I wanted to do this post a long time ago but I ditch it thinking to myself to try to enjoy the game, being no so competitive, trying to moldate to wha Halo it is now but again I can’t, not anymore.
Warzone.
Four swords with consecutively increased stats, 1 hit KO. add sprint, add slide, add spartan charge, add speed boost. - Four UNCS weapons. All of them with a energy bayonet. 1 hit KO. Add sprint, add slide, add spartan charge, add speed boost.
Why would you introduce 8 weapons with the same characteristics? The bayonets are portable swords. Bayonets are the equivalent of the Halo 4’s promethean pistol with shotgun capabilities.
It is enjoyable for you to get killed by a guy with speed boost and a sword or by a guy hid in a corner with a prophet’s bane? Then add a guy sprinting all around killing you with a bayonet, effortessly, in a cheap way. You try to get away but spartan charge and slide close the distance. What it is the porpuse to introduce this kind of toxic gameplay? To able to make warzone a fast paced game? Yes, you can use the upgraded shield mod to avoid the 1 hit KO kill but theres a lot of mods to use and the sword neglets the mod making it useless. You can survive to 4 types of energy bayonets but no the other weapons (swords) that have the same characteristics.
The ARs with scope/all the ar variants. This is the main aspect of what I’m trying to explain to you guys.Why would you introduce obsolete weapons to your game, to which porpuse?. It is laughable, it is sad. But we know why they put those weapons, to be able to make the req system, to give microtransactions a reason. To saturate the req system, to makes us spend money. - 5 variants of mongoose all of them share one porpuse. - 6 variants of gungoose. Only two of them useful in both warzone and firefight. - 5 variants of scout warthogs. They share the same porpuse as the mongoose. Can be use to roll over spartans and few bosses in warzone and firefight.I read here a comment saying warzone main porpuse it’s to go “crazy” balance doesnt exist, 343 gives you this cool weapons, let yourself go, make mayhem. And I can see it, I can I agree, but the req requirements doesnt allow it, the capture base part doesnt allow it, it stalls the game and add the farming. Where’s the mayhem? Where’s the fun? Did you had fun when you were farmed?
And this is where the “pay to use” part comes.
You open a golden req pack, a cool weapons is in it, you like it and use it, you open another gold pack but now it only has lower xp, three mongooses/promethean pistol/suppressor or an scoped ar. You grind to get another but it is the same. You stop grinding, you decide to buy a golden pack to speed things up but theres this bundles more golden packs mean more probabilities to get this cool weapons. You get the certifications of some weapons but then you need to buy or grind for another gold pack to get the weapons you certified because you already use the three weapons that came with the certification. You buy more more more because grinding to be able to buy a single golden pack doesnt give all the weapons I want to use.
The memories of reach pack comes. it cost 120000 req points with boost you get 4000-5000 req points per game. Would you grind 20 warzone games to buy 1 reach pack of seven? Nah, I will buy them.
The grind in Halo 5 is tiresome. I had to grind for 600000 req points to be able to get 15 banshees, 10 wasps and two mantises. I used them. Do I have grind again that much to be able to use a banshee? I’ve seen youtubers with 300 whiplashes/banshees and another weapons/vehicles. They have the upper hand against me, against a person that cant spend his hard earned money in req packs. My friend is 144 and he only has 30 whiplashes by grinding. He hasnt buy a single golden pack with microtransactions.
That is warzone, that it is the microtransaction system 343 shoved us. This is Halo 5 now.
I’ve played halo by myself since CE and with my friend since halo 3. We often talk about how this game gives us too many insatisfactions. We even agree we had more fun playing hacked mw2 than warzone. My chances to buy halo 6 are zero.
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> If you have that many issues with warzone there are plenty of other modes to play that don’t do any of the things you complained about
Of all I wrote this is your answer? YK2 I know there are other modes but warzone was my main mode. Thats why I stated those complaints. As others I’m sure warzone is their main mode and I sure you some share the same complaints and we are here to improve future games.
