> A game that will incorporate the things we learned from “Halo 4” about technology, aesthetics, performance and scale – and perhaps more importantly, <mark>understanding and embracing a community of gamers who love what lies at the heart of this game,</mark> and the limitless potential of the “Halo” universe.
There has been quite a lot of discussion today about the image. Who is the “new” Spartan, what this means for competitive play, and what the title means for everything else. I was actually more interested in the actual article. I think the most important part is highlighted in the above quote.
As well as this:
> <mark>Certainly there are some core elements carried over from prior games,</mark> but we’ve invested a huge effort in retooling our tech to take full advantage of the Xbox One’s hardware and ecosystem to create worlds and experiences worthy of next-gen.
In my view this is further proof that they ARE paying attention to feedback. They WILL going back to incorporating core elements that the community has been asking for. Maybe this Community Letter Given to 343i was given some real notice.
Anyone else excited by the possibilities?! I know it is early, and everything is open for interpretation. I just love the debate too.
Since 343 took over for Bungie and released the Defiant map pack that followed the novel Halo:The Fall of Reach I have complete faith that they will bring Halo back to the “Golden Age” of First Person Shooters. I can’t wait for Halo 5 cause i know 343 will knock it out of the park and bring Halo back!
> Since 343 took over for Bungie and released the Defiant map pack that followed the novel Halo:The Fall of Reach I have complete faith that they will bring Halo back to the “Golden Age” of First Person Shooters. I can’t wait for Halo 5 cause i know 343 will knock it out of the park and bring Halo back!
I am not quite sure as all that, but I am as hopeful. There have been some things done that have caused me question their discussions. In fact I still question them un terms of what is going on with Halo 4, but these statements by Bonnie made me so much more excited then the poster art didm
I’m not one to usually be a buzz kill, but to downsize the scale of disappointment, i think people should at least ponder the fact that maybe Halo 5 will play like Halo 4? I just can’t help but consider the amount of rage that will explode on these forums if the game doesn’t play according to expectations or even exceed it…0.0
Oh btw, it is Bonnie’s job to tell the fans what they want to hear. Its the team’s job as a whole to follow through, though. Lets see…
> What about this?
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> Innovation has always been part of the Halo game pillars. That needs to continue. - 343 Industries
I am not trying to disregard that in the least. In fact in the first quote I kept the part about, “…create worlds and experiences worthy of the next gen.” They are building a whole new engine of course they are going to want to keep innovating.
I am just happy with the possibility that they are taking feedback into consideration.
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Ummm what?
> I’m not one to usually be a buzz kill, but to downsize the scale of disappointment, i think people should at least ponder the fact that maybe Halo 5 will play like Halo 4? I just can’t help but consider the amount of rage that will explode on these forums if the game doesn’t play according to expectations or even exceed it…0.0
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> Oh btw, it is Bonnie’s job to tell the fans what they want to hear. Its the team’s job as a whole to follow through, though. Lets see…
I highly doubt it is going to be predominantly like Halo 4. Maybe some aspects of it but nothing major.
I also doubt she is going to say just what she thinks we want to hear.
Why can’t you have both? It’s not like buying one will disqualify you from ever having the other as well. Even if money’s an issue, it boils down to “Which should I get first?”
Seriously, it’s just silly. I’ve had an Xbox and a PS2 side by side since I had games I loved from both consoles. Had a SNES and a Sega side by side in days past, and I’ll have a PS4 and an Xbox One eventually as well.
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I’ll be getting the Xbox One first though. My priorities lie with Halo after all heh
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> Why can’t you have both? It’s not like buying one will disqualify you from ever having the other as well. Even if money’s an issue, it boils down to “Which should I get first?”
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> Seriously, it’s just silly. I’ve had an Xbox and a PS2 side by side since I had games I loved from both consoles. Had a SNES and a Sega side by side in days past, and I’ll have a PS4 and an Xbox One eventually as well.
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> I’ll be getting the Xbox One first though. My priorities lie with Halo after all heh
Seriously? No thoughts on the actual topic? Just a response to a troll post?
> > <mark>Certainly there are some core elements carried over from prior games,</mark> but we’ve invested a huge effort in retooling our tech to take full advantage of the Xbox One’s hardware and ecosystem to create worlds and experiences worthy of next-gen.
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> In my view this is further proof that they ARE paying attention to feedback. They WILL going back to incorporating core elements that the community has been asking for. Maybe this Community Letter Given to 343i was given some real notice.
