3rd times a charm, halo 6 may be the best yet.

Halo 5 is better than Halo 4, Halo 6 will be better than Halo 5.
Will it be perfect though? That remains to be seen.

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> > > > > > 343 learns off their mistakes, I’m sure it will be fine
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> > > > > What prof of this do you have. They take 1 step forward and 500 steps back.
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> > > > They listen to the community, just certain things they cant add due to restraints or balance
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> > > The only one thing the community asked for, as a majority, was Infection. They have done nothing else.
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> And again comes out the point that these should have been present at launch, infection included. This is a sequel here, you don’t get less content in a sequel you get more, at least you’re supposed to unless 343 devs your game.

The point of this conversation was “343 putting in something that was asked for.”

The fact that they weren’t already in is another discussion but we asked for this stuff and they put it in.

You could look at it like starwars. Organa trilogy was perfect. 4 was crap like phantom menace. Attack of the clones well, had some good parts like 5 but can’t compare to the originals. So, how good was episode 3?

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> > Halo 4, amazing campaign, average campaign
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> > Either halo 6 is going to be amazing both ways, or horrible both ways. I am hoping that they go all out since its the last game of this trilogy.
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> Funny thing is, it’s not that last game bud. (:
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> Its not a trilogy, its a saga. Regardless, Frank O’Connor said they have plans for another 15 years of Halo.

Aye but how many halo games (proper ones, not halo wars or SA) wil we get in 15 years? 3-4 if we’re lucky?

Guess what, Bungie didn’t have to -Yoink- up twice to make a good game. They knew exactly what they were doing.

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> *kills cortana in the first cutscene

I died at this! Lol! Poor Jul M’dama. Had no relevance in the story. Talk about a lot of build up for a villain just to have him offed. I think that was my biggest problem with H5, the horrible transition from H4. You see I actually like H4’s campaign and Spartan Ops story. I thought it made for some awesome character development. But H5 didn’t build on that. That and the story was poorly executed… Could have had the same theme, just needed to do it better. I hope 343 learns from their mistakes and makes H6 even better than it’s predecessors. If their pride gets in the way though… I’m not so sure. One can only hope. We probably have few years till then.

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Only just noticed because of you, haha, meant to be average multiplayer :stuck_out_tongue:

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> That’s what I’m screaming. This guy must not have played the classics. There is a reason that they made more, were played more, and lasted longer.

Don’t think I have missed a halo game yet. So, I am not sure what you’re saying?

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> Funny thing is, it’s not that last game bud. (:
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> Its not a trilogy, its a saga. Regardless, Frank O’Connor said they have plans for another 15 years of Halo.

Probably won’t be the last halo game ever, but it is going to be an end to the 343 trilogy. I know its the reclaimer saga, but to me its two different trilogies because they are made by two completely different teams.

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> Wait halo 4 4had two campaigns one amazing one average?

You didn’t know about the secret campaign? :open_mouth:

Halo 6 better be -Yoink- gold because if it’s not I will be very disappointed

While I do agree with some of the usual rants, I have to say that except for Halo 5, I haven’t seen anything so important being done with and for the community.
Infection is such an example, BTB, Forge, the customs even the soon-to-be-online WZ Firefight. I think that people take most of these for granted just because other HALOs had some of it too. A map editor this advanced was usually unavailable for actual public use, let alone featured on playlists. And there’s more to it then that, I know… It’s just something I wanted to say.

343 is incapable of making a good game…and especially a good Halo game.
It’s not going to happen.
Siege is THE shooter of the current time.
Halo is dead to me.

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> > > > > > > 343 learns off their mistakes, I’m sure it will be fine
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> > > > > > What prof of this do you have. They take 1 step forward and 500 steps back.
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> > > > >
> > > > > They listen to the community, just certain things they cant add due to restraints or balance
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> > > > The only one thing the community asked for, as a majority, was Infection. They have done nothing else.
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> > > Define majority. They also put in many highly requested forge options, Grifball, UI, Firefight (I don’t care about your opinion on its original accuracy, they still put in PvE), and some other tweeks.
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> The point of this conversation was “343 putting in something that was asked for.”
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> The fact that they weren’t already in is another discussion but we asked for this stuff and they put it in.

I didn’t ask for any of it. Without split screen and the lack of custom games being played, there is no point in forge. I play Halo for: Oddball, KoTH, social/divided game types, earned armor, and sooo much more. This is like a totally new game… not Halo, which is what I paid for. Getting infection months after release is not satisfactory. They need MAY more game modes than that. They are using the same engine as before, it wouldn’t be hard to incorporate it. Especially after 5 years plus months after launch, 250,000,000 dollar budget, and money received from reqs. 343 has no excuse.

Halo 6 pretty much has no choice but to be the best yet. 343 are FAR out of chances and there is now doubt what little community is left will disappear if Halo 6 is nothing short of GREAT. Halo fans have had their balls dragged through broken glass for the last 4 years.

H2 was so much better than H1 because H1 was an excellent game in itself, it drew in a huge audience that built on top of the H1 audience, and then it delivered on improving everything that made H1 what it was.

H3 was so much better than H2 (from what I’ve seen) because it’s was an excellent game in itself, it drew a huge audience that built on top of the H2 audience, and then it delivered on improving (almost) everything that made H2 what it was.

H4 veered off. Did not build on top of H3. It had it’s fun moments, but it didn’t build on H3… it went somewhere else. This in turn shrunk a large chunk of the H3 audience.

H5 did not build on H4, and did not try to track back to H3. Rather, it veered into COD Land and didn’t stop accelerating, except for the moments where the campaign changed from an intergalactic war into an AI/Skynet-esque storyline (that went somewhere else entirely). Sure it’s a fun game in its own right, but it is no longer Halo. Thereby further shrinking the Halo audience.

So for H6? What’s the plan? Try to make a U-turn and go back into Halo Land? Continue it’s current path to “Building” a smaller audience? Or something else entirely?

Personally, I’m going to continue believing that H6 is going to be an absolute -Yoink!- of the Halo franchise. If nothing else I might be pleasantly surprised when I play it. … That is, if it has split screen (otherwise I’m not even going to try it).

From the view of 343, as long players continue to play and “hope” they will fix or release more free stuff. The plan is working.
So many of the things 343 has said were, “we are reading your feedback” if that were even true they would of fixed so many things before the launch, had everything read for release and given us “maps” not forge created junk. The whole idea to not include split screen…tells us they did not listen or even know it was the most important part of having halo.

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” and they continue to make mistakes. More Req, more skins, more armor, no changes…
Halo 6…I pray you don’t suffer to long

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> I think its the community and not 343 that’s hurting not Halo’s quality, but prominence in the gaming world. We’ve aged and played so many other games that our tastes have changed. We want different things to be added and taken away from Halo. Its everyone’s preference that injures Halo. I think, for my personal wants for the franchise, it will do well.

The community is at fault? Are u serious? It was definitely are fault they dun goofed with the mcc and halo 5s campaign and lack of content yup definitely are fault

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Well halo 5 arena got rid of the “COD-lite” multiplayer that many people disliked (halo 4’s main mistake), and 343 also learned from the MCC launch disaster(MCC’s main mistake) and gave halo 5 great matchmaking and consistently fast multiplayer connection. I think we can agree that Halo 5’s main mistake was its campaign, and 343 is likely to learn from that and give Halo 6 a great campaign AND great multiplayer.

Halo 4 and 5 are fine, stop your complaining