A consultant would offer this agenda for 343i

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Ive browsed/interacted on this forum several times over the past few months. And if any 343 employee has too, which they MUST have, they wouldve reached these obv conclusions.

-A huge # of ppl hate or have issues with custom games. From what I’ve gathered they are only asking for rather simplistic modifications. So, do it for them.

-Ppl are unhappy with the playlists. Ask the community what playlist they want, via poll, then provide it.

-Seems to be a lot of chiming about the DMR being overpowered. This one ive noticed first hand, couldnt agree more. Survey the community about it, then act accordigly.

-Huge competitive community beyond angry about no ranking system. Futhermore, the waypoint only CSR in April will only infuriate them even more. Read what they want, this is not it. Youre making the problem worse, fix it properly.

-Nobody wanted team throwdown. From what ive gathered a heavy rather obv majority wants ranked vs social playlists. Why not try to accommodate them. This solution doesnt offend anyone.

All Im getting at is, Im joe blow, a fan and player of Halo for sometime. If I were a 343i employee or team lead, I cant understand how these simple 5 known issues I just mentioned above, arent priority number 1 and furthermore aren’t easily remedied. Talk to your fans, find a solution, execute.

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Well said OP!

I do think the DMR does need to get rid of its aim assists and bullet magnetism. Maybe even Rate of afire even.

Or buff the BR by having it 4sK.

Playlists defiantly needs a social and ranked playlists with the ranked having in game CSR.

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If a video game consultant could be paid to fix this game I’d be filthy rich if they hired me. I can point out everything that is wrong with the game and how they can please the most people by keeping what people currently like in one playlist and adding what most people want to another.

It’s not hard, the problem is 343 already has our money.

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They don’t have my H5 or H6 money yet! :wink:

I would easily be able to point out the stuff that’s wrong…

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> If a video game consultant could be paid to fix this game I’d be filthy rich if they hired me. I can point out everything that is wrong with the game and how they can please the most people by keeping what people currently like in one playlist and adding what most people want to another.
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> It’s not hard, the problem is 343 already has our money.

True and I believe they don’t follow us on the forums very much. I’ve been on the forums since Call of Duty: Halo came out oops I mean HALO came out.

I could easily fix all the issues of Halo with seeig all the mistakes being made. I should be employed to help them.

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> Well said OP!
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> I do think the DMR does need to get rid of its aim assists and bullet magnetism. Maybe even Rate of afire even.
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> Or buff the BR by having it 4sK.
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> Playlists defiantly needs a social and ranked playlists with the ranked having in game CSR.

It DEFIANTLY needs it?! So it needs it so much that it reaches a level that can only be described as heroic and SUPER EPIC!!! Jesus… And here I was thinking that English classes at school taught us how to spell. Like seriously, I’ve seen so many people on this forum write it like that. Is this forum made of like 12 year olds?! Anyway, rant over. Now onto your agend OP.

They do ask people what playlists they want. That’s why Team Doubles came and Team Throwdown, which answers another one of your points. People DID ask for Team Throwdown. People asked for a COMPETITIVE PLAYLIST!!! They wanted to experience a competitive environment within Halo 4 and that’s what Team Throwdown is. Even when it was announced, everyone was happy and excited.

They’ve already explained why a ranking system isn’t being displayed in game. Because it promotes boosting and cheating. Argue about it all you want, but compare Halo 2 and Halo 3 to Halo Reach and Halo 4. The boosters and cheaters have lowered quite a lot (same with derankers, that don’t exist anymore AND the Halo black market is not completely un-existent).

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@Natetendo83 Well said. But from that business perspective, they must realize that future sales are in serious jeopardy at this point. Nothing worse than dis-pleasing all their now formerly loyally fanbase. No matter how dramatic the new advertising scheme for the next next installment, it will be over shadowed by the negative word of mouth from that former fanbase.

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@Seano399. Firstly the cheaters/boosters argument towards CSR doesnt hold any weight, ive discussed previously at length about this in many other threads. Besides if that is even a small issue, it can be easily be negated by resetting ranks on a seasonal basis if need be.

