A defense for the Halo TV Show

I liked it when I watched it. Gave it some time and rewatched it. I still like it.
No spoiler tags, but I do say all this stuff as if you’ve seen the episode. So I’m just leaving this on a “if you know, you know” basis. I more-so go into outside information than the episode itself.

I don’t understand most of the criticism on bad writing. Nothing so far is outright horrible.
I see most of the complaints the equivalent of someone reading the first chapter of Fall of Reach and going “Where’s the pillar of autumn, where’s the Halo, where’s Cortana, where’s the Flood, this isn’t Halo!” then dropping it. Wait until the season is over.

UNSC vs Innie was never the main idea behind Halo, it was just something filled in for background detail in manuals and the books. So including little bits of that in the human-covenant war is fine. It acts as a foil to the otherwise authoritarian UNSC. We never saw much of that in the games, but in the books we saw how evil ONI and the UNSC was. This first episode was trying to establish alot to make room for the plot.

Modern weapons have existed in Halo before. There is a desert eagle in Shadows of Reach, a MP40 in one comic. Also this is ignoring that, yes, replica weapons exist. Also Halo’s weapons aren’t that advanced. They aren’t mini-railguns like in Mass Effect or use energy like the Covenant. They still use bullets like everything else human. Just a different caliber. Sorry to go over current events, but in Ukraine we are seeing things like Mosin Nagants going up against AKM’s. We are literally seeing this exact scenario play out in real life, but call out the show for doing the same thing just 500 years in the future. (Which would be a case if they were using sci-fi weapons not bullets) MAC cannons, gauss guns, rail guns, is being developed right now, not 400-500 years in the future. Its old tech by then!

Spartans not knowing where they come from is a good way to show the audience what they are without having to go through the whole bootcamp stuff again. That makes sense for the books, when you have chapter after chapter and hour after hour to establish that. At this point, boot camp montages are more cliché than secret-backstory. This way it helps the show, and keeps both fans like me, and new ones guessing. It also, again, shows how evil the UNSC is! And so far, how it is shown, is used more as a reality check for Chief rather than “I need to go find who I am!” We have to wait for more episodes, but I feel their direction is “we need to make sure this doesn’t happen again.”

People seem to forget that Chief didn’t always follow orders by the letter. Not much is shown in the games, so again, back to the books. The theme of Halsey and Chief’s character arc from Fall of Reach and up through Ghosts of Onyx is that the “We have to win the war at all costs” excuse starts losing its luster after too many people die to “win” the war. If you keep sacrificing people for the “greater good” Who will be left to save? In First Strike (between Halo 1 and 2), Chief was given two data shards by Halsey on the Flood. Specifically, on Sergeant Johnson’s resistance to the flood. One shard didn’t include Johnson’s info, the other did. If Chief gave the UNSC on earth the shard with Johnson’s info, then it is possible that they would have dissected him, and killed him to learn how to gain a resistance to flood and help possibly though not confirmed “everyone” in the long run. But if he did that, who would be left to save? If you spend 25 years sacrificing the few to save the many, eventually the many become the few, and then no one is left to save. They are trying to have Chief learn this lesson through his backstory in the show, rather than having to wait to get there because the context shifted.

Speaking of Sergeant Johnson, race. Yeah Keyes was swapped, but unlike Johnson, race was never important to Keyes as a character. In fact, I’ll argue Keyes was never much of a character. In Halo CE he was an exposition dump with some small quips. As far as the games are concerned, the only depth he had was added retroactively by 343 in Halo CE:A. Specifically the Flood terminal. All he did in Halo CE (and as far as I can see in Halo: The Flood) was:

  1. Tell the Chief how bad the ship is and Cortana needs to stay away from the covenant.
  2. Explain what Halo is.
  3. Ignore all warning signs and release the flood.
  4. Become a mushroom and die.
    4.5. Later turn out he resisted the mushroom for a long time and has strong will.
  5. Reach cameo.

So again, I’ll fall back onto the books. Fall of Reach. Keyes was complicit in the creation of the Spartans. He was chosen because, as said by Halsey “He can keep a secret.” And that’s exactly who we see in the show. He would only take a moral highground much later in his military career. Which we will not see in the show because the last thing we need is to jumble 5 different timeperiods at once. He will have to have this character arc, you know, as the show progresses.. Notice how, none of this has to do with race? Lets take Sergeant Johnson, who is based off of a character in Aliens and many other black 80’s and 90’s action stars. Who has an exaggerated personality based off of them to be an inspiring comic relief. If they replaced Johnson with someone of any other race, that is political because it is integral to the character. This is expanded in Contact Harvest where we learn he is from Chicago. We now have a direct cultural link between the real world and Johnson. If Keyes or another character made some point on their race and how it is somehow important, then yes I would say it is political. So far, that isn’t the case. If it comes up later, then we know exactly what it is. Same with Parengosky. Nothing is lost in the change, nor is much gained. You want bad racial politics, go watch the end speech of Falcon and Winter soldier, where he talks down to everyone about inequality when he was being an idiot the whole show. That is bad. In this first episode, it simply does not exist.

