There are a lot of threads on waypoint about how people in EU, South America, Australia and New Zealand cannot find ANY games at certain times.
I find it pretty bad that 343i will respond to Reddit but not the official halo forums.
Heres the Reddit thread about the atrocious region lock that stops us playing at all:
That’s because these forums are full of nonsense, while Reddit is much less…volatile.
But we can try to be better if we stop what we do.#wesuck
Because Waypoint is full of people who insult others and stat-flame, and complain whenever 343i does something or doesn’t do something, and want ridiculous requests like make the CE Pistol, a power weapon, a permanent loadout because “nostalgia”.
There’s a reason why they always posted at NeoGAF
Probably just more players using reddit than waypoint
You guys say it is because we are volatile, yet that doesn’t stop Frankie or Josh Holmes from going to Team Beyond’s Forums. That doesn’t cut it.
I’m glad they don’t, wouldn’t want them getting stupid ideas from some of the stupid -Yoink- posted on here daily.
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Sure ignore your own forum… that makes sense
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Pretty much this. Waypoint is toxic.
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Reddit is toxic too. Everywhere are people that misbehave out of spite, downvote and hate on each other. Not a single post of mine (on old and new account) did not get downvoted on reddit to -2 before some people upvoted again. It’s can be totally insane there if you happen to be “caught” by the wrong people.
343 avoided reddit like hell when people posted stuff about the MCC daily. Bravo avoids any question or follow-ups to one of his comments if it’s about the MCC or stuff that could be worked on/ some nice sounding ideas. I have yet to hear about black undersuits after one twitter post months ago, same goes for file share/browser, company implementation and UI overhaul. It’s just easier to pick out where you wanna show presence, and where not.
Here however people don’t go out of their way to say what displeases them as reddit’s users, don’t share stuff from gameplay as frequently, which is always to make a comment on as a community manager or make shout outs to the HCS which helps 343 a bunch. Also and very importantly, communication is just much easier on reddit, you immediately get notified if someone answered your post or mentioned your username. Here’s nothing like that, you need to actively follow a thread to catch stuff directed at you.
All in all, I totally get it why they don’t even try to talk to any people on here and let the monitors handle everything. Not saying that it doesn’t suck, I can’t believe they avoid waypoint, their own -Yoink!- forum, as much as they do, but in the end it kinda makes sense.
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> You guys say it is because we are volatile, yet that doesn’t stop Frankie or Josh Holmes from going to Team Beyond’s Forums. That doesn’t cut it.
Brav doesn’t come here or Beyond, only Reddit. Frankie makes appearances on NeoGaf. Josh steps into Beyond on occasion. Mostly personal preference there.
Now, I don’t go to Beyond often. Only times I do is when someone links a 343 response on their forums. And when Josh does respond on the forums, I have seen the posts following his comment as mild thank yous and casual questions.
Here, whenever 343 comments, they are almost immediately swarmed with outrageous requests, hate, insults… mixed in with the thanks and such, but those are drowned out. Waypoint is undoubtedly the most volatile of the bunch.
When people constantly bash 343 and talk about how much they suck, I don’t think I would really feel like coming to this site either.
Because the people on here are whining idiots 99% of the time
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> - I do not buy the toxicity arguments many make, there is the same amount of complaining, crying, trolling, negativity etc on reddit, twitter, et al.
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> - There are plenty of programs, that distribute one message to multiple comm channels (Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Waypoint) to make it easy for them to communicate.
Second class? More like 3rd to 4th. There’s presence by 343 employees both on Twitter and Team Beyond too. It’s definitely:
Anytime I see one of these threads I’m reminded of this:
Hi- What’s up?
But in all honestly, 343i very rarely posts on Waypoint and they should start paying more attention to the community here.
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> 343 avoided reddit like hell when people posted stuff about the MCC daily. Bravo avoids any question or follow-ups to one of his comments if it’s about the MCC or stuff that could be worked on/ some nice sounding ideas. I have yet to hear about black undersuits after one twitter post months ago, same goes for file share/browser, company implementation and UI overhaul. It’s just easier to pick out where you wanna show presence, and where not.
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> Here however people don’t go out of their way to say what displeases them as reddit’s users, don’t share stuff from gameplay as frequently, which is always to make a comment on as a community manager or make shout outs to the HCS which helps 343 a bunch. Also and very importantly, communication is just much easier on reddit, you immediately get notified if someone answered your post or mentioned your username. Here’s nothing like that, you need to actively follow a thread to catch stuff directed at you.
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Remember when people were saying they quit halo 5’s forge because the controls were different? There might’ve been that stuff on Reddit, I probably just didn’t look hard enough. Like you said, I think there’s more negativity here because there aren’t as many gameplay videos for people to watch.
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This old thread really proves nothing. Op is right.
Good for them. These forums are full of negativity.
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This