4sk BR promotes camping. (And more)

Games Other Halo
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The world may end. The entire Halo funness and greaness rests on the balance of a single weapon, Which makes up less then half of the guns, and less then a single percent of the other things in the game.

The Battle Rifle is 5sk. OMFG. Somebody hold me. I may not be able to hold all these extra 1 shots

So you want 4sk? Think it’ll skill up the game? Balance it? Quicken gameplay? But wait…Aren’t you against CODism? Quick kill times are about as CODism as you can get without being COD.

All the 4sk BR does is say “Hey, Don’t run outside and get kills like you would in Halo the last 10+ years”. It however does say “Camp this base because some -Yoink- will run in and you can get an easy point”…

See if you make the BR 4sk, that means the DMR needs to change, and the Carbine, Then the other guns need to change. Which means they get 25+% faster kill times, which means there’s 75% telling you “don’t go outside, you will die”

And as far as “Punishing bad players”. COD punished bad players too, but making guns too damn powerful and making “going out” and trying something a one way ticket to being shot in the -Yoink-.

HALO

Should be about skill in more then 1 or 2 ways. Making it so you can pick off a guy in 4 shots easily (3 head shots) isn’t making it more fun, skilled, or better. It’s making it -Yoink-, terrible, and unbalanced. That extra shot, that extra shot is what seperates Halo 4 from being a -Yoink- shooter, to HALO.

Skill in Halo has always been about a multitude of things. Aim, Weapon choice, Tactics, Area, and Knowledge with a hint of Random kicked in. Once you make “AIM” (or any of these) more useful and important is when you ruin the game.

PEACE.

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> See if you make the BR 4sk, that means the DMR needs to change, and the Carbine, Then the other guns need to change.

As of the E3 build, the BR is .4 seconds slower in kill time then the carbie or DMR. If it were 4 shot, it would be equal with them in kill time. No need to change anything else.

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I really dislike the look, sound, and ROF on the BR, but a 5sk BR is crap and 4sk BR is OP. Increase ROF instead.

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> > See if you make the BR 4sk, that means the DMR needs to change, and the Carbine, Then the other guns need to change.
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> As of the E3 build, the BR is .4 seconds slower in kill time then the carbie or DMR. If it were 4 shot, it would be equal with them in kill time. No need to change anything else.

Exactly.

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> All the 4sk BR does is say “Hey, Don’t run outside and get kills like you would in Halo the last 10+ years”. It however does say “Camp this base because some -Yoink!- will run in and you can get an easy point”…
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> See if you make the BR 4sk, that means the DMR needs to change, and the Carbine, Then the other guns need to change. Which means they get 25+% faster kill times, which means there’s 75% telling you “don’t go outside, you will die”

Halo 1, 2, and 3 all had a utility weapon which was a 4SK or less.

Changing the BR to a 4SK would only balance the kill times with the Carbine and DMR.

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What you wrote was just a bunch of nonsense. It was all just opinion masked as logic.

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> What you wrote was just a bunch of nonsense. It was all just opinion masked as logic.

That my friend is what I like to call delusion. You’ll find much of it throughout this forum.

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> I really dislike the look, sound, and ROF on the BR, but a 5sk BR is crap and 4sk BR is OP. Increase ROF instead.

How is a 4sk one going to be OP? It will have the same kill time of a DMR.

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Increase the ROF on the BR or make it 4sk im fine with both kind of as long as everything is BALANCED.

ALSO THE 4sk worked great in earlyer HALO’S what makes you think it would work differently in halo 4 ?

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I disagree. Like people said, making it a 4sk would balance the kill times.

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Faster killtimes in Halo promotes camping? smh.

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Your opinion is so flawed I’m not even going to try to disprove it.

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It’s a very simple matter. If you’re going to bring back the Battle Rifle then make it familiar. If you can’t make that work in the game remove it. Some fans who played the demo at E3 said it took getting used to for the reason you expect a kill after four iterations.

You can slow down the rate of fire if you need to but don’t tell me it’s a Battle Rifle if it’s top signiture quality was changed. It’s not.

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> > See if you make the BR 4sk, that means the DMR needs to change, and the Carbine, Then the other guns need to change.
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> As of the E3 build, the BR is .4 seconds slower in kill time then the carbie or DMR. If it were 4 shot, it would be equal with them in kill time. No need to change anything else.

Do you really think this was an oversight on 343i’s part? They have all the statistical data necessary to find the right balance for the gun. Perhaps it has other advantages which require a slightly slower kill time. The point is we don’t know, and they do. Let them balance the weapons, I trust their judgement.

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> > As of the E3 build, the BR is .4 seconds slower in kill time then the carbine or DMR. If it were 4 shot, it would be equal with them in kill time. No need to change anything else.
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> Do you really think this was an oversight on 343i’s part? 343 are omnipotent and infalliable. They could never make a mistake.
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> > Yeah, okay. I see how it is.

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Because having to take 4 headshots with a burst fire weapon(12 bullets) is exactly like CoD, where the M16a4(a burst rifle) can kill in a single headshot provided each bullet hits.

Fast kill environments are more skillful when headshots are promoted more than bodyshots. You are punished much more for failure and slow reaction time.

If you are calling the Halo 2 BR and the Halo CE Pistol CoD weapons, you have to not start a game series on the third one.

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I left this forum because of its immaturity. In my absence I began to wonder, had this place changed?

Nope.

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5sk is Broken …

4sk might be better or maybe just maybe a faster ROF for the BR would buff it up.

have a nice day

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Son, you need to go play some HCE, your argument is invalid. Faster kill times wont make Halo like Cod, Cod is a tactical shooter, Halo is an Arena style shooter. 4sk BR will speed up the game.

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The Dude man19, Your entire look on the “4sk br promotes camping” is flawed. I never see anyone or rarely see anyone camping in the corner with a br in halo 2 or halo 3 unless it’s for a split second to reload it.

The 4sk br is a necessity because it promotes faster kill times in comparison to the other weapons showed in E3. At-least make a good argument about why it promotes camping because I could say the same thing about a dmr or any other weapon but I know it’ll still be incorrect.