complain about it.
The transition between H2 and H3 was the first, I hadn’t started playing Halo til H3.
But while playing it, many complained that H2’s maps were so much better.
This luckily calmed down with the map pack releases.
Now I was around for this one, everyone was SO hyped up for Reach. Not just certain aspects of it either, everything.
The weapons, armor abilities, vehicles, maps, invasion, firefight, campaign, and especially the Forge.
Once Reach was released, it was huge. Everyone loved it, it was “the best” Halo game ever.
Opinions quickly changed, within the first month, slowly, more and more began to dislike it.
Mostly the Armor Abilities, weapons, and bloom. Forge stayed popular obviously.
By now, it’s a 50/50 cut. There are those who prefer the old, familiar Halo they’ve come to love and know.
And then there are those who can look past that and simply adjust to the changes.
And then there are those who have never played another Halo besides Reach and are simply “playing a game”.
The original Halo fans pay most attention to the compelling storyline and original gaming aspects.
Refusing to accept anything that is unfamiliar to them as Halo.
Those who have adjusted for the game they love believe that Halo is Halo, no matter what form it takes.
These players just add it all up and make the best of it.
And then there are the “newbies”, those who have no concern for the story, or the quality, and have nothing to compare.
They care about nothing more than simply having fun. We were all this way at one point.
Though we all share very different views, we all have one thing in common.
We love Halo. Most of us can agree that no game is better. We can agree that we believe that the truly amazing, captivating story behind Halo is better than that of any movie, show, or book. We can agree that we could easily play Halo for years and not tire of it.
So cant we agree to disagree? Look beyond our petty differences and come together as a Halo Community?
If you feel the need to argue, dont take it out on your community.
If you feel you need to, simply do it in a constructive, knowledgeable way. Don’t just blurt out insults and opinions.
Make it a point to yourself. You. Are. Ruining. Halo.
You’re destroying the happy feelings and fellowship when you argue among yourselves.
“A house divided, cannot stand.” - Abraham Lincoln.
So basically, no one can have opinions.
As you should know, arguments are based on people having different opinions on a subject.
> So basically, no one can have opinions.
You CAN have opinions, and you may share them as well.
Just in a polite, knowledgeable manner.
It’s not a 50/50 cut if you count all of the people who would be playing Reach if it were good enough to live up to the title of a Halo game.
We all have to agree with each other? Wow. 
> We all have to agree with each other? Wow.
Once again… no.
You simply need to discuss, instead of argue.
> > We all have to agree with each other? Wow.
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> Once again… no.
> You simply need to discuss, instead of argue.
Arguing promotes passionate competitive discussion which is both valuable and entertaining.
> It’s not a 50/50 cut if you count all of the people who would be playing Reach if it were good enough to live up to the title of a Halo game.
exactly
you’re unaware that the amount of online players when Halo 3 was the primary Halo game was way beyond what Halo Reach has even at this point. many people left because Bungie released a canon game that was a parody to everything the loved.
And you can argue “story story story”, whatever happens in story doesn’t effect the arguments that are going on here. with Halo, the game is CLEARLY not just about the campaign. its Campaign 30/70 Multiplayer. I say this because they put a lot of work into campaign and it has to be polished and at the same time they can take their risks like armor abilities and no one gets mad because it doesn’t effect PVP play and balance. 70% Multiplayer because that is what keeps the game alive until the next installment. this isn’t a game that survives off single player alone. Multiplayer is what you play when you’ve finished the campaign and you most likely wont go back to the campaign unless it was really awesome and you have to beat it on another difficulty or if there is some sort of challenge to do so (also if a friend invites you).
Halo is Multiplayer.
If the multiplayer mode of a huge Online Game sucks, then no one stays and it offends many. Many people say “accept change and deal with it”; clearly they dont understand that taking a game and then turning it into an entirely different game is not what people play that game for. (for example if they took Gears of War and made it a racing game, no one would play it anymore).
