343's dedicated servers have gone to far!

For a while now, I’ve had an extremely strong feeling toward Halo 5’s dedicated servers, and how as a result, you can’t do anything but solo campaign without a Gold subscription. In my opinion, requiring Gold for Forge is the biggest mistake 343 made. Because of this, I haven’t been able to enjoy Halo 5 to even a fraction of the levels of fun I had in previous titles. As someone who doesn’t have the money to spend freely on games and gold, It is not worth my money to pay 60 dollars to forge, especially when forge has always been an offline option, and I find that rather disappointing because forge has always been my go-to option (and source of fun) in Halo.

While I think that dedicated servers are great, and they should be offered to those with a Gold subscription, they should not be a necessity for me to enjoy my favorite franchise. All I want is for forge to be made available offline, because I’d rather host the forge game myself than pay an extra 60 dollars to enjoy a feature that should already be in the game.

Agreed. Although I have good Internet and an auto renewing gold subscription, I don’t think it’s fair that those who don’t can’t enjoy the game the way they used to.

Features and game modes that have been available for local play should remain so. Forcing people to have online is a slap in the face to all fans.

Just curious,

How do you have the money to buy an xbox and games but not to buy xbox live for a year?

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> Just curious,
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> How do you have the money to buy an xbox and games but not to buy xbox live for a year?

Oh how witty. He shouldn’t have to. Why can’t people just respond normally on these post instead of practicing their passive sarcasm or failed comedy routine. Now hurry up and respond with something clever so you don’t have look so stupid.

I’m with OP, but what’s worse is that in 10 or so years when XB1 loses online support, all those maps we worked so hard on will disappear into the grave of a dead server taking everything else but campaign with it, while every bit of Reach will remain intact forever. I hate this new online only trend in Halo.

Forge should not need gold

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> I’m with OP, but what’s worse is that in 10 or so years when XB1 loses online support, all those maps we worked so hard on will disappear into the grave of a dead server taking everything else but campaign with it, while every bit of Reach will remain intact forever. I hate this new online only trend in Halo.

This is exactly how I feel. I’m fine with the game data being on a server and all but I’m old fashioned I guess with expecting a local copy as well. Never thought I’d call myself old fashioned at this age.

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> I’m with OP, but what’s worse is that in 10 or so years when XB1 loses online support, all those maps we worked so hard on will disappear into the grave of a dead server taking everything else but campaign with it, while every bit of Reach will remain intact forever. I hate this new online only trend in Halo.

Mate, I’ve been saying this since these dedicated servers have been acting up. I used to be indifferent about the servers previously, but after Xbox Live has been having issues, I thought about the servers and came to the conclusion that Halo 5 has diminishing value. In 10 or 20 years, when the servers are shut off, I can’t play the multiplayer with friends on my couch. I can’t load up Forge and make an epic map. I’m stuck with the mediocre campaign. Whereas, the old games, because they are not online only, I can play those with friends for as long as my Xbox 360 doesn’t RROD.

They should allow some offline functionality. I believe MS is more to blame here.

I agree with the OP. And to be honest I totally never thought about the fact all our content is server based. Once the game is gone from there we are out of luck! I got the Halo guardians edition console and game. I was totally bummed out when there was no disc but a digital code to down load it. They slowly are taking things away from us little by little and we will have nothing to show for it. :-/

Actually it’s not really 343s fault I think… count your lucky stars you can even play campaign offline. Xbox one was going to be and online console only. That meant you needed an internet connection for everything. But gamers raised he’ll and then Microsoft said ok and changed it before launch. How ever I think it was simply to late to change for some of the games and their content. You may as well get used to online only for gaming soon. Also if you can afford an Xbox one and halo 5 clearly you can get Xbox live gold. Also saying it’s $60… yeah ok so it’s only the cost of one game it’s not that expensive.

Title reminds me of those “HAS SCIENCE GONE TOO FAR?” memes.

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> > Just curious,
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> > How do you have the money to buy an xbox and games but not to buy xbox live for a year?
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> Oh how witty. He shouldn’t have to. Why can’t people just respond normally on these post instead of practicing their passive sarcasm or failed comedy routine. Now hurry up and respond with something clever so you don’t have look so stupid.

…???

I was just wondering because he made it sound like he couldn’t afford it. I understand not wanting to have to buy it.

I wasn’t actually being witty or sarcastic, just curious, like I said. Didn’t need to lash out like that, Do you feel proud of yourself?

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> > I’m with OP, but what’s worse is that in 10 or so years when XB1 loses online support, all those maps we worked so hard on will disappear into the grave of a dead server taking everything else but campaign with it, while every bit of Reach will remain intact forever. I hate this new online only trend in Halo.
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> This is exactly how I feel. I’m fine with the game data being on a server and all but I’m old fashioned I guess with expecting a local copy as well. Never thought I’d call myself old fashioned at this age.

