Now, as we all know, bleedthrough is being added to weapons like the DMR, the pistol, and also melee. So I wanted to find out how this would affect the weapons in terms of shots to kill.
It all revolves around if the DMR/pistol (which do equal damage) take down exactly 25% of shields per shot, or slightly more. If it was slightly more, bleedthrough would allow the 4th shot to bleed through the shields and kill, if a headshot.
After toying with the settings in Reach in an attempt to find exactly how much damage the DMR/pistol did per shot, I used the following:
110% damage
AR (which I knew took 9.1%, of 1/11, of shields down per shot)
DMR
So with 110 damage, the AR deals 10% shield damage per shot.
It turns out, 3 DMR shots and one AR shot will take down an opponent’s shields on 110 damage. So I concluded the following:
Since 100-10=90, I knew the 3 DMR shots did 90% of the shield damage. So on 110 damage, 3 DMR shots do 90% shield damage, or 30 per shot. Divide that by 110%, and you get 27.27.
Conclusions: The DMR and pistol both do around 27.3% shield damage per shot, meaning that with bleedthrough, they will be 4 shot kills, if the last shot is a headshot.
Discuss
Yes on 110 percent damage, but the DMR already has bleedthrough…
> Yes on 110 percent damage, but the DMR already has bleedthrough…
This, the final kill in the Damnation gameplay was a DMR kill while the enemy still had shields but it was a headshot so bleedthrough was in effect.
No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
Nope, it never has been, the DMR will only kill with a headshot if the enemy has no shields.
Damn it, you were always better with those calculations of yours than I was.
The AR gets a power boost, and the DMR/Pistol get better. Win-win situation.
> No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
Nope.
> > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
>
> Nope.
Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> >
> > Nope.
>
> Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > >
> > > Nope.
> >
> > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
>
> Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
I guess that was it…
And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher 
> > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> >
> > Nope.
>
> Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
Video or it didn’t happen.
Sometimes lag can make it appear that way.
> Damn it, you were always better with those calculations of yours than I was.
>
> The AR gets a power boost, and the DMR/Pistol get better. Win-win situation.
Haha thanks man. I also agree about the AR, pistol, and DMR getting stronger. I’d say it’s a win-win-win.
> > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > >
> > > > Nope.
> > >
> > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> >
> > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
>
> I guess that was it…
>
> And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher 
I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
Just bullets.
> > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope.
> > > >
> > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > >
> > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> >
> > I guess that was it…
> >
> > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher 
>
> I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
>
> Just bullets.
I wasnt exactly being serious…
> > > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > > >
> > > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> > >
> > > I guess that was it…
> > >
> > > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher 
> >
> > I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
> >
> > Just bullets.
>
> I wasnt exactly being serious…
cries in a corner
> > > > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> > > >
> > > > I guess that was it…
> > > >
> > > > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher 
> > >
> > > I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
> > >
> > > Just bullets.
> >
> > I wasnt exactly being serious…
>
> cries in a corner
?
And just bringing this up as a joke but doesnt the sniper have bleedthrough?
> > > > > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess that was it…
> > > > >
> > > > > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher 
> > > >
> > > > I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
> > > >
> > > > Just bullets.
> > >
> > > I wasnt exactly being serious…
> >
> > cries in a corner
>
> ?
I have no idea :3
> > > > > > > > > No I believe bleedthrough is in effect for the DMR right now in the current playlists
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nope.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thats strange cause its happened to me before where I shot the guy in the head, his shields popped, and I got a headshot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Must have been seeing a hint of lag or someone else shot him, bleedthrough plays no part in Reach currently.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess that was it…
> > > > >
> > > > > And what about bleedthrough with the rocket launcher 
> > > >
> > > > I do believe that is just an instant-kill, explosive weapons don’t exactly count.
> > > >
> > > > Just bullets.
> > >
> > > I wasnt exactly being serious…
> >
> > cries in a corner
>
> ?
>
> And just bringing this up as a joke but doesnt the sniper have bleedthrough?
The sniper, now this I wonder about, I have never attempted to snipe on Reach other than Team Snipers, you could do some research for me.
However, I was probably over doing it when I said no form of Bleedthrough exists in Reach.