343i PLEASE READ. Changes and ideas for the future of the multiplayer

Reposting due to errors and I’ve added things.

Much like my other post I’ll try to be as succinct as possible and keep each dot point brief. After playing daily since the BETA launch we’ve all had issues, feedback and ideas. Most i agree with and some I don’t but overall these things, that should have already been in the game, NEED to be in the game either by the 8th of December or in season 1 for the game to survive the modern gaming climate and reach the 10 year goal that 343 have mentioned.

Halo store credits and Battle pass

I get it, it’s F2P but please allow players to earn credits in game. 5 credits per match, 15 credits for a win. This will entice players to play the objective and also give them something to aim for in the store. Still charge money for the premium battle pass for all the progression unlocks but allow credit rewards so free players can buy items/bundles from the store and when/if they want the premium battle pass then they give cash. At the moment being a free player means almost nothing for the individuals customisation.

Experience and progression

  • Per match XP: 100xp per game played and an additional 50xp for a victory. This will entice players to actually play the objective.
  • Reward Skillful play: 1xp per objective tick (seconds holding the ball for example) 5xp per kill, 10xp per medal, 20xp for a flag. this gives players a reward for playing well AND playing the objectives.
  • Keep challenges as is: I know many don’t like them but a lot of the issue with them are having to do XYZ but never getting those modes so other suggestions below should help make challenges more doable.
  • Boosts: Have boosts work for the next 8 completed challenges. Not time based.

Menu Options

  • Game mode selection: Allowing players to queue for whatever game mode they wish allows them to choose what they need for any given challenge instead of the current system of needing to play 3 oddball games and only seeing 1 through quick play in a 4hr session.
  • Region selection: I cannot believe this isn’t already in place. I’m an aussie playing on either a 30ms game or a 180ms game. Either let us select our own preferred region or lock us to our region via IP tracking.
  • Optional Cross Platform: I’m a PC player and It’s pretty insane to me that Console players are forced to play against KB/M. Allow players to choose if they want PC only, Console only or cross platform play. Or even an input selection for example matching controllers only.
  • Stat tracking and overall progress: Please give us a stats card so we can look at our overall stats of wins, kills, medals and so on.
  • BR/AR starts in BTB: I prefer the AR starts of BTB but at least give an in menu option for people to start with the BR in BTB.
  • Player reporting : I’m not sure why this isn’t in since it’s clear 343 are trying to limit the toxic interactions by removing all chat. Which is fine, but please let use report afk’ers and clear hackers that are already in the game.

Spartan Customisation

I'll start this section with a caveat that i'm assuming the bare bones options we have now will be greatly fleshed out post launch and across seasons.
  • Cross core This is a no brainer. locking parts, colours and options into cores is a very stupid system and completely undermines what you’re going for in the first place for ‘millions of combinations’
  • Colours: Take what you perfected in the MCC and give us that.
  • Body shape: Again, make it mean something, use the MCC method.

Core Gameplay

  • Player Collision: We all want it, please just turn it on. This isn’t a divisive issue, the overwhelming amount of requests for this are proof of that. The list of why collision needs to return is massive so i wont bother. Please just turn it on.
  • Player outlines: I’m not sure who at 343 loves these outlines so much but please for the love of god turn them off for Enemies. This has been asked for since the first flight test. Outline = friendly, no outline = shoot them til they are dead.
  • Vehicles need more weight: Vehicles currently get snagged on small rocks and flip with ease. Please make this stop.
  • BTB needs better vehicle spawns: I’ve played over 40 hrs so far and I’ve seen the Scorpion tank twice. These big spawns need to be slightly earlier AND balanced. Too many times has a Wraith, banshee, scorpion been dropped at the winning sides end further increasing the lead. Either drop in a tank for both sides of drop it in the middle.
  • Melee : Give melee a slightly better lunge, increase foot speed with the ball, flag, sword and hammer.
  • Aim assist on controller: I personally use kb/m but please give our fellow Spartans on controller some much needed aim assist tweaks.
  • Time to Kill : Please don’t listen to people coming from cod. the TTK is fine as is, in fact personally i think it could be every so slightly longer.
  • Radar Range: increase its range and sensitivity by at least 50%

I wont go into weapon balance as I think this should be looked at down the line when more time is put into the things above, plus weapon balance a lot of the time can be a bit bias and i’m no exception.

