It just encourages spamming even more. Before you could spam and be somewhat successful, now you have to spam. If you pace you will die every single time.
What a horrible idea.
Just make the entire game 0 bloom already.
85% is pretty much just an easier to aim version of ZB with a hint of luck.
I completely disagree. After playing nothing but ZB and 85% going back to 100% made it very clear why I hated Reach so much after it was initially released. It’s slow, inconsistent, and cost me 3 controllers so far.
> I completely disagree. After playing nothing but ZB and 85% going back to 100% made it very clear why I hated Reach so much after it was initially released. It’s slow, inconsistent, and cost me 3 controllers so far.
ZB>85%>100%
> > I completely disagree. After playing nothing but ZB and 85% going back to 100% made it very clear why I hated Reach so much after it was initially released. It’s slow, inconsistent, and cost me 3 controllers so far.
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> ZB>85%>100%
Agreed.
Sounds like the description to 100 percent bloom rather than 85 though in either case it’s still random.
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> I completely disagree. After playing nothing but ZB and 85% going back to 100% made it very clear why I hated Reach so much after it was initially released. It’s slow, inconsistent, and cost me 3 controllers so far.
The only inconsistent part about 100% is other people spamming. 85% is completely random because both players are always spamming.
> The only inconsistent part about 100% is other people spamming. 85% is completely random because both players are always spamming.
This isn’t true at all. While spamming (shooting without 100% accuracy in regards to the bloom) is slightly more effective than before, pacing is MUCH more effective than before. Especially now that the BS of “he full spammed and missed 3 shots, I paced but didn’t wait for the full reset on my 5th shot and got out dmr’d” really doesn’t happen, at least that I’ve experienced. Due to the quicker reset time, pacing is far more useful and far less frustrating. At least in my experience. Although this is all playing as a random, maybe it’s not the same with all you pr0 1% Onyx br0z.
Lol…
You obviously haven’t tried pacing. If you pace at a good cadence, you can win against the spammer because you’ll be firing almost as fast as they are.
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Why does everyone say troll as soon as anyone says anything they disagree with?
Im an avid pacer. Im one of the few good players who actually attempts to use bloom the way it was designed. It worked fine for me in default but in 85% spammers out shoot me all the time. Spamming is just far to effective now. It resets so fast that there is no point in not spamming. You never get punished for it. You never really get to the point where your shots become inaccurate.
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There is no reason to let it fully reset if you still have 100% accuracy at 150% reticule size (100% being at rest)… If your definition of “spamming” is netting your opponents 100% accuracy every time, then it’s not “Spamming” it’s how the bloom was intended to be used. I find it hard to believe that you didn’t know that, but I don’t see what other answer there is if you think that 85% is worse than 100%. IMO 85% rewards the better player far more than 100% bloom, and it seems a lot agree.
> > I completely disagree. After playing nothing but ZB and 85% going back to 100% made it very clear why I hated Reach so much after it was initially released. It’s slow, inconsistent, and cost me 3 controllers so far.
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> The only inconsistent part about 100% is other people spamming. 85% is completely random because both players are always spamming.
On paper, you might sound like your right, but thats different than ive experienced.
Just my theory, but i think that 85% works better because it costs less time to actualy pace, which increases the ROF of full pacing. Spamming may be more liekly to hit now, but i think pacing works a little better than before.
Seriously, why the -Yoink- is bloom still in Matchmaking? ZB is superior to bloom gametypes in every single way, why isn’t it a standard for every playlist yet?
Zero bloom as it is currently is not better then 85%, with a reduced rate of fire it might be better then 85% but at the moment it is not. On the subject of 85% compares to 100%, 85% is much better due to the fact that it is much more predictable.
> Zero bloom as it is currently is not better then 85%, with a reduced rate of fire it might be better then 85% but at the moment it is not. On the subject of 85% compares to 100%, 85% is much better due to the fact that it is much more predictable.
this.
85% bloom is
shoot better = win
more of the time.
all you gotta do is spam 4 times, then headshot, the vast majority of the time.
yea, spamming can win still, and the DMR is still inherently flawed. its still better than 100% bloom though because its more consistent.
ZB is the way to go IMO. i just wish the DMR had a bit slower rate of fire.
They already know how to slow rate of fires (look at 3sk pistol), so why not make the DMR shoot slowr but have no bloom for the official and only TU gametype.
It’s so stupid, either have randomness (reason why reach sucks), or no randomness at all.
> It’s so stupid, either have randomness (reason why reach sucks), or no randomness at all.
They can have bloom and still not make it random. They can make it so that you can’t achieve a headshot without letting the bloom fully reset or you can only achieve a headshot while zoomed in, something like that. It will take away the inconsistency and fully encourage pacing since you will be unable to win by spamming at all.
i just love these posts so much.
spamming is hitting the trigger as fast as possible causing random shots to fly everywhere
with 85% bloom the shots are landing where they should go most of the time. so its more likely that there landing there shots on you better then your shooting.
so your not being spammed your being out shot
I prefer 85% but ill take anything as long as they update all the playlists and stop leaving us in limbo with multiple blooms across multiple playlists. Cmon 343, just because you cant make everyone happy doesnt mean you have to attempt just that. Pick a seting and keep it , so i can go back to enjoying the game without having to constantly switch between blooms. I thought this would be common sense