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> If you have that many issues with warzone there are plenty of other modes to play that don’t do any of the things you complained about
Its not just Warzone it’s the entire game. Every aspect of it sucks. Even after countless updates there is little if anything to be excited about. I don’t play Warzone but the affects of its reqs bleed through to Arena, making it suck even more. I could rip this game 10 -Yoink- holes but it won’t matter. H5 is easily the worst entry in the series.
Don’t like getting one hit killed use upgraded shields or use thusters to get out of the way or use a weapon to kill them quickly, rail gun, the answer, rockets. Sounds to me warzone is a bit to complicated for you. You have to think tactically in warzone. Also warzone is about fun and using powerful weapons. Don’t like it… Play arena… I don’t like swat… I think it defeats the purpose of playing a game like Halo. I don’t complain about it, I just don’t play that game mode.
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> > If you have that many issues with warzone there are plenty of other modes to play that don’t do any of the things you complained about
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> Its not just Warzone it’s the entire game. Every aspect of it sucks. Even after countless updates there is little if anything to be excited about. I don’t play Warzone but the affects of its reqs bleed through to Arena, making it suck even more. I could rip this game 10 -Yoink- holes but it won’t matter. H5 is easily the worst entry in the series.
Why you guys play something that doesn’t like you I don’t understand
>To make us spend money
Gotta disagree with you here. You can obtain just about everything this game has to offer up to this point without spending a single dollar on micro-transactions. They give you an option to spend money if you choose to do so if, ya know, just playing the game is too much of a grind, but they certainly aren’t forcing it on you. Now, if someone feels the need to spend money so they can feel like they can compete, I have a hard time believing that they consider themselves a not-so-competitive player.
But anyway, from my perspective, you sound like a guy who dies a ton in Warzone (and probably loses a lot) and you’re just frustrated because of that, and the stuff you pointed out in your post was a way to cover that up without actually saying it. I don’t blame you. Games are enjoyable when you’re winning. Not so much when you’re losing.
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> > If you have that many issues with warzone there are plenty of other modes to play that don’t do any of the things you complained about
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> Its not just Warzone it’s the entire game. Every aspect of it sucks. Even after countless updates there is little if anything to be excited about. I don’t play Warzone but the affects of its reqs bleed through to Arena, making it suck even more. I could rip this game 10 -Yoink- holes but it won’t matter. H5 is easily the worst entry in the series.
Yup. I agree. I’m on the grind for 152 but I gave up on WZ a long time ago because there are way too many one hit kill weapons. So I go to arena where I get less req points per game so it takes longer to open packs. Then when I open packs, easily 75% of the XP boosts are for war zone. Or ill get an arena RP boost. I have all the reqs unlocked. I dont needs RP boosts. I need XP so I can level up. WZ absolutely bleeds into arena in that aspect. Plus theres a bunch of these modified weapons in arena now. Silenced ARs and upgraded storm rifles and suppressors. Microtransactions will be the death of halo. You should earn unlockables (like the Achilles set, or Timmy helmet) not spend money or play a trashy playlist like WZ.
You guys know you cant just instantly spawn 1 shot weapons right? You need to unlock the REQ level required and have REQ energy to spawn them in, so how do you think they got to spawn them in? They got enough Kills/Assists to do so with their loadout weapons. Each Loadout weapon can easily be used to get kills, Fusion Bolt ARs for Vehicles, BRs or Magnum for Ranged Kills, you can easily get level 4 Reqs with this were you can spawn Blood of Suban, SPlazers, Shotguns, its how you use the weapons. If really want to gamble for better weapons use the random weapon REQS, hell i normally go Pistol only until Level 6 Reqs so I can spawn a sniper. This post really just seems like you struggle in WZ so just get better theres a ton of youtubers with tip videos so I suggest you watch them.