Many people have left Halo because Bungie stopped caring. Their “out with a bang” was “take all the stupid (“Awesome”) ideas we can think of and throw them onto a disc” not caring about what the game used to be. wouldn’t it make sense that it drove all the fans away?
> “A house divided, cannot stand.” - Abraham Lincoln.
, That’s right. so rebuild the house strongly based on the way it used to be and the house will come together again.
Actually, if you divide a house, you get two houses.
> Actually, if you divide a house, you get two houses.
Not if you divide it by 3, =]
Social playlist
Ranked playlist
Solves a lot of problems.
“A house divided cannot stand, hence you should tear it down since it probably was crap anyhow (Reach), and make a new solid house instead, that will stand through anything” Abraham Lincoln, “if he had though about it”
People will complain about every new release, it’s natural. As time passes people will learn to like it, or move on. The major difference between Reach and past Halo games, was that Reachs core was (is) broken, the AAs, the bloom, even the game engine is struggling (frame-drops, forge limits, split-screen limits).
IF Halo 4 is good, a lot of the gamers will like it, even more then “usual” since they’re fed up with the Reach issues.
You know, the best way to unite people is to give them a common enemy…
Why was this OP written like it was lyrics to a song or a poem?
> Why was this OP written like it was lyrics to a song or a poem?
Dude, you stole my quip from another thread. Not cool.
Edit: Also my avatar.
It’s just modern disrespectful little kids who have no maturity and feel entitled to everything, these people are the ones who constantly argue about what they like, start flame wars and stat bash.
Everything, in well, life itself is divided. One person always feels a bit different about everything than the next the person.
The people who do not politely, respectfully and maturely share what they feel are the ones who will be took less seriously in the long run. It’s no big deal.
Has nothing to do with people not embracing the change. They had Halo for 8 years. Than they switch the formula. I don’t know about everyone else but I could play H2 and H3 forever. This isn’t nostalgia! Remember the saying “If its not broke, don’t fix it!” Well Halo isn’t broke, the community wasn’t crying for something new! Although I will say if Bungie cared about Reach more they could have made the new changes great but they made it Imba so the game didn’t play well. Thats why I don’t like Reach the game is blatantly imbalanced. This is coming from someone who does well nearly every game!
The solution to all multiplayer woes is simply this:
-Custom Games Browser
-More Custom Options
-Map Creator
> Has nothing to do with people not embracing the change. They had Halo for 8 years. Than they switch the formula. I don’t know about everyone else but I could play H2 and H3 forever. This isn’t nostalgia! Remember the saying “If its not broke, don’t fix it!” Well Halo isn’t broke, the community wasn’t crying for something new! Although I will say if Bungie cared about Reach more they could have made the new changes great but they made it Imba so the game didn’t play well. Thats why I don’t like Reach the game is blatantly imbalanced. This is coming from someone who does well nearly every game!
Here are some things you should consider:
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Reach was not part of the Halo trilogy, and so if its “formula” was different, then this represented an entirely new formula that bore some similarities to the old, not a “switched” formula.
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Although you may claim that something “isn’t broke”, that doesn’t mean that other players see that particular thing in the same way.
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A game cannot be blatantly imbalanced when every player is working with the same features.
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Claiming that “This is coming from someone who does well nearly every game!” doesn’t strengthen your argument; it just makes you arrogant.
I hate it when people say Reach isn’t Halo because of all the changes.
It’s Halo because Bungie made it. It’s Halo because it lies within the Halo universe. It’s Halo because it’s on the box and it’s published by Microsoft.
The problem is that the game doesn’t totally work well for a lot of fans. Doesn’t make it any less “Halo”.
(Just addressing the one point)
Smokeinya: Change is the story of Halo games. Halo 1 to Halo 2? Drastically different. Halo 2 to Halo 3? Drastically different. Halo 3 to Reach? Drastically different.
You said you could play H2 and H3 forever, well H2 and H3 are drastically different games. Different weapons, different maps, different health mechanics, hitscan vs bullet travel, equipment, etc…I guess to you H2 nothing was broke, but H3 was different, and you still liked it.
The Halo games are all about diversity between the games, my friend.
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