So I’ve gotta be straight with everyone here first, and Foremost. I’m extremely insulted as a longtime fan of this series. As a result this will quite literally be the first Halo I have not physically purchased, and one that I refuse to. The only reason I have been able to play it is thanks to Game Pass, but I digress.
How is it that people are okay with buying this game for what ultimately amounts to seventy dollars to get an experience we’ve always had for less? There is nothing new enough brought to the table to justify a sixty dollar campaign(which isn’t even truly open world, and gets extremely linear half way through), AND ten dollars to unlock the ability to customize your Spartan, plus Microtransactions for a good majority of the best looking customization pieces? Your game is only free to play 343I, in the most shallow sense of the phrase. YOU are charging your fans a premium for content that isn’t even new, much less finished. The list of things missing from this game is atrocious in compared to past Halo games. You are putting a big final nail in the coffin for this game for people that have followed it faithfully for decades. How dare you, and Microsoft deliver such a half-baked product, and expect people to pay what you sell this crap for? You won’t get a cent out of me personally until this mess is fixed properly. You need a title update FAST, for I otherwise cannot see this game lasting long at all. It’s another Anthem, another Cyberpunk 2077, another Mass Effect: Andromeda. I would call for all fans of Halo to boycott this game, get gamepass, play it, but still your wallets from making any store purchases. Hit them where it hurts, and force them to fix this, so that the average fan need not have to fork out THOUSANDS to do something we’ve been able to do since Halo 3.
Because multiplayer is free and campaign is marketed separately as its own thing.
I get the point you’re trying to make, but what you paid for then and what you pay for now are not the same experiences even if they are similar enough to draw parallels to. HI is a different beast from what we’ve seen in the past.
Dunno if you want to have a discussion, you might want to delete or rephrase this part if you do. It could get the topic locked.
I was very satisfied with the campaign for $70. I think I actually paid the equivalent to $80 in the end for my copy.
People seem to hate my opinion but I love free to play but that’s easy for me to say as I’ve never cared about customisation. I’m gonna be enjoying all the free content for years, maybe buy the odd thing. Ultimately I think I will get more out of Infinite than any other Halo game.
The campaign and the multiplayer have always been separate entities, even if people didn’t notice it or refuse to admit it. $60 for the campaign + offline multiplayer, and a yearly $60 subscription for online multiplayer.
With Infinite, we get the multiplayer for free, and have the option of paying $60 for campaign. You don’t even have to buy the campaign to take advantage of the free multiplayer. To make up for no longer having the guaranteed $60 subscription fee, the cosmetics are monetized. They are an optional “pay what you want” experience.
At the end of the day, this is the better value model. I refuse to ever again pay a subscription fee to play my games.
I’ve spent like $20 total on this game so far, and it’s more or less worth it. The campaign is free on gamepass so I didn’t have to buy that to play it. The cosmetics are meh so all I really payed for is the battlepass and I like the stuff I unlocked there so I’m content. Subjectively, I have been enjoying the game other than how much the desync makes me rage at times.
I get that people want to own literally everything this game has to offer, but that era of gaming may have ended completely.
Don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened.
Except we now Pay Less the we ever did before and as a result barely get ANYTHING as a result.
thats the trade off, now you have to buy everything you want Piece Meal instead of just getting it all as part of a actual game. and then getting new things for extra $.
It’s just cosmetics though. You don’t need any of it. And if you did buy all of it, you can’t use all of it.
That’s the thing. When we were paying $60 subscription fees, we got all of the cosmetics, and we had to keep paying for all of those cosmetics over and over again. 95% of which, we never used.
I agree that there should be some base armor cores, base colors, etc that are all available for free players. There will be fixes to this system, and more stuff will become available for free. But even so, we are getting a far better deal than we used to.
In general, I agree, which is why I haven’t spent anything yet. However, on the flip side, I’m getting way more out of this game that I’ve spent $0 on then any other game I’ve spent $0 on.
" But even so, we are getting a far better deal than we used to."
