343i please ignore the H2fans, H5G is darn good

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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Any and all complaints stem from the H2fans who live for everything BRs&H2. H5G is shaping up to be really amazing and If these naysayers keep clogging up the forums it shouldn’t be acknowledged. I’ve played a good handful of matches in the Beta and It’s really superbly balanced whether or not anyone else here wants to admit it. H5G is the best new progression in FPS Arena shooters in a long time.

To preemptively assume any and all complaints about H5G just pick some component in H5G and then state how that isn’t the original Halo formula or how it was in HCE, H2, or sometimes H3. Sorry gentlemen and ladies this isn’t the Halo you were looking for, nor the Halo you demanded, it’s something truly better.

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I can tell you exactly why I don’t like the beta so far, and I am against both Halo 2 (my least favorite of the series) and BR starts. If you don’t believe me look in my post history, it’s all there. It’s not one thing, its most things.

I don’t understand why people like you think that it is alright for fans of the series to be alienated by what they love. We fell in love with how the original trilogy played, and this is nothing like that. Most of us aren’t “afraid” of new things and are actually excepting of new stuff, as long as it doesn’t change how the game feels.

What this feels like is Nintendo making a new 2D Mario game, but instead of focusing on what made 2D Mario games great, they just put a Mario skin on a Sonic game and said, “this is our new game” when in all reality its nothing like the originals that people love, and the reason that those people keep coming back.

I’m sorry that you don’t like “old” Halo, but that means you should seek out another game, not help destroy what other people love.

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People like you are the reason Halo has died and why it sucks now. This isn’t Halo. Halo will never be successful again unless they go back to the roots of Halo 2 and Halo 3.

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> I can tell you exactly why I don’t like the beta so far, and I am against both Halo 2 (my least favorite of the series) and BR starts. If you don’t believe me look in my post history, it’s all there. It’s not one thing, its most things.
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> I don’t understand why people like you think that it is alright for fans of the series to be alienated by what they love. We fell in love with how the original trilogy played, and this is nothing like that. Most of us aren’t “afraid” of new things and are actually excepting of new stuff, as long as it doesn’t change how the game feels.
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> What this feels like is Nintendo making a new 2D Mario game, but instead of focusing on what made 2D Mario games great, they just put a Mario skin on a Sonic game and said, “this is our new game” when in all reality its nothing like the originals that people love, and the reason that those people keep coming back.
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> I’m sorry that you don’t like “old” Halo, but that means you should seek out another game, not help destroy what other people love.

I also have been through the originals when they were brand spanking new, but if this franchise is mired and forcibly stuck in it past, it’s time will come to an end. In other words I would rather not see Halo rehashed the same exact way it was while I am looking for new experiences in new Halos, I’ve been there and done that and will go back to the MCC to do it again, but HG5 will be something else, something new or else it will be a letdown.

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So if I prefer Halo 2 over Halo 5 then your personal recommendation to 343 is to disregard my opinion?

Grow up OP, the rampant Halo 2/3 fanboys you describe are annoying to be sure, but there’s nothing more obnoxious than a white knight who thinks 343’s -Yoink- doesn’t stink.

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No joke dude, this is the prefect fusion of old and new halo. I have only played one game (I got home very late and need to go to bed) and have not yet mastered all the new stuff. But this is great.

I have played halo since I was 9 (I’m 22) starting with Halo CE and have played every halo to date, including the fabled Halo DS that never came out.

Halo 5 is…HALO.

Well I’m gonna try to contain my hype so I can get some sleep, See ya’ll in the arena!!!

Oh also wanna point out the term arena, I wonder what other “game types” there are.

Has me thinking back to a really old post, I can’t find the link to the pastenote site is was on originally but here

At the moment 343i is in the prototype phase, but i will post the current state of Halo for Xbox One.
Just a reminder that the game you will see probably wont feature everything you are reading here."