In regards to the P2P thing thats BS, you can RP playing any playlist wether it Super Fiesta / Ranked / FireFight, some give more some give less, if you want to grind or pay to get packs thats on you no one else. Personally I don’t see why everyone wants to grind for the unlockables or SR152, it doesn’t feel very rewarding to me as compared to getting Onyx or Grinding for Champion, but that’s just me.
ok so the sword ahs been in the game literally since it first launched. I think that’s it’s cool that 343 added different variations of it to warzone. - I don’t know where youre going with the “sprint, slide ,etc” stuff as you can do that regardless of what weapon you have. as far as the bayonets go, they can be countered in a number of ways. theyre not as op as you think they are. - as far as the AR scopes go they can be very useful. they increase the accuracy of the at and reduce spread. they are most useful in WZFF. besides if you don’t like it then simply don’t use it. - yeah there are a lot of things in the req system but that is good. I would’ve stopped playing the game long ago if I had gotten all the things so quickly, the req system adds longevity to the game. - the microtransactions are there because we get free DLC, no one MAKES you buy anything. - each variant of the mongoose, gungoose, and warthogs have slightly better armour than the last, I have tested this myself. - I’m reading how you bought gold packs and obviously no one told you that there is a proper way to do it. you clearly did not do it the poper way as a ascoped at is common req, if done correctly you should only get ultra rare and legendary out of gold. - clearly youre just upset about microtansactions but I have a friend who is in the 140’s and has hundreds of power weapons. he didn’t but any packs with money. you just didn’t how to properly grind. that’s not anyone’s fault but your own
I’m reading words that say microtransactions are bad, and one-shot-one-kill weapons are everywhere, and motion mechanics make those osok weapons even more of a problem. But what I feel like I’m really getting out of the post is that you just don’t like Halo 5 gameplay all that much. And I sympathize. If thruster (and pound and charge and slide and clamber) went away tomorrow I would not miss them one single bit. And hell yes, I’d like to play a power-weapon-free and vehicle-free Warzone variant. And who knows? Maybe Halo 6 will bring something like that. And yes, there’s a lot of room for improvement in the way the req system is handled, but I wouldn’t really say the system as it currently stands is game-breaking, or that it creates a have- and have-not population cleft. I’ve never bought a req pack ever, and I sell back about half of the things I get through game play and I still don’t find WZ to be unplayable. Close sometimes. Painfully close. But ultimately not unplayable.
In the mean time, as others have said, if you’re having to buy reqs in order to feel competitive then you’re definitely doing something wrong. Not sure what, but something.
When the game launched there were probably less than half the total reqs there are now. At launch it seemed reasonable to play long enough to unlock everything (and I have). It’s totally different now. There are hundreds of reqs. A new player entering warzone is going to get wrecked for many months by people who have everything before they can fight back with an equal arsenal. Yes they can play and unlock stuff, but how many times will they get shot in the face with a Nornfang before they either pay up or just quit Halo? That’s just the pay-to-compete aspect. Think about what a constant flow of one hit kill reqs did to the play style of warzone. Did you see any threads about how people stated they enjoyed the fact that the req system was down half the weekend? Some people like myself enjoyed actual gun fights instead of a “Super Fiesta” style experience where it’s just cheap kills and deaths. The overpowered weapons also created the need for bullet sponge bosses like the mantis on Noctus. You will not kill that thing with a BR ever. So yeah the entire req system has aged poorly. The first couple of months were good, but it’s grown into a monstrosity.
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> When the game launched there were probably less than half the total reqs there are now. At launch it seemed reasonable to play long enough to unlock everything (and I have). It’s totally different now. There are hundreds of reqs. A new player entering warzone is going to get wrecked for many months by people who have everything before they can fight back with an equal arsenal. Yes they can play and unlock stuff, but how many times will they get shot in the face with a Nornfang before they either pay up or just quit Halo? That’s just the pay-to-compete aspect. Think about what a constant flow of one hit kill reqs did to the play style of warzone. Did you see any threads about how people stated they enjoyed the fact that the req system was down half the weekend? Some people like myself enjoyed actual gun fights instead of a “Super Fiesta” style experience where it’s just cheap kills and deaths. The overpowered weapons also created the need for bullet sponge bosses like the mantis on Noctus. You will not kill that thing with a BR ever. So yeah the entire req system has aged poorly. The first couple of months were good, but it’s grown into a monstrosity.
I would say if you don’t like reqs why are you in warzone? Also I would tell a new player to grind out rp for packs in Warzone firefight. Just as good RP payout without having to compete against players with a stacked req inventory.
