343i -Yoinked!- up. It makes me sad that Halo is now dead and that it was taken down by people that don’t like it changing the gameplay. I really don’t understand why some of you people are on these forums. You come here and preach how the core of Halo is bad and how they basically need to turn it into a new -Yoinking!- game. I don’t get it. I really don’t. If you don’t like what Halo is then why are you trying to ruin Halo? Why don’t you go play a different game?
All I’ve seen in the beta is camping with over powered automatic weapons that they don’t even need to aim. The maps are blown up so big that there is no cover at all, movement while in combat is nonexistent, and kill times are about 60% of what they used to be.
I tried to like the beta. I put like 50 games into it and went into every game with the mentality that this would be the one that make me like this game, but instead I was greeted with more camping and more bull -Yoink-. I have now decided that unless they change things drastically that this will be the last Halo game that I will buy. The franchise is now dead.
Now I know that a lot of you white knights are going to come out here and say, “good riddance.” But do you really mean that? You want people that have been loyal to the series to be alienated and have them filled in with people that will play the game for no longer than a month or two? If you do you are an idiot.
There always has been a certain extent of camping in halo. Whether your control an area or waiting for a power weapon to be spawned… Stop running in like Rambo. Rambos get Ls and teammates get Ws
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> There always has been a certain extent of camping in halo. Whether your control an area or waiting for a power weapon to be spawned… Stop running in like Rambo. Rambos get Ls and teammates get Ws
I don’t even lose that much, and I have like a 2.5 kd. I’m not bad, it’s just not fun.
What’s especially frustrating is that for YEARS, we were pleading to them to return Halo to its roots and explained in detail how much we disliked almost every aspect that was changed for Halo 4.
What do they do?
They make Halo 5 even less similar to the originals. They keep sprint after the majority showed a distaste for it. They don’t add (from what we know) a 1-50 ranking system. They didn’t listen at all, and I find it very annoying.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they introduced Armor Lock as an additional ability, and no-flag-drop in CTF again. They always seem to do the opposite of what people want, despite being given ample feedback.
343 should’ve made their own franchise, and MS should’ve given Halo to people who actually liked Halo.
The way I see it, it’s like I was hired by Ford to head the design of the new Mustang. I accept the job, and then I decide that the new Mustang is going to be a FWD Hatchback with a 1.5L NA 4 Cylinder Engine. Nothing wrong with those kinds of cars, but that’s not what Mustangs are, and that’s not what Mustang fans would want.
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> What’s especially frustrating is that for YEARS, we were pleading to them to return Halo to its roots and explained in detail how much we disliked almost every aspect that was changed for Halo 4.
> What do they do?
> They make Halo 5 even less similar to the originals. They keep sprint after the majority showed a distaste for it. They don’t add (from what we know) a 1-50 ranking system. They didn’t listen at all, and I find it very perplexing.
> I wouldn’t be surprised if they introduced Armor Lock as an additional ability, and no-flag-drop in CTF again. They always seem to do the opposite of what people want, despite being given ample feedback.
They have no clue how to interact with a community, hell at every turn they seem to try to push their community away.
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> What’s especially frustrating is that for YEARS, we were pleading to them to return Halo to its roots and explained in detail how much we disliked almost every aspect that was changed for Halo 4.
> What do they do?
> They make Halo 5 even less similar to the originals. They keep sprint after the majority showed a distaste for it. They don’t add (from what we know) a 1-50 ranking system. They didn’t listen at all, and I find it very annoying.
> I wouldn’t be surprised if they introduced Armor Lock as an additional ability, and no-flag-drop in CTF again. They always seem to do the opposite of what people want, despite being given ample feedback.
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> 343 should’ve made their own franchise, and MS should’ve given Halo to people who actually liked Halo.
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> > What’s especially frustrating is that for YEARS, we were pleading to them to return Halo to its roots and explained in detail how much we disliked almost every aspect that was changed for Halo 4.
> > What do they do?
> > They make Halo 5 even less similar to the originals. They keep sprint after the majority showed a distaste for it. They don’t add (from what we know) a 1-50 ranking system. They didn’t listen at all, and I find it very perplexing.
> > I wouldn’t be surprised if they introduced Armor Lock as an additional ability, and no-flag-drop in CTF again. They always seem to do the opposite of what people want, despite being given ample feedback.
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> They have no clue how to interact with a community, hell at every turn they seem to try to push their community away.
The BETA was released a year before launch because they want to ensure that they can take the feedback seriously and actually apply some big changes.
Now’s your chance, 343.
Remove Sprint and redesign the maps to compensate for its removal. I bet you won’t. You’re probably going to continue following your own ideas, and use the BETA to tweak things that would be tweaked from a normal 2-month before launch BETA.
Just because you feel like 343 didn’t listen to the vocal minority (Majority? Yeah, right) doesn’t mean they didn’t. Halo 5 is far more similar to Halo 2-3 than Halo 4 was. The Majority did not show distaste for sprint or AAs. Halo 5 is a compromise between New Gen Halo and Old School Halo. If it’s a compromise you’re not willing to make, see you on the MCC.