Also, on the Covenant. They are as ruthless and genocidal as they should be! There is one sticking point, but did we forget that in the games Professor Anders was captured to access forerunner artifacts? Okay, fine that wasn’t done by Bungie. Fair. Halo 3! The prophet of truth uses Johnson and Miranda Keyes to start the Ark!!! Even though that flies in the face of the Covenant ideology that the prophets themselves since Contact Harvest know are lies! I don’t like what the show did either, but saying it isn’t “lore accurate” isn’t true! We’re just seeing this case in a new context! As for the elites, I don’t like the armor. The model is based off of Halo 2 Anniversary, but still have the bulk of Halo 4/5. If we get brutes, they better be freaking jacked compared to these guys.

I’m not saying this first episode is perfect there is plenty to be worried about, like a certain “covenant” character can be easy to mess up. And giving one thing away in the first episode isn’t good. Also the Animations look bad. However, most of the negative criticism on the writing is blown so out of proportion for a first episode. We don’t have all the info yet. And even if it was “canon” why would you want everything to tie into the books, games, and shows?
Hell, does no one remember how we hated Halo 5 for making us go do homework? You know having to read so many books and comics to introduce characters because the game didn’t do that for us? The show is making an excuse to avoid that, but now so many people are hating that its trying to avoid that! WTF do you all want?!

Also I keep seeing “If you read the books and played the games, this is horrible”. As someone who does both, who is currently reading Halo Glasslands BTW, no. Okay, maybe Parengosky isn’t as scary in the show as she should be. Again, so far not perfect. The show, at least in this first episode, is trying to establish everything in regard to tones and themes instead of being a word-for-word regurgitation of the lore. That kind of expectation is like you’re a history major, walking into the movie 1917, saving private ryan, the King’s Man, etc, expecting it to be a documentary and leaving being angry that it wasn’t a documentary, but instead you watched a movie. Yeah, you expectations were in the wrong place.
The goal of this show is to carry across the same feeling while keeping it interesting for new people, and without having to rely on all the baggage old fans are used to. The last thing we need is 4 retellings of Halo CE’s story. We already have 3 retellings (Arguably 4, CE, The Flood novel, CE:A, and Fireteam Raven) Adding another is just frustrating.
This show is something I can share with my parents, share with friends, and not have to answer every little lore question the show/game just expects you to know. Star Wars is falling into that trap. My parents have to pause every time a new character pops up in Mando or Boba Fett because they expect the audience watched all the cartoons and read the books and comics. Just because I have doesn’t mean I want to be “rewarded” for it if it means confusing everyone else. I hate this so much and I’m glad this show has built in on a fundamental level a way to avoid this. Themeatically, tonally, emotionally, everything fits, and I don’t have to go “Um Actually” Every freaking time they don’t do something right. Maybe some of you guys are looking for that, but I am sick of it!

I do enough of this deep-lore connecting stuff while getting my English degree. As much as I love it, and love ranting like this, I don’t like bringing this attitude into my chill and relax time! When I play Halo, I don’t want to worry about how this affects the books or the lore. I’m playing to shoot aliens. Everything else is extra fluff. Like it or not they are secondary in importance. This show is parallel to the games, but are not meant to replace them.

As my girlfriend said while watching “Its like being introduced to Halo for the first time again” And that is the best praise anyone can give this first episode. If you are looking for a straight retelling, go replay Halo CE. Or read Halo: The Flood, or go find a Halo: Fireteam Raven cabinet. All of that still exists. The books are just fine doing their thing, the game… okay, Infinite isn’t doing so hot with multiplayer. This show isn’t trying to take anything away. But you need to let this series grow and figure itself out its rare when a first season nails the landing. Especially when trying to convey the feelings of not just one medium, but many, into a new form that previously was much worse than this.

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this is gonna go the way of star wars and doctor who. Bonnie Ross just came out and said fans are holding the universe back.

