99 Reasons Why Halo 4 Isn't Better than Reach

Halo 4 will NEVER be better than Reach. The TU fixed the bloom and armor lock problems for the most part.

How is a title update ever going to fix a game that has ABSOLUTELY ZERO BALANCE - with instant and dynamic respawns - and where power weapons are handed out like candy.

In Halo 4:

Where is Objective one flag?
Where is Objective neutral flag?
Where is Objective two flag slayer?
Where is Objective Assault?
Where is Objective neutral bomb
Where is Objective speed flag?
Where is Objective stockpile?
Where is Objective 3 plots?
Where the hell is Team Objective to begin with?
Why are Odball, CTF, and King of the Hill not in one playlist? - maybe for it to look like 343 has more than the pathetic 6 playlists that would be there?
Where is BTB 2 flag?
Where is BTB one flag
Where is BTB neutral bomb?
Where is BTB territories?
Where is BTB assault?
Where is BTB snipers?
Where is BTB stockpile?
Where is the Revenant?
Where is Revi-sniping?
Where is the Falcon?
Where are the crazy Warthog physics?
Where is a Banshee that isn’t a flying Spartan coffin?
Where is Griffball?
Where is Griffball Dash?
Where is MLG slayer?
Where is MLG CTF?
Where is MLG assault?
Where is Arena?
Where is Rocket Hog Race?
Where is Multi-Team Slayer?
Where is Multi-Team king of the hill?
Where is Multi-Team 3-ball?
Where is Multi-Team hot potato?
Where is Headhunter?
Where is the REAL Rumble Pit?
Where is Double Team slayer?
Where is Double Team CTF?
Whee is Double Team Oddball?
Where is Double Team hot potato?
Where is Double Team neutral bomb?
Where the hell is just regular Team Slayer?
Where is Invasion?
Where is Invasion slayer
Where is SWAT potato?
Where is SWAT 3 plots?
Where are 99% of Custom Game options:
Where is Assault?
Where is Juggernaut?
Where is Race?
Where is VIP?
Where is the ability to change Infected weapons?
Where is the ability to disable sprint?
Where is the ability to disable the new flag settings?
Where is the Custom Powerup?
Where is Waypoint support for fileshare items?
Where is the weapon balance?
Where is map balance?
Where are power weapons that don’t have HUGE indicators over them?
Where are weapons on the map?
Where is being shot out of scope?
Where are map vetoes?
Where is the regional filter so every game isn’t a laggy nightmare?
Where is fileshare for Customs?
Where is theatre for campaign?
Where is Firefight?
Where is there an announcer that doesn’t sound like a -Yoink!-?
Where is the plasma launcher?
Where is the grenade launcher?
Where is the Focus Rifle?
Where is the Needle Rifle(You even added the DMR in Halo 4 = WTF?)
Where is map control?
Where is Forge World?
Where is the ability to drop the freaking flag?
Where is the ability to walk by the flag without picking it up?
Where is flag juggling?
Where are weapons that won’t despawn in 2 seconds?
Where are the Elites?
Where is Elite Slayer?
Where is the plasma rifle?
Where are the Covenant themed maps?
Where is the REAL evade?
Where is the 3D player view in lobby?
Where is the large variety of Covenant?
Where is a lobby that doesn’t look like bad Pokemon cards?
Where is the ability to quickly/easily look up commendations in lobby?
Where is the iconic Halo music?
Where is the red X informing players of a team mates death?
Where can red X be used as a very convenient call-out to team mates?
Where are headshot medals?
Where the hell is the perfection medal?
Where can I just pick the emblem I like?
Where can I play campaign that doesn’t have invisible walls EVERYWHERE?
Where can I enjoy campaign scoring?
Where can I enjoy playlists that aren’t removed every week?
Where can I pick up grenades if I want to?
Where can I play with Sigma5000?
Where is any sort of fun?

All of the Items listed above were in Reach

Halo 4’s campaign was the most repetitive out of any Halo in history - clear out a room full of enemies - press 3 switches - and repeat for about 5 hours. Yep, 5 hours if you skip the cut-scenes.

Halo 4 gives you:

The Mantis
Join in progress
Random weapon spawns
Random ordinance
Promethian weapons that are just clones of already existing weapons
The ability to throw the bomb

Final question:

Where is Halo 4?

Im not here to argue any point as everything you said is true.
Halo4 misses lots.
But the only thing that actually makes it bad are the lagging games from the lack of filter.

Completely agree with this list. Halo 4 is just too empty and too CoD-Like right now… it’s kind of depressing. :frowning:

At least there were no missions that had you going backwards.

Do you realize that two weeks+ after Halo: Reach’s launch, it didn’t have everything you listed? Things like that takes time. They are gradually adding things to Halo 4 just like Bungie/343i did with Reach.

If you look at an object from full birds eye view it will nudge :slight_smile:

Here’s another thread complaining about the little things that will eventually be added or fixed.

I’ve yet to see a thread complaining about the “real” problems with in Halo 4. inb4 well let’s hear them.

If you don’t know, then you …just …don’t …know.

