4sk DMR/pistol

Now, as we all know, bleedthrough is being added to weapons like the DMR, the pistol, and also melee. So I wanted to find out how this would affect the weapons in terms of shots to kill.

It all revolves around if the DMR/pistol (which do equal damage) take down exactly 25% of shields per shot, or slightly more. If it was slightly more, bleedthrough would allow the 4th shot to bleed through the shields and kill, if a headshot.

After toying with the settings in Reach in an attempt to find exactly how much damage the DMR/pistol did per shot, I used the following:

110% damage
AR (which I knew took 9.1%, of 1/11, of shields down per shot)
DMR

So with 110 damage, the AR deals 10% shield damage per shot.

It turns out, 3 DMR shots and one AR shot will take down an opponent’s shields on 110 damage. So I concluded the following:

Since 100-10=90, I knew the 3 DMR shots did 90% of the shield damage. So on 110 damage, 3 DMR shots do 90% shield damage, or 30 per shot. Divide that by 110%, and you get 27.27.

Conclusions: The DMR and pistol both do around 27.3% shield damage per shot, meaning that with bleedthrough, they will be 4 shot kills, if the last shot is a headshot.

Discuss

Yes on 110 percent damage, but the DMR already has bleedthrough…

> Yes on 110 percent damage, but the DMR already has bleedthrough…

This, the final kill in the Damnation gameplay was a DMR kill while the enemy still had shields but it was a headshot so bleedthrough was in effect.

No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists

> No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists

Nope, it never has been, the DMR will only kill with a headshot if the enemy has no shields.

What’s bleedthrough.

Damn it, you were always better with those calculations of yours than I was.

The AR gets a power boost, and the DMR/Pistol get better. Win-win situation.

> No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists

Nope.

> > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
>
> Nope.

Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.

> > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> >
> > Nope.
>
> Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.

Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.

> > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > >
> > > Nope.
> >
> > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
>
> Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.

I guess that was it…

And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher :wink:

> > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> >
> > Nope.
>
> Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.

Video or it didn’t happen.

Sometimes lag can make it appear that way.

> Damn it, you were always better with those calculations of yours than I was.
>
> The AR gets a power boost, and the DMR/Pistol get better. Win-win situation.

Haha thanks man. I also agree about the AR, pistol, and DMR getting stronger. I’d say it’s a win-win-win.

> > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > >
> > > > Nope.
> > >
> > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> >
> > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
>
> I guess that was it…
>
> And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher :wink:

I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.

Just bullets.

> > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope.
> > > >
> > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > >
> > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> >
> > I guess that was it…
> >
> > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher :wink:
>
> I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
>
> Just bullets.

I wasnt exactly being serious…

> > > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > > >
> > > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> > >
> > > I guess that was it…
> > >
> > > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher :wink:
> >
> > I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
> >
> > Just bullets.
>
> I wasnt exactly being serious…

cries in a corner

> > > > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> > > >
> > > > I guess that was it…
> > > >
> > > > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher :wink:
> > >
> > > I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
> > >
> > > Just bullets.
> >
> > I wasnt exactly being serious…
>
> cries in a corner

?

And just bringing this up as a joke but doesnt the sniper have bleedthrough?

> > > > > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess that was it…
> > > > >
> > > > > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher :wink:
> > > >
> > > > I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
> > > >
> > > > Just bullets.
> > >
> > > I wasnt exactly being serious…
> >
> > cries in a corner
>
> ?

I have no idea :3

> > > > > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess that was it…
> > > > >
> > > > > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher :wink:
> > > >
> > > > I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
> > > >
> > > > Just bullets.
> > >
> > > I wasnt exactly being serious…
> >
> > cries in a corner
>
> ?
>
> And just bringing this up as a joke but doesnt the sniper have bleedthrough?

The sniper, now this I wonder about, I have never attempted to snipe on Reach other than Team Snipers, you could do some research for me.

However, I was probably over doing it when I said no form of Bleedthrough exists in Reach.

What kind of research?