Tech:
60 FPS has been confirmed at E3, now the team around Corinne is basically taking the Halo 4 Engine, “dumps” it on Xbox One Devkits and measures the perfomance and goes from there.
The Xbox One hardware is really powerful, though as many have stated not as powerful as Sony’s machine. Nevertheless the team does have the goal to create one of the best looking titles next year. People are seriously overstating the power difference and underestimate the potential of the eSRAM (yes, it was included for bandwidth reasons, but the low latency does increase efficiencs in real world perfomance, if the eSRAM is used in smart way. I basically got the same code, with some optimization with the eSRAM running only 20% worse on Xbox Oen than on a PS4-Devkit from January.
Now what tech and graphical features will be implemented?
Deferred Shading will finally be implemented, Halo 4 was really sparse on terms of dynamic lights, a drawback of havin to use a traditional forward renderer. G-Buffer will consist of 4 MRTs. The entire pipeline is HDR and linear space. Those Render Targets will probably be stored in the eSRAM or split between the two pools, depending on perfomance.
Some form of SSAO will also be implemented, Halo 4 only had static and baked AO which looked great in pictures.
PRTs will be used, current tests with eSRAM and the results are amazing. Thanks to 5GB of ram (soon 6GB :wink: ) the textures will look amazing and the models will have plenty detail.
There are a few drawbacks with aiming for 60 FPS. First the game will not render in native 1080p. Current resoultion on display plane 2 is 1920x720 (1,3 Megapixel compared to 2 for 1080p), display plane 1 (HUD an weapon) will be native 1080p. You literally cant tell the difference.

Cloud:
Dedicated Server.
First titel to showcase true power of cloud processing. Massive battles with 100s of AI (calculated by the cloud); massive worlds with dynamic weathher and global lighting (all done in cloud).
And yes, this will need an alway online connection(you dont need a powerful connection, those data pakets are really small)

Game:
Campaign is planned to be 3-5 times longer than Halo 4. No more linear , going open world.
Master Chief has gone rogue, has own ship and can visit different planets (6-8 planned). Each planet has several regions with main objectives and several side missions. ( Think of Wings of Liberty or Dawn of War 2 cmapaign)
Core gameplay is still Halo (2 weapons, grenades, melee; “30 seconds of fun”; sevaral different enemies) but there are RPG elements added to it: character progression (mostly items like forerunner relicts you will find that make Master Chief stronger or will give him more ablities), not really loot, but you will have to acquire weapons first, before you can use them in more missions. Weapons are stored in the armory on the ship and chief can choose his loadout, which he will use on the mission start. He can still pickup and use the weapons he finds in the different missions.Loadout weapons are basically the same you have in Halo 4 Multiplayer (you cant start with a rocket launcher, but you can call in those “super weapons” on a mission like in Infinity Multiplayer; difference is this is a limited ability, at “low level” you can call one time, this can be upgraded over time)
There will be more weapons in campaign than in Halo 4(and yes more “alien” weapons; not just human weapons with a different coat)

Enemies:
Elites (the same faction you fought in Halo 4), Grunts, Jackals, Hunter, Brutes, Drones
Promethean (heavily redesigned, more types like Promethean Warlords)
Humans (yep you will gith humans, but not UNSC, those are Insurrectionists)

Vehicles:
Biggest number of vehicles ever.
Warthog (classic, rocket, gauss), Scorpion and yes the Grizzly will be in, Mammoth, upgraded Mantis, more Halo Wars vehicles like rhino, wolverine, cobra, hornets, falcons, vultures
Chiefs ship can store a limited amount of vehicles (call in similar to weapons)
Forerunner War Sphinx are in, very powerful enemy “vehicles” (and yep you will fight them)

To put the gameplay in campaign into perspective:
The team was running an encounter test in the Halo 4 engine with prototype models.
This encounter featured several hundreds of Brutes with 2 Scarabs, 10 wraiths and several ghosts and banshees fightin against one Forerunner War Sphinx and some Prometheans. Now the player could engage in that battle or just simply watch them fight (Power of the Cloud: AI in short distance to chief is process on the box; rest in the cloud) and pick off the remaing forces.
Well the current player chose to engange, took his Hornet and landed it on one of the Scarabs ( the AI is amazing, the Brutes had now to choose who to fight, most forces fought against the Prometheans, a few took on the fight with chief; it really looks and feels like every single AI makes smart and menaingfull decisions))
The Player killed of the crew on the Scarab and well, thise time he doenst destroy the Core, he gets behind the wheel of the Scarav :wink: All hell breaks loose, brute forces more and more engage the rogue Scarab, while the Prometheans dont really difference their enemies.
And yep the Scarabs is destroyed withing seconds , thought the Player surived thanks to god-mode.
Those are the kinds of encounter you will find in the final game.