No…No we most certainly are not. we are gettign a far worse deal. they took pretty much everything from halo past and are now selling them back to us Piece Meal like its a Bloody resteraunt.
in halo past we would get a Fully fleshed out Multiplayer, A Full Cinematic Campaign, a Map editor and a whole ton of Cosmetic options. all for $60
now in this “Free to Play” Halo MP to make 1 set of armor likely without Colors that were never monetised, will cost you the same price as a Full AAA game.
and that is only for a absolute barebones MP with atleast $1035 worth of items coming down pipeline for the store in the next couple months.
and then the next year or 2 being full of just readding content and armors from Halo 1-5, ODST and Reach.
“$60 subscription fees, we got all of the cosmetics, and we had to keep paying for all of those cosmetics over and over again”
have you ever PLAYED the previous Halos? they didnt have subscription fees, you buy the game once and you have acess to all the armor for ever only needing to earn it in game to use. never cost extra $$$. if youre saying that in regards to buying each halo game, that armor came included witht he games purchase so not a “subscription fee”
“95% of which, we never used”
doesnt matter, the option was there for a person to switch to the armor pieces on the fly if they wanted to without spending extra. you cant do that anymore because everything is being sold to you Piece Meal.
Long story short, businesses have conditioned players to believe “less is better” with max profit.
Part of me wants to blame it all on 343 but they’re only part of the problem. The actual problem today is players that don’t care about a quality type of game. Look at Fortnite, Mobile games, etc… That players waste a lot of money on cosmetics items. How is any game ever going to actually improve with people like that?
An example,
Someone last week made a post about spending $200.00 to only level up their battle pass. The thing is, they didn’t care that they blew that money and how it affects gaming when it comes to development, they only cared about not having anything to do in the game.
That is how far gone people are these days, that it’s beyond ridiculous.
Please understand 343i and Microsoft are small indie companies, they need your nickels and dimes(more like tens and twenties am I right) to keep the lights on.
Yes, Halo Infinite launched a little bare bones. It went through Covid and development hell, cut 343 a little slack. More content is coming. And all the update content is completely free. It will cost you nothing.
Yes, I have played previous Halos. And yes, they did require subscription fees. I did not get to enjoy the multiplayer portion of Halo for a long time, because I could not afford Xbox Live. Even as an adult, I refuse to pay for Xbox Live because subscription fees are not worth the money. Luckly, I don’t have to. MCC has free multiplayer on PC, and Halo Infinite is completely free to play on all platforms.
We stiil pay $60 for the campaign because of course we do. But the multiplayer portion is completely free. All updates, all maps, all future content, free. The only thing you pay for is the optional cosmetics. No subscription fee. Just log on and play. That’s a WAY BETTER DEAL.
Now, I’m not saying that the cosmetic system is perfect. There are fixes they can make. They could offer the base colors and some base armors for free, and they could do away with the core system. But they’re working on that. Changes and fixes will come. In the meantime. I’ll say it again. The game is completely free to play. And I couldn’t be happier that I get to experience Halo multiplayer with friends again without having to pay an arm and a leg for it.
The game launched with 10 maps. On par with previous games. More content will come. The game went through Covid and development hell. Just be patient. All future DLC content will be completely free. No extra cost to you.
Umm but it wasn’t planned to be free. They were going to double xbox live cost and charge for F2P games and then they stripped out content from the campaign like earnable unlocks to cater to the predatory shop. Far as I’m concerned I paid for the game and others got other stuff for free because many of us supported them and now a lot of content that would have been part of the base game is blocked behind a 2nd paywall.
Beast makes it sound like the content we got was somehow better or equal to what we once got. Halo Infinite feels more like a husk of it’s former self and that to me is depressing. The campaign was average but the multiplayer is meant to last 10 years and from what I’ve played I doubt it’ll keep my interest for weeks/months. I haven’t dropped a Halo this fast since Halo 4.
Free generally doesn’t always mean good and the sad part is all Infinite is doing is making me want to go back to just playing MCC instead. I suspected I might dislike Infinite before it releases but I didn’t expect to have nothing worthwhile to do.