I might be missing things but for me personally with what we have now these updates and changes would go a LONG way to winning people over. First impressions mean everything and 343 has created a really REALLY tight shooter experience so far and tripped at the finish line. Please, if a 343 employee is reading this, consider these changes for the longevity and life of Halo Infinite Multiplayer.

Signed,
A long time Halo fan who desperately wants to see Halo return to the top.

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You hit the nail on the head with this one, my friend! I don’t really have much to add. The only thing I could think of is an expansion of the weapon sandbox and more dedicated weapon spawns (as opposed to the either/or spawning system at present).

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Thanks mate! Darn I knew there was something I forgot! The random spawns annoy the hell out of me, especially when in the last flight 343i said bot mode was a great way to ‘learn the maps and weapon spawns’ and then they go ahead and make a lot of them random.

It took me an unreasonable amount of time to get shock rifle kills needed for a challenge because I could never find one or it was already taken.

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It is quite ridiculous if you ask me. To be frank, I think the awesome maps suffer a lack of character due to the spawning system. Learning where THAT weapon was on your favorite map was a big part of the charm for me. It’s not a HUGE deal, but it is a bit odd to me. And for players who care about challenges (I have to admit, I don’t typically bother with them), like you said, it’s a huge pain.

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Good feedback from a mature and constructive point of view. These are the types of posts that will win the human element of the community managers, keep up the great work.

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Oh don’t get me wrong I don’t like the challenges either but I wanted to clear it from the list none the less. But you raise a really good point…

Fixed spawns create interesting gameplay in themselves, if the rocket launcher ALWAYS spawns in the same spot then both teams know that and will play accordingly. If the Sniper Rifle always spawns in the same spot then it’ll be a hot spot of people trying to get it. Damn, now I really want proper spawns back

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I really don’t see the point in angry rants that do little to help or offer suggestions, so thanks mate :smiley: hopefully some 343i Devs read this and at least consider the suggestions the community are trying to voice.

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You…I like you…
A few things I disagree with most I do
Well done

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Cheers! Hopefully we’re on a fireteam together one day :smiley: I just want Halo to be the best it can be and I know we’re ‘still in beta’ but all the more reason to give the feedback and hope things improve so we can all have the king of shooters back.

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Great suggestions! And if I may add, the return of spartan companies and the associated challenges and cosmetics?

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That would be a very welcome addition too, I didn’t consider it because sadly I didn’t play a lot of MP for Halo 5, I only ever played the campaign and then just played MCC for my MP fun.

Anything that adds more customisation and personality is a huge plus though

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Selfish bumb to keep this floated, I really want some 343 Devs to read these ideas

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Thumbs up for providing suggestions in a level headed and reasonable way. I think they could split the coating unlocks into 3 elements. Patterns, primary colors, and secondary colors. Your ideas for progression are solid and would help a lot. Challenges could also do with revision to make them 1. less difficult to do in an average match and 2. encourage working with allies.

Which things do you disagree with? Would be good to have a reasonable dialogue with the opinions of multiple players.

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Very awesome suggestions for colours and challenges. I think for challenges the reason I said leave as is, is because I really feel like the Dev attention can be elsewhere right now. I feel like the thing bothering most people is the progression system, coatings and collision. From what I can tell anyway

I certainly dont think its priority one but its something to look at in the future

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Oh yeah for sure! Much like the amount of items we have on offer right now, it’s okay in my opinion but should grow at a decent rate.

I’d also love an open discussion about this! What would you like differently

I agree mostly with ya man and Ill just echo some of the same stuff!

“Some” of my problems with the Halo multiplayer are:

1- There is no progression/rank outside of the battle pass . (SPARTAN RANK) There absolutely needs to be one, something to work towards and keep you engaged in still playing. Not everyone is going to want to buy the battle pass.

2- Some helmets/visors/armor/etc are locked to certain armor cores …that sucks, why? Why cant we mix and match?!

3- Maps & Modes - I think my friends and I got oddball 5 times in a row, 5 TIMES IN A ROW (three of which were on the same map) in ranked arena. We need more maps and more modes (I know they are eventually coming, but still)

4- Where is the playlist for more than solo/duo for controller only? If I have a team of 3 or 4 of us playing on Xbox…why cant we still be in a controller only playlist?

5- And of course… the battle pass progression …its just…unbearable. I get that some changes have already been made…but maybe more XP for a win vs a loss would be nice. It kinda sucks to play so well and WIN and be awarded the same XP as someone on the other team, that was afk for most of the match.

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agreed mostly, but earning credits needs to be faster than what you said, and store prices overall need to go down at least 50%

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