Have u seen the population for doubles or throwdown? theyre atrocious. I cant speak for doubles first hand bc I dont play it. But for throwdown, yes the community wanted a ‘competitive’ playlist, but not so much like this. They want a ranked competitive playlist, like the old days, cant blame them. Instead we got throwdown which has quitter after quitter ruin every single game, bc theyre no incentive not to quit. Again ranked AND social playlists hurts no one, appeases everyone. A far more logical, democratic response, then the failed team throwdown they provided us.

Again, we can debate, but the best solution is poll the community, view the results, act accordingly. Nobody ever thinks they are in the minority on issues, but a poll is a pretty decent way to make things clearer for everyone involved.

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> theyre no incentive not to quit.

There is a quit ban, but 343 never publicly acknowledged it being a feature so no one knows it’s a deterrent lol.

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> @Seano399. Firstly the cheaters/boosters argument towards CSR doesnt hold any weight, ive discussed previously at length about this in many other threads. Besides if that is even a small issue, it can be easily be negated by resetting ranks on a seasonal basis if need be.

How do you feel about Halo Reach’s Arena?

> Have u seen the population for doubles or throwdown? theyre atrocious. I cant speak for doubles first hand bc I dont play it. But for throwdown, yes the community wanted a ‘competitive’ playlist, but not so much like this. They want a ranked competitive playlist, like the old days, cant blame them. Instead we got throwdown which has quitter after quitter ruin every single game, bc theyre no incentive not to quit. Again ranked AND social playlists hurts no one, appeases everyone. A far more logical, democratic response, then the failed team throwdown they provided us.

Compared to Reach’s doubles and super slayer playlists, I am not in the surprised boat. I also don’t hate on those that like those very small population playlists just because they don’t play the popular playlists.

> Again, we can debate, but the best solution is poll the community, view the results, act accordingly. Nobody ever thinks they are in the minority on issues, but a poll is a pretty decent way to make things clearer for everyone involved.

Polling in the community happens every time you choose a gamemode, make a loadout, choose your playlists, vote on your map and then choose the loadout(s) during that match. Every single person in the online community is polled whenever they go online. Let me repeat that;
<mark>Every single Halo community player is polled the moment they go online.</mark>
We are even polled to find out what specifically we like in the campaign, Forge and theatre uses.

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Im Ginger Bush;2345798 wrote:
@Seano399. Firstly the cheaters/boosters argument towards CSR doesnt hold any weight, ive discussed previously at length about this in many other threads. Besides if that is even a small issue, it can be easily be negated by resetting ranks on a seasonal basis if need be.

How do you feel about Halo Reach’s Arena?

Personally, I had mixed feelings about Reach’s Arena. I still REALLY wanted an oldschool rank, but I wasn’t entirely upset with the divisions and resetting seasons setup. My one unshakeable criticism and the one true factor I believe for its lack of overall popularity was how you werent able to “comfortably” view your standing. At first it was awful, play, play, play in your division, for what? Then at least later they let you know, for example, youre in the 35% of the silver division. But overall I found that whole experience rather user-unfriendly.

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Have u seen the population for doubles or throwdown? theyre atrocious. I cant speak for doubles first hand bc I dont play it. But for throwdown, yes the community wanted a ‘competitive’ playlist, but not so much like this. They want a ranked competitive playlist, like the old days, cant blame them. Instead we got throwdown which has quitter after quitter ruin every single game, bc theyre no incentive not to quit. Again ranked AND social playlists hurts no one, appeases everyone. A far more logical, democratic response, then the failed team throwdown they provided us.

Compared to Reach’s doubles and super slayer playlists, I am not in the surprised boat. I also don’t hate on those that like those very small population playlists just because they don’t play the popular playlists.

Sorry Im not trying to hate on those kind of playlists, Im just disappointed they arent as good as they could/should be.

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Again, we can debate, but the best solution is poll the community, view the results, act accordingly. Nobody ever thinks they are in the minority on issues, but a poll is a pretty decent way to make things clearer for everyone involved.

Polling in the community happens every time you choose a gamemode, make a loadout, choose your playlists, vote on your map and then choose the loadout(s) during that match. Every single person in the online community is polled whenever they go online. Let me repeat that;
Every single Halo community player is polled the moment they go online.
We are even polled to find out what specifically we like in the campaign, Forge and theatre uses.