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> > When the game launched there were probably less than half the total reqs there are now. At launch it seemed reasonable to play long enough to unlock everything (and I have). It’s totally different now. There are hundreds of reqs. A new player entering warzone is going to get wrecked for many months by people who have everything before they can fight back with an equal arsenal. Yes they can play and unlock stuff, but how many times will they get shot in the face with a Nornfang before they either pay up or just quit Halo? That’s just the pay-to-compete aspect. Think about what a constant flow of one hit kill reqs did to the play style of warzone. Did you see any threads about how people stated they enjoyed the fact that the req system was down half the weekend? Some people like myself enjoyed actual gun fights instead of a “Super Fiesta” style experience where it’s just cheap kills and deaths. The overpowered weapons also created the need for bullet sponge bosses like the mantis on Noctus. You will not kill that thing with a BR ever. So yeah the entire req system has aged poorly. The first couple of months were good, but it’s grown into a monstrosity.
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> I would say if you don’t like reqs why are you in warzone? Also I would tell a new player to grind out rp for packs in Warzone firefight. Just as good RP payout without having to compete against players with a stacked req inventory.
I rarely play warzone. For the first few months that’s pretty much all I played, but it isnt what it was back then. I’m not against all reqs, I just think 343 carried it too far.
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> > If you have that many issues with warzone there are plenty of other modes to play that don’t do any of the things you complained about
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> Of all I wrote this is your answer? YK2 I know there are other modes but warzone was my main mode. Thats why I stated those complaints. As others I’m sure warzone is their main mode and I sure you some share the same complaints and we are here to improve future games.
I also just don’t think the things you complained about are exactly problems. Aside from the REQ packs anyway. But who cares if there are four energy swords? Or 3 hydras? Each variant is fun and different and changes up the gameplay. Does it really affect you that there are 5 different mongooses, or 6 different mantises? They provide variety and allow for a certain amount of player expression seeing as they can choose their favorite skin of whatever vehicle they choose. It’s not to say warzone is perfect, I don’t particularly enjoy it. I just think the things you’re complaining about aren’t what’s wrong with warzone. Except energy bayonets and long range ARs. Those can go away and never come back.
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> > If you have that many issues with warzone there are plenty of other modes to play that don’t do any of the things you complained about
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> Its not just Warzone it’s the entire game. Every aspect of it sucks. Even after countless updates there is little if anything to be excited about. I don’t play Warzone but the affects of its reqs bleed through to Arena, making it suck even more. I could rip this game 10 -Yoink- holes but it won’t matter. H5 is easily the worst entry in the series.
That’s your opinion. I really quite enjoy the game. I don’t even particularly like warzone, but I like the REQ weapons. I think they’re fun and add variety. I don’t see how REQs somehow ruin arena for you seeing as there are no REQs in arena.
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> > > If you have that many issues with warzone there are plenty of other modes to play that don’t do any of the things you complained about
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> > Its not just Warzone it’s the entire game. Every aspect of it sucks. Even after countless updates there is little if anything to be excited about. I don’t play Warzone but the affects of its reqs bleed through to Arena, making it suck even more. I could rip this game 10 -Yoink- holes but it won’t matter. H5 is easily the worst entry in the series.
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> That’s your opinion. I really quite enjoy the game. I don’t even particularly like warzone, but I like the REQ weapons. I think they’re fun and add variety. I don’t see how REQs somehow ruin arena for you seeing as there are no REQs in arena.
Obviously it’s my opinion but I’m sure as hell not alone about it. Req weapons in Arena -Yoink!- the already flawed experience. Their addition which is nothing more then a gimmick typically replace better weapons that actually deserve their place in Arena. Armor can’t be unlocked by achievements anymore. Now it takes luck from an RNG system that makes attaining any armor worthless.
It’s not just Warzone or reqs that ruin H5. As I said before it is every aspect of the game. There may be no Req cards in Arena but the affects of the req system are undeniable. The nature of H5s countless flaws and how not “Halo” this game is are well documented in these forums. I’m glad you like it though
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> > > > If you have that many issues with warzone there are plenty of other modes to play that don’t do any of the things you complained about
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> > > Its not just Warzone it’s the entire game. Every aspect of it sucks. Even after countless updates there is little if anything to be excited about. I don’t play Warzone but the affects of its reqs bleed through to Arena, making it suck even more. I could rip this game 10 -Yoink- holes but it won’t matter. H5 is easily the worst entry in the series.