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My problem with the show so far isn’t the writing (the writing is okay for the first episode) my problem is the cgi/vfx. You guys know that “$90 million budget” that everyone keeps throwing around? Well according to several sites (The Guardian, Screenrant, PC Gamer, The Slant, etc, etc) it was actually much much closer to $200 million… $200 million? For vfx that looks like someone fresh out of art school made them?

For perspective of how massive that is: Star Wars Rogue One was also $200 million dollars… and that’s with advertising costs included. I genuinely want to know wtf happened to their budget, because if what aaalll of these sites are saying is true and they really did have almost $200 mill in their budget then that’s a shame for the vfx team.

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Yeah, it does look bad. Then again the show was in development hell since before Halo 5 was out. I imagine most of the budge was soaked up by false starts then having to go back and redo it all.

Yeah, I hate when the fans of the franchise I just causally picked up and tore to pieces are holding my visions of THEIR fun back… Tell her to get bent.

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For having a large budget, its crap CGI. Just look at Chief jumping. The writing is concerning too but it is the first episode and, therefore, may be because they need a way to set up the series. Plus, i heard that the creators of the series werent even familiar with the games. How the heck can u create a series based on a game and NOT know the games?

As for Bonnie saying the fans are holding the Universe back, i would partly agree with that. Especially since ive been around from the beginning. And if me not supporting Halo Infinite by playing and/or paying for cosmetics and voicing my concerns with the universe in general is holding it back, then i sure am holding it back because of how bad its been going.

Im holding out hope for season 2 of Halo Infinite that issues will get resolved just like im hoping episode 2 moving forword will improve. But 343 has been letting fans down more and more since they took over. If they would listen to the fans more, i really believe things would improve. And to their credit, they have to a small extent. But more listening is needed on their part.

To quote the author on the website listed below, i believe this basically sums up Halo Infinite and probably the Halo show.

" Halo Infinite still has potential, but if 343 Industries and Microsoft are too slow to turn it around, there may not be anyone left to enjoy the latest Halo game." - Liam Ferguson

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gamerant.com/halo-infinite-live-service-struggles-content-bugs-season-1-potential/amp/

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Chief’s jumping looked weird, but you’re basically putting a mythical Olympian in a 1 ton walking tank. So on that level, I can imagine why it looks awkward. But… yeah I did also say that the CGI (I said animations) isn’t good. It really is bad in alot of cases. There isn’t much excuse for it.
And yeah I partly agree with the Bonnie Ross sentiment too. Everyone is quick to turn into an armchair developer and say what Halo is, but just don’t know what we wanted. You can’t ask for things to stay the same and expect new things. Heck people still argue over BR vs AR starts when MCC still exists.
At the same time, 343 does need to listen to fans about the solid stuff we do want, cross-core, more game modes, more maps,. keeping content flowing, etc. And if they can’t deliver the bare basics of a live service in their live service game, and blame the fans for asking too much, that is their own incompetence.

My GF and I want to play Infinite’s campaign together for the first time, so we’ve been spoiler dodging until co-op is out. So this show is basically acting as our Halo fix until we can get around to Infinite. We’re already burnt out on the multiplayer. But if this show fails, and if Infinite can’t pick itself up, then its over. I don’t think Halo can survive. It almost makes me wish that Infinite released worse so it could be a quick death, instead of this slow suffering through life support. I want Halo Infinite to be good and hopefully Season 2 helps, but I have large doubts since co-op was delayed even further back.

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Halo has a vast core canon and backstory so obviously unless they wanted to spend time picking through the lore and extended fiction (that the games don’t even necessarily respect) and provide Peter Jackson levels of detail, then there was bound to be holes. I was ok with alternate timeline or history for the show as there is really a lot of stuff going on in the series to date however there really is just too much wrong or out of place for this show to just write it off as alternative timeline or whatever.

I’m afraid also that this show will allow 343 to just make whatever and say oh well this (insert game or book title here) is Silver canon.

We’ll be left with the same bs that has plagued the Star Wars fandom since episode 7. With older stories falling into “legends” and newer stuff being actual canon lore in favor of not spending time respecting what came before for a quick cash in.

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Paramount and 343 are treating Halo like a star wars spinoff so they kinda don’t care about how they come off.

They are saying Miranda is Halsey’s daughter, that isn’t “good” writing. It’s garbage.

And the difference between those characters being used to activate Covenant technology and what is currently being portrayed is that those other characters were forced to do it against their will. This chick in the show appears to have some importance, which wouldn’t be necessary if you could simply snatch any old human off any populated world as necessary and discard.

I am afraid the writing be bad because it forces it self in corner with very little room.

