98,000+ Viewers. Halo World Championship Grand Final

It will eventually show up… I wouldn’t worry. Probably today

Unless you include console and game pass numbers, those numbers are worthless. Steam users are the vast minority as well.

I don’t have the numbers though or any known way to see them - do you? How do you know that Steam users are a vast minority?

Yeah I think the drama is the reason they won’t.

That is Steam only users. It doesn’t take into account console or Xbox Game Pass for PC.

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Halo’s a console franchise, it’s always going to have a larger console player base. Game Pass is the better way to play Infinite for PC players, since that 1 dollar also gets you single player instead of having to fork out full price for single player.

One could argue that it doesn’t make any difference for a FREE game. Game pass is 10 dollars, not one, and you don’t get to keep the games.

Anyhow, one could also claim anything when there are no other numbers besides Steam charts. Or are there?

98K people saw me on Twitch then at the event! Even my wife saw my on stream from home!

98K is how many people were watching the grand finals! I’m absolutely mind blown right now!

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i think most people had it on standby and did other things in the meantime

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If you waited until Sunday to watch it, you could unlock all of the drops in one session instead of watching it each day. Then for the other co-streamer drops, you just open another window or tab and put one of the co-streams on to unlock progress for all the drops at once.

I did this and then minimized both streams while my buddies and I watched real life sports. I’ve been watching the HCS all year so far and we all should already know by now that either Cloud9 or Optic is going to win the events.

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There were probably another 20-25k viewers on other big streams too, although any number of them might have been watching more than one stream at a time for different drops, etc.

Yeah it’s still functional, people just don’t play the multiplayer as regularly as some other games maybe.

It’s salvageable for sure, and maybe this winter update will be the start of the healing process

^I really hope so, cause while I will be going to MW2 in 4 days, that’s not my preference at all. I want to keep playing this game, but a functional, significantly reduced desync, and proper content release version of it. If that happens, I will come back, I can’t say the same for the other people I played with, think 343s handling of things burned those bridges for good this time. And I doubt they are the only ones, which is the aspect that frustrates me most, there are absolutely people who would have stayed (newcomers, long time fans, casuals, etc), that felt they had to leave because of the state of this game and that other triple A offerings were superior in one way or another.

I highly doubt a large majority of them come back, and that sucks. It sucks because it is a detriment to my own personal long term goals of a functional and fun halo gaming universe….a company needs money to succeed, continual money in the case of a live service game, without a certain amount of said money from departed players, our overall experience will not be as rich (less content, less fixes, less longevity, less everything good). With that in mind, I can’t stay in the current state, and that sentiment is widely shared from what I’ve seen. Every game is pure frustration due to these issues, I can’t reasonably play a game for fun, when it’s just not fun (but man it truly could be, that’s what drives me nuts about this). 20 years a fan/player, literally never posted on any forum/site until Halo Infinite…there’s a reason for that.

I will say this… I play the same people over and over in ranked… i can’t wait until I get to see different opponents

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It’s clear people are at least interested in the game. The problem is it can’t keep most people playing beyond a month. I fully believe this game can make a 180 and thrive, the question is how long will it take.

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Not breaking 100k for your championship’s grand finals within a year of launch is literally a sign of declining interest. Like, yeah, nearly 100k is impressive, but only outside of the context of events like this and the numbers they usually pull. Especially when you remember that the HCS kickoff event in December 2021 peaked at 250k. That’s over half of your viewership gone.

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Yea I wouldn’t say the game is dead, it’s just not as popular as it could be. I don’t care about steam numbers in general - halo’s home isn’t pc, but infinite is sitting at 23rd on usa most played on xbox.

It’s the 8th shooter - that’s the sad part about infinite. People largely choose different games in the genre.

I imagine when winter update hits, it’ll jump back to 10-15 range, maybe top 10 for a few days.

I’ll also say on youtube - the peak viewers I saw was 200 when twitch had 85k at the time lol. I know some of you will say SoMe PeOpLe WaTcH On YoUtUbE. League and a handful of other “games” were ahead of halo as you’d expect but pretty sure none of them had an event going.

I like your enthusiasm OP but HI has a pitiful population problem now.

Us being at sub top 20 in most played on Xbox is trash.

They need to do better period

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…That’s Steam/PC. aT LIKE, 7:00AM.

Because, quite frankly, there is absolutely no way that - hey are you that sealioning person from the other thread?

Oh my Gods you are.

Nice! It looked really fun!!

They’re still present lol, nobody cares about whether or not the viewers were watching attentively.

Every single thread someone says this stuff and misses the point.

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Not to say this is the answer to that conundrum, but when campaign came out I switched over to the Gamepass PC version from the Steam version, so when I play almost daily it’s not on the steam version like it was at launch.

If many other people did the same it could explain the drift

If you play it, they will come

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I watched all day Sunday on YouTube and had Twitch running on my phone while it charged.

But anyhow - did anybody see Marty the music man being interviewed.

Interesting.

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For some people it may be like that, but for most people I’d dare say that they don’t want to pay subscriptions, or not “own” their games. Also, in my opinion, most PC gamers are snobby towards all gaming platforms that are not Steam, unless a specific game is not going to be released there at all. Too many - including myself - won’t buy from Epic or elsewhere and will wait for a game to be released on Steam in order to have it together with most of their other games, unless it won’t be released there at all so any other platform would be fine as well. As for Infinite, I have it both on Xbox (PC app) and Steam, I could switch between the two if I’d like since it’s the same account, but I have no reason to use the Xbox app. I tried gamepass along with some friends when it was on sale, I only found a couple of games that interested me, and when the gamepass was over, I went over to Steam, wishlisted them and then bought them on sale. Like many other people, I have an abundance of games on Steam, and a gamepass does not appeal much to me, but to each his own of course.

Some people emphasize on Halo’s home being the Xbox, but the PC is the home of the FPS genre and Steam is the king of PC gaming platforms. Thus, you’d expect tens of thousands of players on Steam to jump on a free FPS game with the level of popularity that Halo has, but they don’t.

And you are that person with just claims but no data/numbers whatsoever. Yup.

Would you prefer another hour since that hour may have not been fair for HI? Perhaps it is more informative to see how it’s doing during the same hour and in comparison to other games of the FPS genre. So here are the current players, for various FPS games including Infinite, like 20 minutes ago:

Team Fortress 2 (2007) FREE GAME, has 88,543

Left 4 Dead 2 (2009), has 12,177

Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (2012), FREE GAME, has 658,900

Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege (2015), has 30,543

PUBG: BATTLEGROUNDS (2017) FREE GAME, has 134,276

Apex Legends (2020) FREE GAME, has 96,282

Halo Infinite (2021) FREE GAME, has 3,257

Notice the release dates and whether a game is free on not - it does matter.