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> > That’s your opinion. I really quite enjoy the game. I don’t even particularly like warzone, but I like the REQ weapons. I think they’re fun and add variety. I don’t see how REQs somehow ruin arena for you seeing as there are no REQs in arena.
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> Obviously it’s my opinion but I’m sure as hell not alone about it. Req weapons in Arena -Yoink!- the already flawed experience. Their addition which is nothing more then a gimmick typically replace better weapons that actually deserve their place in Arena. Armor can’t be unlocked by achievements anymore. Now it takes luck from an RNG system that makes attaining any armor worthless.
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> It’s not just Warzone or reqs that ruin H5. As I said before it is every aspect of the game. There may be no Req cards in Arena but the affects of the req system are undeniable. The nature of H5s countless flaws and how not “Halo” this game is are well documented in these forums. I’m glad you like it though
Please explain how there are REQ weapons in Arena? I hardly think GF Mags, Silenced AR and Tac Mags count as you need to pick them up, Tac Mags also work well with the HCS Radar and in Dubz, were hiding your position is key to winning. An opinion without Justification or Reasoning is like a clean fart, we all hear it but no one gives a damn because it doesn’t linger or make a stink.
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> > > > If you have that many issues with warzone there are plenty of other modes to play that don’t do any of the things you complained about
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> > > Its not just Warzone it’s the entire game. Every aspect of it sucks. Even after countless updates there is little if anything to be excited about. I don’t play Warzone but the affects of its reqs bleed through to Arena, making it suck even more. I could rip this game 10 -Yoink- holes but it won’t matter. H5 is easily the worst entry in the series.
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> > That’s your opinion. I really quite enjoy the game. I don’t even particularly like warzone, but I like the REQ weapons. I think they’re fun and add variety. I don’t see how REQs somehow ruin arena for you seeing as there are no REQs in arena.
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> Obviously it’s my opinion but I’m sure as hell not alone about it. Req weapons in Arena -Yoink!- the already flawed experience. Their addition which is nothing more then a gimmick typically replace better weapons that actually deserve their place in Arena. Armor can’t be unlocked by achievements anymore. Now it takes luck from an RNG system that makes attaining any armor worthless.
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> It’s not just Warzone or reqs that ruin H5. As I said before it is every aspect of the game. There may be no Req cards in Arena but the affects of the req system are undeniable. The nature of H5s countless flaws and how not “Halo” this game is are well documented in these forums. I’m glad you like it though
I don’t know of any REQ weapons inside of ranked arena. In social arena some REQs are placed on maps but honestly what’s wrong with that? They’re power weapons essentially and they’re fun to use. I agree that the REQ system itself is a major flaw but the weapons and vehicles inside it are a fun addition. The REQ system sucks but it doesn’t affect gameplay outside of warzone.
I also agree that obtaining armor is cheap and worthless because of the REQ system, but that’s just one reason of many that the system is bad.
I just happen to enjoy the weapon and vehicle variants, and find the gameplay enjoyable. And I know that I’m not alone in that opinion.
For one thing I’ve never bought a single req pack to up my arsenal, I just played to earn them all, and feel accomplished about it. However I did buy the DLC req pack to allow different voice commentators, cause what can I say I can’t give up Nathan Fillion as a commentator while I am destroying people, and that is the only thing that you can earn while you’re are playing.
The next thing that you should probably accept while playing warzone and some other games, is that when you play massive war game battles the reality of things is that sometimes you are going to have to play against people who better gear than you, that is the way of life. Granted Halo does a pretty good job in making the concept that you have play good to get better items and earn them in a match, and even when you do you have to use req points to buy items in the match for only one life and than people can pick up what gear you had. It balances itself very well in the long run, but variety makes things different and unique, and different and unique makes a game more exciting.
Some things aren’t worth complaining about, as it would be more negative than positive in the long run. My suggestion is accept the challenges in life and in the game that you love to play, when it comes to certain things.