I understand that, but again they are only “polling” as you put it, with topics/issues that are not the crux of the issue. We are only able to vote on the options they provide us, with loadouts, playlists, maps. Why not poll the community ONLINE/IN GAME about rank, weapon balancing, customs games. THESE are the important issues. This is essentially where the majority of backlash originates from. Im just dying to know where they have attained their research for the decisions they make, bc it simply doesnt seem to add up. Its horribly frustrating to watch decision after decision made by this company always seem to be the wrong one. I think we can ALL agree when decisions are made at least that create a modest maybe even slight improvement population wise (long standing) can be heralded as a wise decision. Wouldnt u agree? Upsetting part is, those decisions are right in front of them…

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Someone brought up an interesting point the other day:
The “more classic feeling” playlist promised to us pre-launch turned out to be “pro” which we all know is similar to classic but still completely different. No motion sensor being the biggest difference (I prefer classic and dislike pro because I’ve grown too dependent on the motion sensor because I’ve spent so much time using them in the original 3 games; I know I’m not the only one).
The person I’m talking about (can’t remember their user name) speculated that a pro playlist was included instead of classic because if the classic playlist eventually became more populated than infinity it would make 343 look bad because all along most people were just wanting Halo 4 to be truer to it’s roots.

Interesting theory.

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> <mark>Every single Halo community player is polled the moment they go online.</mark>
> We are even polled to find out what specifically we like in the campaign, Forge and theatre uses.

Yeah, except we’re not. If this is true, and I hope it’s not (although it would explain 343’s lack of competence) then it’s definitely not the correct way to go about it.

I would love to play doubles. It has great gametypes. It’s more true to real Halo gameplay that many of us know and love. That doesn’t mean I play it though. Sadly, because of H4’s MM system, playing doubles is simply aggravating. That doesn’t mean I don’t like what that playlist represents.

So what? Does that mean me, and players like me are being polled incorrectly? I play Big team infinity slayer since it’s easier to get perfections. Does that mean I like the playlist? No.

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For anyone in this thread who hasn’t noticed already, take this thread (listed at the bottom of my post) into some serious consideration. This survey posted by the OP in this thread is REALLY concise and beneficial to our cause of making our voices heard by 343. It addresses many concerns about the game, including the request for a visible in-game ranking system, as well as the overall opinion of current custom game and playlist options. Please look into this! I feel like this thread would make a huge impact on this survey and would actually give 343 a reason to start listening and taking action with what we want accomplished for the future of this game.

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst191691_H4-survey--3K-completed--keep--m-coming.aspx

Again, please look into and complete this survey! This is for the good of the future of Halo!

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> Ive browsed/interacted on this forum several times over the past few months. And if any 343 employee has too, which they MUST have, they wouldve reached these obv conclusions.
>
> -A huge # of ppl hate or have issues with custom games. From what I’ve gathered they are only asking for rather simplistic modifications. So, do it for them.
>
> -Ppl are unhappy with the playlists. Ask the community what playlist they want, via poll, then provide it.
>
> -Seems to be a lot of chiming about the DMR being overpowered. This one ive noticed first hand, couldnt agree more. Survey the community about it, then act accordigly.
>
> -Huge competitive community beyond angry about no ranking system. Futhermore, the waypoint only CSR in April will only infuriate them even more. Read what they want, this is not it. Youre making the problem worse, fix it properly.
>
> -Nobody wanted team throwdown. From what ive gathered a heavy rather obv majority wants ranked vs social playlists. Why not try to accommodate them. This solution doesnt offend anyone.
>
> All Im getting at is, Im joe blow, a fan and player of Halo for sometime. If I were a 343i employee or team lead, I cant understand how these simple 5 known issues I just mentioned above, arent priority number 1 and furthermore aren’t easily remedied. Talk to your fans, find a solution, execute.

OP you forgot something. Good connection searching. For months us Aussies and other international fans begged for it and 1500 people voted for it

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst129636p72_NO--REGIONAL-FILTER----OR--GOOD-CONNECTION.aspx

Now we’ve all eventually stopped playing cause it’s unplayable. This feature was in Reach and the Australian population played Reach up until Halo 3 came out but after months of Halo 4 came out every Aussie I know has given up. Sadly, most of us WANT to play Halo 4 but it’s a frustrating horrible experience.