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1 reason why Halo 4 its better:

Where are the annoying whinning complainers playing? Reacha nd any other of Bungie’s Halo’s. Seriously, if you don’t like it, woopydy -Yoinking!- doo. Im gettin sick of people just, whinning and crying.

nothing to see here folks, most of the stuff he listed were not available at lauch for reach either. armor lock and bloom make reach worse than halo 4 by default. /thread.

Lets take a little trip down memory lane.

Halo CE: “omg guys the pistol is too OP”

Halo 2: “omg guys where is pistol, this game is too confusing and new stuff is bad”

Halo 3: “omg guys nothing is balanced, this game sucks Halo 2 master race”

Halo Reach: “omg guys this game is garbage Halo 3 ftw”

Halo 4: “omg guys halo reach was best game ever why this game suck for?”

and there is the halo community in a nutshell.

JUST A BUNCH OF COMPLAINERS

The title of the thread was better than the post. It was like Snakes on a Plane.

You should change the title, “72 Questions…”

Then go play reach, Debbie. I’m sure you’ll find a lot of like minded individuals on there. While you’re at it take the rest of the H4 haters with you and go start your own club and website because I’m sick of seeing this crap on these forums. Unless you have something to say that can behove people who play the game or the game itself then cry about it to people who don’t mind the whining.

mast3rmask you r my HERO

Bloodmask you’re my hero.

This forum never ceases to amaze me. It’s just turning into a whine fest here. Not even worth spending time in the forums anymore.

EDIT: Actually from looking at his service record, it would appear he hasn’t even played a single campaign mission. So saying that the campaign is the most repetitive in the series doesn’t hold much truth to it. Plus, Halo Combat Evolved would like to have a word with you.

> In Halo 4:
>
> Where is Objective one flag?
> Where is Objective neutral flag?
> Where is Objective two flag slayer?
> Where is Objective Assault?
> Where is Objective neutral bomb
> Where is Objective speed flag?
> Where is Objective stockpile?
> Where is Objective 3 plots?
> Where the hell is Team Objective to begin with?
> Why are Odball, CTF, and King of the Hill not in one playlist? - maybe for it to look like 343 has more than the pathetic 6 playlists that would be there?
> Where is BTB 2 flag?
> Where is BTB one flag
> Where is BTB neutral bomb?
> Where is BTB territories?
> Where is BTB assault?
> Where is BTB snipers?
> Where is BTB stockpile?
> Where is the Revenant?
> Where is Revi-sniping?
> Where is the Falcon?
> Where are the crazy Warthog physics?
> Where is Griffball?
> Where is Griffball Dash?
> Where is MLG slayer?
> Where is MLG CTF?
> Where is MLG assault?
> Where is Arena?
> Where is Rocket Hog Race?
> Where is Multi-Team Slayer?
> Where is Multi-Team king of the hill?
> Where is Multi-Team 3-ball?
> Where is Multi-Team hot potato?
> Where is Headhunter?
> Where is the REAL Rumble Pit?
> Where is Double Team slayer?
> Where is Double Team CTF?
> Whee is Double Team Oddball?
> Where is Double Team hot potato?
> Where is Double Team neutral bomb?
> Where the hell is just regular Team Slayer?
> Where is Invasion?
> Where is Invasion slayer
> Where is SWAT potato?
> Where is SWAT 3 plots?
> Where are 99% of Custom Game options:
> Where is Assault?
> Where is Juggernaut?
> Where is Race?
> Where is VIP?
> Where is the ability to change Infected weapons?
> Where is the ability to disable sprint?
> Where is the ability to disable the new flag settings?
> Where is the Custom Powerup?
> Where is Waypoint support for fileshare items?
> Where is the weapon balance?
> Where is map balance?
> Where are weapons on the map?
> Where is being shot out of scope?
> Where are map vetoes?
> Where is the regional filter so every game isn’t a laggy nightmare?
> Where is fileshare for Customs?
> Where is theatre for campaign?
> Where is Firefight?
> Where is there an announcer that doesn’t sound like a -Yoink!-?
> Where is the plasma launcher?
> Where is the grenade launcher?
> Where is the Focus Rifle?
> Where is the Needle Rifle(You even added the DMR in Halo 4 = WTF?)
> Where is map control?
> Where is Forge World?
> Where is any sort of fun?
>
> All of the Items listed above were in Reach
>
> Halo 4’s campaign was the most repetitive out of any Halo in history - clear out a room full of enemies - press 3 switches - and repeat for about 5 hours. Yep, 5 hours if you skip the cut-scenes.
>
> Halo 4 gives you:
>
> The Mantis
> Join in progress
> Random weapon spawns
> Random ordinance
> Promethian weapons that are just clones of already existing weapons
> The ability to throw the bomb
>
> Final question:
>
> Where is Halo 4?

From the looks of it, you want Halo 3 with updated graphics. Sorry, but you should really learn to approach things with an open mind or you’ll never be satisfied. 343i made some changes (much the same as Bungie did over the years). They probably took out the plethora of objective game types for the sake of simplicity. Either way, there’s a lot of room for added content.