I think that humans don’t hurt covent bad and ak47 fires 7.62 x 39 mm vs 7.62x51mm AR

So Ar hits 1000 pounds harder but I still don’t think this would be good reason why ak does no damage while ar eats it.

Plus minion canon did no damage when rebels fired it but master chief destroys covent. Poor writing

Plus’s they should never go in first person that was bad.

Yeah, the gun damage was dumb, but I’m glad the Covenant is shown as being scary, so I allowed it. People keep talking about Star Wars, but the thing I hate about Star Wars right now is that the Empire isn’t scary. The covenant are and I literally thought “The empire needs to be treated like this.” Doesn’t make much sense, but if it makes a villain that is actually something to be scared of/hate then I’m for it.
Same with the mini-gun except to show Spartans as mythical figures. It draws a definitive line on what the Spartans are, and what the Covenant are without having a exposition dump.
I’m not excusing it because yes it is bad they could have done so much better. Easily make the humans too scared to aim straight or show some shields bursting to soften them up. I never said the episode is perfect. I don’t consider that writing because it isn’t the plot or dialogue itself, that is action choreography team, animation/CGI people, and the director who messed up consistency.
As for first person, I like those parts. So, that’s just opinion.
The show, like Infinite, has potential. Their teams just need to make sure they keep it up.

Im sorry, but is it just me or does anyone else find it ridiculous that they were running around with AK’s in this series? Are we really suppose to belive that they are still around and unchanged roughly 1500 yrs from now? Sorry, ik this doesnt really partain to this post but if this doesnt show sloppy writing, well then, i guess nothing will. We travel space and populate X amount of other worlds and yet we still use ancient technology (in the show based on the shows year). Come on 343, Paramount, and Microsoft. I mean seriously WTF?!?!

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Its not just you, but you should go back and read. I did address this too. It isn’t new for Halo. And even then the AR uses 7.62NATO, which is a real round that is still used today. Again, if they were using something like Mass Effect weapons where they are all basically railguns, I can see this argument holding water.
A backwater isolated planet is using a tried, tested, simple, loose tolerance rifle using rounds that are as likely to exist as the fictional AR’s real rounds. Again, real example, Ukraine right now is using out of date mosin nagants. And even some older stuff too. You might as well get mad that the warthog doesn’t hover and the scorpion still uses treads. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Guns also last a long time, so long as the mechanism functions and the metal is intact, then the gun can keep running.
Granted, I will admit it is lazy their prop coordinator didn’t just make innsurecctionist/outer colony weapons. The books did show that they used out of date weapons, but were still in the same family as the UNSC stuff. But the guns, I can see. That makes sense to me. It is lazy prop design. Not bad writing. Writing is the plot, characters, and dialogue.
Now the 2001 Chevy Tahoe and all the innie vehicles, those are dumb. Guns and bullets are easier to manufacture and carry off-planet (or more likley, made on-planet) than vehicles. Not to mention most cars can’t function after 20 years from general wear and tear, and we expect them to function 500 years in the future on a planet that sandy? Now that is bad set design.

Edit: I also forgot they made the DMR was full auto. I heard that it is capable of it. But still. Ew.

Miranda being Halseys daughter is one thing that we can’t criticise because thats 100% canon and has been since the characters were written.

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Yup. As far as I know it was official lore since Halo Glasslands. Sadly, this is something that was never explored much so I’m glad we can finally see it.

Bottom line, it’s a different Halo Universe with a clearly different cast of characters who happen to share names with the ones we know and love from the games.

I’m not sure I’ll end up liking what 343i’s doing with this show (I have tons of doubts that I will), but I won’t hold it against them that it’s not a 1:1 to the game universe, as they’ve been incredibly transparent about that for many months, now.

I’d honestly rather they take a crack at an alternative storyline than do what most game adaptations do by trying to make something so faithful to the source material at the expense of having it work as an adapted piece of media.

The games universe will likely always be my preference, but if the show can provide a cast of characters that are consistent with themselves (in the show, not the games), and an intriguing story, good action, etc., then I’ll be happy with it.

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Why most games failed at adapting is lore of game is weak.

Halo doesn’t suffer from that it has huge lore and rich story. This movie lacks good director. They need go to animated department see what moves look real and which ones don’t.

So give limitations like him jumping over elite vs roll be better and then stepping on to pushing his weight crush.

Ask me why grab a pole to impale elite vs grabbing a sword?

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I wasn’t aware it was in the books. Frankly, IMO most of the books are trash anyway.

This guy gets it. Make trash content and then blame the fans, literally clown world / 1984.