Same. If itaint broke, don’t fix it.

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> > > How do you have the money to buy an xbox and games but not to buy xbox live for a year?
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> > Oh how witty. He shouldn’t have to. Why can’t people just respond normally on these post instead of practicing their passive sarcasm or failed comedy routine. Now hurry up and respond with something clever so you don’t have look so stupid.
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> I was just wondering because he made it sound like he couldn’t afford it. I understand not wanting to have to buy it.
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> I wasn’t actually being witty or sarcastic, just curious, like I said. Didn’t need to lash out like that, Do you feel proud of yourself?

I could afford it, but I don’t have so much that I’m willing to put 60 dollars for forge, and I have better things to be spending my money on.

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> Actually it’s not really 343s fault I think… count your lucky stars you can even play campaign offline. Xbox one was going to be and online console only. That meant you needed an internet connection for everything. But gamers raised he’ll and then Microsoft said ok and changed it before launch. How ever I think it was simply to late to change for some of the games and their content. You may as well get used to online only for gaming soon. Also if you can afford an Xbox one and halo 5 clearly you can get Xbox live gold. Also saying it’s $60… yeah ok so it’s only the cost of one game it’s not that expensive.

Yeah, I’ve begun to think that Microsoft is beginning to run Xbox like a dictatorship. As for paying for live, refer to the comment above.

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> > I’m with OP, but what’s worse is that in 10 or so years when XB1 loses online support, all those maps we worked so hard on will disappear into the grave of a dead server taking everything else but campaign with it, while every bit of Reach will remain intact forever. I hate this new online only trend in Halo.
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> Mate, I’ve been saying this since these dedicated servers have been acting up. I used to be indifferent about the servers previously, but after Xbox Live has been having issues, I thought about the servers and came to the conclusion that Halo 5 has diminishing value. In 10 or 20 years, when the servers are shut off, I can’t play the multiplayer with friends on my couch. I can’t load up Forge and make an epic map. I’m stuck with the mediocre campaign. Whereas, the old games, because they are not online only, I can play those with friends for as long as my Xbox 360 doesn’t RROD.

Actually, me having issues with Live are why I ended up making this post. I had decided to use my 1 month trial, and ended up only getting 3 days out of it, which is even more disappointing because I’ve actually had a chance to start forge maps, and see them progress. It’s like the difference between wanting a child, knowing you cant have one, or heaving a child then getting it taken away from you. (That may be an extreme example, but I couldn’t think of another way to describe it.)

So tell me, what will you do with the maps you forge? If you didn’t have online then all you can do is run around an empty map. The real issue is lack of splitscreen and local co op. Otherwise you have no reason to make a post. Xbl costs like £30 a year so there’s no excuse if you have the money for a £300 console and a £60 game .

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> > Just curious,
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> > How do you have the money to buy an xbox and games but not to buy xbox live for a year?
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> Oh how witty. He shouldn’t have to. Why can’t people just respond normally on these post instead of practicing their passive sarcasm or failed comedy routine. Now hurry up and respond with something clever so you don’t have look so stupid.

What was wrong about this post? He pointed out a valid hole in OPs argument and phrased it in a way that would only seem condescending if you, your self know the argument was stupid in the first place

im for sure not well off financially atm but $5 a month is really not that bad for xbl gold
honestly i like not having any peer to peer even for customs and what not

“I could afford it, but I don’t have so much that I’m willing to put 60 dollars for forge, and I have better things to be spending my money on.”

Oh, ok. I thought you were into multiplayer as well. When you said “favorite franchise” I assumed you would be into multiplayer as well.

I tried not to write the question in a sarcastic tone but thanks for not jumping to conclusions like some people.

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> > > How do you have the money to buy an xbox and games but not to buy xbox live for a year?
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> > Oh how witty. He shouldn’t have to. Why can’t people just respond normally on these post instead of practicing their passive sarcasm or failed comedy routine. Now hurry up and respond with something clever so you don’t have look so stupid.
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> What was wrong about this post? He pointed out a valid hole in OPs argument and phrased it in a way that would only seem condescending if you, your self know the argument was stupid in the first place

Thanks man. Some people need to think before they speak, and take a chill pill.

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> > Just curious,
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> > How do you have the money to buy an xbox and games but not to buy xbox live for a year?
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> Oh how witty. He shouldn’t have to. Why can’t people just respond normally on these post instead of practicing their passive sarcasm or failed comedy routine. Now hurry up and respond with something clever so you don’t have look so stupid.

“don’t have look so stupid.”

talk about butchering it m8.

meh