> Halo 4 will NEVER be better than Reach. The TU fixed the bloom and armor lock problems for the most part.
>
> How is a title update ever going to fix a game that has ABSOLUTELY ZERO BALANCE - with instant and dynamic respawns - and where power weapons are handed out like candy.
>
> In Halo 4:
>
> <mark>Where is Objective one flag?</mark>
> <mark>Where is Objective neutral flag?</mark>
> Where is Objective two flag slayer?
> Where is Objective Assault?
> Where is Objective neutral bomb
> <mark>Where is Objective speed flag?</mark>
> Where t<mark>Where is Objective stockpile?</mark>
> <mark>Where is Objective 3 plots?</mark>
> <mark>he hell is Team Objective to begin with?</mark>
> <mark>Why are Odball, CTF, and King of the Hill not in one playlist? - maybe for it to look</mark> like 343 has more than the pathetic 6 playlists that would be there?
> Where is BTB 2 flag?
> Where is BTB one flag
> Where is BTB neutral bomb?
> <mark>Where is BTB territories?</mark>
> Where is BTB assault?
> <mark>Where is BTB snipers?</mark>
> <mark>Where is BTB stockpile?</mark>
> Where is the Revenant?
> Where is Revi-sniping?
> Where is the Falcon?
> <mark>Where are the crazy Warthog physics?</mark>
> <mark>Where is Griffball?</mark>
> Where is Griffball Dash?
> <mark>Where is MLG slayer?</mark>
> <mark>Where is MLG CTF?</mark>
> Where is MLG assault?
> <mark>Where is Arena?</mark>
> Where is Rocket Hog Race?
> Where is Multi-Team Slayer?
> Where is Multi-Team king of the hill?
> <mark>Where is Multi-Team 3-ball?</mark>
> <mark>Where is Multi-Team hot potato?</mark>
> <mark>Where is Headhunter?</mark>
> Where is the REAL Rumble Pit?
> Where is Double Team slayer?
> Where is Double Team CTF?
> Whee is Double Team Oddball?
> <mark>Where is Double Team hot potato?</mark>
> <mark>Where is Double Team neutral bomb?</mark>
> <mark>Where the hell is just regular Team Slayer?</mark>
> <mark>Where is Invasion?</mark>
> <mark>Where is Invasion slayer</mark>
> <mark>Where is SWAT potato?</mark>
> <mark>Where is SWAT 3 plots?</mark>
> Where are 99% of Custom Game options:
> Where is Assault?
> <mark>Where is Juggernaut?</mark>
> Where is Race?
> <mark>Where is VIP?</mark>
> Where is the ability to change Infected weapons?
> Where is the ability to disable sprint?
> Where is the ability to disable the new flag settings?
> Where is the Custom Powerup?
> <mark>Where is Waypoint support for fileshare items?</mark>
> <mark>Where is the weapon balance?</mark>
> Where is map balance?
> Where are weapons on the map?
> Where is being shot out of scope?
> Where are map vetoes?
> Where is the regional filter so every game isn’t a laggy nightmare?
> Where is fileshare for Customs?
> Where is theatre for campaign?
> <mark>Where is Firefight?</mark>
> <mark>Where is there an announcer that doesn’t sound like a -Yoink!-?</mark>
> <mark>Where is the plasma launcher?</mark>
> Where is the grenade launcher?
> <mark>Where is the Focus Rifle?</mark>
> <mark>Where is the Needle Rifle(You even added the DMR in Halo 4 = WTF?)</mark>
> Where is map control?
> <mark>Where is Forge World?</mark>
> <mark>Where is any sort of fun?</mark>
>
> All of the Items listed above were in Reach
>
> Halo 4’s campaign was the most repetitive out of any Halo in history - clear out a room full of enemies - press 3 switches - and repeat for about 5 hours. Yep, 5 hours if you skip the cut-scenes.
>
> Halo 4 gives you:
>
> The Mantis
> Join in progress
> Random weapon spawns
> Random ordinance
> Promethian weapons that are just clones of already existing weapons
> The ability to throw the bomb
>
> Final question:
>
> Where is Halo 4?

just for -Yoink- and giggles, i highlighted all the stuff thats either on the way, were never played, scrapped due to being replaced, scrapped cause no used them or stuff that was just retarted on a competitive level. the few points you actually did make are lost in a sea of stupid points.

> This forum never ceases to amaze me. It’s just turning into a whine fest here. Not even worth spending time in the forums anymore.

Appropriate name, lol

I miss the variety of covenant we had in reach, halo 4’s enemies are mostly prometheans which only have 3 types, and the variations of each type are barely significant.

New ranking system sucks, no visible ranks or titles, just a number.

The lobbies are really dull and boring, you can’t view detailed commendations of your friends in game.

3D player view in lobby is gone.

Plasma launcher gone

spiker gone

Less customization for armor

A majority of Armor unlocks don’t look that great( in my opinion ) , and the variants just have a different color pattern on them, unlike reach which actually built on it.