I agree.
The only issue with this is once it is done, individuals will complain that the CSR formula is not an accurate assessment of their capabilities.
Then they will say that CSR is broken, and wish for the good old days of Bungie.
The nature of a ranking system is that their are few on the top, and most of us in the middle, and a few right at the bottom.
CSR will serve as a dose of reality for a ton of so-called competitive gamers who find themselves stuck at level 30…
> The only issue with this is once it is done, individuals will complain that the CSR formula is not an accurate assessment of their capabilities.
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> Then they will say that CSR is broken, and wish for the good old days of Bungie.
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> The nature of a ranking system is that their are few on the top, and most of us in the middle, and a few right at the bottom.
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> CSR will serve as a dose of reality for a ton of so-called competitive gamers who find themselves stuck at level 30…
“competitive gamer” has no correlation to what skillset you have, it is a state-of-mind.
If you guys love proving how good you are then sign up for my Waypoint league i’m starting. Go to this thread and vote!
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst187021_Halo-Waypoint-Competitive-League.aspx
Honestly, I really don’t want the new trilogy to go down the same path as its predecessors, and see the return of the black market which brought ruin to competitive mp. That being said, there is no denying the fact that many people want CSR back in-game. If it really must happen to please you lot, then I guess there’s no other choice. If it will stop you whinging like kids over a broken toy,
then fine.
However, certain measures should be put into place to prevent boosters/de-rankers from destroying online mp again. Each players CSR should automatically go down after a brief absence from online mp. This should allow players to show their “true-skill”, and won’t give them much (if not any) incentive to boost/sell accounts.
It will also encourage people to keep playing, to stay on top, instead of reaching 50 & then cease playing in fear of losing it… like that even matters anyway. -_-’
My view is that if people want to boost , let them , they will see life at level 50 isnt as much fun as it is at level 15. More fool them.
343 only wants to add CSR for improved matchmaking, not so egotists can have something that “proves” they’re holier than thou.
I don’t know about “old”, but I’ve been around since the days we had to use xbox connect.
I disagree with that article.
The boosting, cheating and general -Yoink- that goes along with a visible rank system lowers the quality of gameplay.
I always try to win. But if I didn’t, I probably still had fun.
But maybe that’s just “old guy” talk…
I just can’t understand how a rank in a game would be the main motivation to play.
Relevant (and by no means personal, OP):
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
(Macbeth Act 5 Scene 5)
> > The only issue with this is once it is done, individuals will complain that the CSR formula is not an accurate assessment of their capabilities.
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> > Then they will say that CSR is broken, and wish for the good old days of Bungie.
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> > The nature of a ranking system is that their are few on the top, and most of us in the middle, and a few right at the bottom.
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> > CSR will serve as a dose of reality for a ton of so-called competitive gamers who find themselves stuck at level 30…
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> “competitive gamer” has no correlation to what skillset you have, it is a state-of-mind.
This. You can think competitively and still suck.
> The only issue with this is once it is done, individuals will complain that the CSR formula is not an accurate assessment of their capabilities.
Questioning any formula for deriving skill is a very real and legitimate concern. The way in which variables are weighted matters a great deal.
Will the cult of the Halo 2 De-Rankers return ?
After he connected the wa people reacted to Halo 2 to today i freaking broke out and yelled EXACTYL!!! Ididnt even have that game and i still remember all the rageing.
> http://halo4csr.blogspot.co.uk/
As a 34 year old gamer that could only reach a 42 in Halo 3, I agree with you completely. I didn’t cry when playing a bunch of 50’s but me and my friends heartbeat raced a bit faster when we knew that we would have to really up our team work and personal play. For the people that bought the 50’s, we stomped them. For the legit 50’s,we went back and watched their game play.
It almost always brought on trash talking and t-bagging but my team and most of the others we played LOVED it.
It is what made Halo different from the other FPS’s.
From what I read, I guess 343 doesn’t want an in-game rank because of cheaters, boosters, and new accounts. Well, I say ban the people that cheat, let people boost because they will still get beat by people that are better than them, and I never minded the people that made new accounts because I didn’t see them enough.
I believe there will NEVER be a perfect system. But I liked Halo 3’s ranking. If they are making a better one, SWEET! But if it’s not in the game then I really don’t care about it. I’m either too lazy to go to Waypoint or I can find better things to do like actually play the game.
Theres positives and negatives, but what really irritates me is how many people want it not for competitiveness, but to show how good they are.
All I want is the ability to make it invisible. I don’t want to be stat tracked. I want to rush the enemy and have fun not worrying about K/D, rank, and W/L. Can I get that option as well when CSR comes out 343, can I please turn the stat tracker off? I just want to play your game instead of fretting over my personal Pokemon card.
If I’ve learned anything from this forum, it’s that your rank and K/D ratio is your ticket to having an opinion. If your stats are lower than someone else, then you are deemed “trash” and no longer allowed to speak, because to some people, a 1.19 vs a 1.20 K/D is the difference between “hardcore MLG” and “casual noob.”
We dont need that kind of behavior running rampant again.
“All we had were people moaning and complaining about how bad Halo 2 was.”
Ughh, this cycle is going to go on forever. Proof how long the cycle has gone on.
If 343i are worried about new accounts , that’s good for microsoft surely , more money, but I am not too sure about the new account thing to be honest, I just wonder how many people are going to go to waypoint, I never even knew there was a bpr thing on reach, still don’t really know what it is , was.
Why is it an issue if people boost/cheat/whatever? If you boosted to get that 50, it’s meaningless and you’re going to get your -Yoink- kicked by people who earned it legitimately, so why does it matter?
No one is going to say “OH -Yoink- A 50, BETTER RUN” when they are kicking your -Yoink- in-game.
That said, why is CSR the biggest thing on people’s minds? The game lacks half the content of its predecessors and has horrible imbalance to top it off, and the thing people are most concerned about is being able to view their progress in-game…I don’t even know where to begin with that.
> “All we had were people moaning and complaining about how bad Halo 2 was.”
> Ughh, this cycle is going to go on forever. Proof how long the cycle has gone on.
The “cycle” is a load of -Yoink- used to discredit the other side. Yes, Halo 2 sucked on release. But it was awesome after, and Halo 3 didn’t have any major flaws on release either.
I for one never complained when either game came out.
This isn’t to say Halo 4 can’t improve either, but right now, it’s simply below the bar. I don’t see how people can legitimately defend this game.
Custom games options are unnacceptable, the DMR is overpowered, Spartan Ops is repetitive, etc. etc., I’m sure you’ve all heard these arguments over and over and over again, there’s just no excuse.
> If I’ve learned anything from this forum, it’s that your rank and K/D ratio is your ticket to having an opinion.
While sad, it’s also really easy to stat pad in this game. Might as well just so such people will leave you alone.