“Core elements” could be as simple as a reticle on screen (as opposed to ADS), jump height, and control scheme. It’s way too vague to conclude she was talking about default multiplayer gametype settings.
> > > <mark>Certainly there are some core elements carried over from prior games,</mark> but we’ve invested a huge effort in retooling our tech to take full advantage of the Xbox One’s hardware and ecosystem to create worlds and experiences worthy of next-gen.
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> > In my view this is further proof that they ARE paying attention to feedback. They WILL going back to incorporating core elements that the community has been asking for. Maybe this Community Letter Given to 343i was given some real notice.
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> “Core elements” could be as simple as a reticle on screen (as opposed to ADS), jump height, and control scheme. It’s way too vague to conclude she was talking about default multiplayer gametype settings.
Vague maybe, but no unheard of. I think it is a positive sign toward the latter.
I doubt it is a reference to do with something as basic as a reference to no ADS. Well, at least I can hope.
They sure did passive-aggressively put Halo in quotes a lot (a “Halo” game). I honestly don’t blame them, I’d get fed up too with the community’s nonsense.
Personally I believe they won’t be ignorant enough to repeat the things EVERYONE hated about Halo 4, but I doubt we will be getting a classic title either. Which isn’t inherently bad.
> I also doubt she is going to say just what she thinks we want to hear.
I don’t. Its her job, she knows what to say, and she knows what will make a crowd hyped. What i’m saying is, i hope this isn’t just for -Yoink- and giggles and that they mean business. Because lets not forget that they pulled the same card with halo 4.
I find it really difficult to take these kinds of articles at face value. The text is thick with PR talk. Every sentence is more or less carefully crafted to appeal to as many people as possible. Regardless of what they were doing with the game, the bit about “core elements” would still be there to appeal to the worried players. Same applies to understanding and embracing the community. The sentence is there, and I do believe they truly care about us, but even if they didn’t, it would still be there because they couldn’t really just say “screw you” either.
I will have to see more than just words. I hope they truly mean everything she wrote, but the problem with PR talk is that it’s really hard to tell if it’s genuine or not.
> They sure did passive-aggressively put Halo in quotes a lot (a “Halo” game).
I believe that’s just a formal way of writing the name of the game, they did the same with Halo 5: Guardians and Halo 4. Putting quotes around the name is just an alternative to writing it in italics, which is just a way of telling the reader “this is the name of some book/film/game/etc.”, Bonnie Ross just seems to prefer the former.
> “Well, it plays like Halo,” he quipped. However, he said it’s important to take risks and evolve the feel of gameplay. He said it’s all about the question of balance and maintaining the core feel of Halo while also adding in new weapons and abilities. The team also wants to provide new experiences that players haven’t had before. He said that it’s important to give players options to solve problems in a variety of ways.
There are similarities here, and the PR people are going to know what we want to hear. I also think that with how things went with Halo 4 they will be taking a little step back, and incorporating more “core Halo” with Halo 5.
I think there is a little more reference in the Josh Holmes quote to new rather than old. Bonnie Ross’s quote was a little more balanced of old and new.
> <mark>Certainly there are some core elements carried over from prior games,</mark> but we’ve invested a huge effort in retooling our tech to take full advantage of the Xbox One’s hardware and ecosystem to create worlds and experiences worthy of next-gen.
To me it sounds more like they are planning to give Halo (the game as a whole) a significant overhaul while considering some of the defining core elements.
So, I think it is likely that we will see redefined/improved core elements, actual progress, instead of simply reverting back to them.
> > <mark>Certainly there are some core elements carried over from prior games,</mark> but we’ve invested a huge effort in retooling our tech to take full advantage of the Xbox One’s hardware and ecosystem to create worlds and experiences worthy of next-gen.
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> To me it sounds more like they are planning to give Halo (the game as a whole) a significant overhaul while considering some of the defining core elements.
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> So, I think it is likely that we will see redefined/improved core elements, actual progress, instead of simply reverting back to them.
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> Nothing what sounds bad to me though.
That is a very good point. I know I have said many times on these forums that 343i needs to take a step back before going too far forward, and many might think that sounds like I am asking for a rehash of the Halos of old. That is not quite what I am hoping for. I, too, want to see something new, but a new twist on the old.
I am very excited about what both Bonnie Ross and Frankie had to say. In fact one thing here:
> …a new architecture, new graphics hardware and bluntly some new ways to think about gaming, period.
New ways to think about gaming! That statement has actually had my wheels turning more than the core elements statements. What the heck is new ways to think about gaming going to look like?!