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> Just because you feel like 343 didn’t listen to the vocal minority (Majority? Yeah, right) doesn’t mean they didn’t. Halo 5 is far more similar to Halo 2-3 than Halo 4 was. The Majority did not show distaste for sprint or AAs. Halo 5 is a compromise between New Gen Halo and Old School Halo. If it’s a compromise you’re not willing to make, see you on the MCC.
People keep saying the forum-users aren’t the majority, blah blah.
Why do you assume the opinions of the forum-users do not match the opinions of the silent ones?
If 80% of the people on the forums do not like Sprint, I’m pretty sure close to 80% of the rest of the world also doesn’t. The ratios/averages are probably very similar.
How else are we supposed to gather thoughts and come to a consensus?
Is your idea to take the majority-opinion of the forums and then do the exact opposite? Are you suggesting that every person who doesn’t use the forums will have the exact opposite opinion of those who do? Come on; your argument makes no sense.
Sorry for getting off topic:
As for your main point, I disagree; it doesn’t feel like Halo at all.
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> > There always has been a certain extent of camping in halo. Whether your control an area or waiting for a power weapon to be spawned… Stop running in like Rambo. Rambos get Ls and teammates get Ws
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> I don’t even lose that much, and I have like a 2.5 kd. I’m not bad, it’s just not fun.
so you do well, and win. But don’t enjoy it because it was a fair fight where everyone has the same tricks and toys? You say people camp with op automatics yet there’s no cover… Where are they camping then? You say there’s no movement in combat? Yet I feel I have to move more when I play. Yes there’s sprint and thrusters, sorry they aren’t going anywhere and unlike in reach and 4 sprint is balanced, thrusters have won me more close range fights with the Br v an ar than I would have without it.
honestly its about as close to your precious ‘classic’ halo as you are going to get, if its not for you then that’s your problem. I am enjoying the 2 maps and 7 weapons of this BETA more than I enjoy halo CE through 4 multiplayer as the game runs smoother (for me) than the old games but is more balanced than reach/4. All I need is a team so I’m not matched with feeding randoms and I’ll be happy
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> Just because you feel like 343 didn’t listen to the vocal minority (Majority? Yeah, right) doesn’t mean they didn’t. Halo 5 is far more similar to Halo 2-3 than Halo 4 was. The Majority did not show distaste for sprint or AAs. Halo 5 is a compromise between New Gen Halo and Old School Halo. If it’s a compromise you’re not willing to make, see you on the MCC.
At its core 4 felt like Halo. Sure infinity was a little off, but that was its own game mode, similar to swat, or snipers. Basic slayer felt like Halo2/Halo3 with sprint and some little tweaks.
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> so you do well, and win. But don’t enjoy it because it was a fair fight where everyone has the same tricks and toys? You say people camp with op automatics yet there’s no cover… Where are they camping then? You say there’s no movement in combat? Yet I feel I have to move more when I play. Yes there’s sprint and thrusters, sorry they aren’t going anywhere and unlike in reach and 4 sprint is balanced, thrusters have won me more close range fights with the Br v an ar than I would have without it.
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> honestly its about as close to your precious ‘classic’ halo as you are going to get, if its not for you then that’s your problem. I am enjoying the 2 maps and 7 weapons of this BETA more than I enjoy halo CE through 4 multiplayer as the game runs smoother (for me) than the old games but is more balanced than reach/4. All I need is a team so I’m not matched with feeding randoms and I’ll be happy
That is exactly what my point was earlier. You don’t like Halo, you just admitted it, yet you come on here and criticise me when I say it doesn’t feel enough like Halo. If you don’t like CE-4 and you like 5 then doesn’t that prove my point?
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> so you do well, and win. But don’t enjoy it because it was a fair fight where everyone has the same tricks and toys? You say people camp with op automatics yet there’s no cover… Where are they camping then? You say there’s no movement in combat? Yet I feel I have to move more when I play. Yes there’s sprint and thrusters, sorry they aren’t going anywhere and unlike in reach and 4 sprint is balanced, thrusters have won me more close range fights with the Br v an ar than I would have without it.
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> honestly its about as close to your precious ‘classic’ halo as you are going to get, if its not for you then that’s your problem. I am enjoying the 2 maps and 7 weapons of this BETA more than I enjoy halo CE through 4 multiplayer as the game runs smoother (for me) than the old games but is more balanced than reach/4. All I need is a team so I’m not matched with feeding randoms and I’ll be happy
Now that kill times are close to half what they used to be (even in 4) It is much easier to camp power weapon spawn, especially sense they tell you when the damn things spawn. There is still cover, no where did I say that there wasn’t, I said maps were blown up, and they are. Truth is over twice the size of Midship, and it is either open space or rooms. You try to move across the map, you get killed because the new starting weapon is a pin point accurate automatic that kills in under a second. Even at mid range. So they camp a room, and spam automatic weapons at you from across the map. I think what you actually want is a new game. I don’t think you want Halo. You said that you don’t like it so why do you come here and ruin what people love?!