Multiplayer:
Split between two categories.
Halo Wararena ist basically Halo 2 reloaded. No loadouts, no armor abilites and perks.
Player Count 8-16, game types are Slayer, CTF(yes classic Halo CTF :wink: ), King of the Hill, Assault, Oddball…
Static weapon spawns, more weapons on map which means more ammo, weapons wont respawn as quick as in Halo 4
The seconds multiplayer categorie is titles Halo Battlefield (not final name obviously).
Those are basically really big teams battles like 32-64. Gameplay is more inline with Invasion from Halo Reach.
Custom Loadouts, “armor abilites” (more like class abilites), Vehicles, Infinity like call ins

Notice it says 2 types MP game types, the name War Arena (key word arena) being one of them. Not saying this old leak is true but I have been hoping it is who knows maybe it is. Halo BF anyone? lol

EDIT: Not saying that old old leak is true just bring up the topic about it. Either way HALO 5 MP WOOT WOOT

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> People like you are the reason Halo has died and why it sucks now. This isn’t Halo. Halo will never be successful again unless they go back to the roots of Halo 2 and Halo 3.

A statement like that comes without a working understanding of how Halo did climb to the top of the mountain.

  1. Limited competition- Halo had no rivals during H2 era and CoD did start to take over while H3 was in play
  2. XBOX LIVE was Halo 2- there was no other reason to have XBL on the original Xbox
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> I can tell you exactly why I don’t like the beta so far, and I am against both Halo 2 (my least favorite of the series) and BR starts. If you don’t believe me look in my post history, it’s all there. It’s not one thing, its most things.
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> I don’t understand why people like you think that it is alright for fans of the series to be alienated by what they love. We fell in love with how the original trilogy played, and this is nothing like that. Most of us aren’t “afraid” of new things and are actually excepting of new stuff, as long as it doesn’t change how the game feels.
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> What this feels like is Nintendo making a new 2D Mario game, but instead of focusing on what made 2D Mario games great, they just put a Mario skin on a Sonic game and said, “this is our new game” when in all reality its nothing like the originals that people love, and the reason that those people keep coming back.
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> I’m sorry that you don’t like “old” Halo, but that means you should seek out another game, not help destroy what other people love.

I love the original trilogy and have played it to death especially Halo 3, man I would be scared to learn how many hours I put in to that game. But now Halo 3 just feel to old for me, yeah its still fun but I’ve gotten all I wanted out of that game. Halo 5 on the other hand is a new, fresh spin on the Halo I love and is in many ways that Halo Game I have been waiting for since I first played Halo CE almost 14 years ago. The new Spartan Abilities are some of the coolest things I’ve seen in Halo since I first saw Hijacking in halo 2.

Do I like COD? Not any more,I stopped after Modern warfare 2 and I haven’t play AW either. I played Titan Fall for a little while but got really bored of it. I haven’t touch Destiny either. So don’t tell me to go play those game, I have no interest in them at all. Halo 5 however I have already fallen in love with and I don’t want it to change into Halo.2.5/3.5.

Oh and your analogy is in no way actuate. The Game very much still plays like Halo.

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> > I can tell you exactly why I don’t like the beta so far, and I am against both Halo 2 (my least favorite of the series) and BR starts. If you don’t believe me look in my post history, it’s all there. It’s not one thing, its most things.
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> > I don’t understand why people like you think that it is alright for fans of the series to be alienated by what they love. We fell in love with how the original trilogy played, and this is nothing like that. Most of us aren’t “afraid” of new things and are actually excepting of new stuff, as long as it doesn’t change how the game feels.
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> > What this feels like is Nintendo making a new 2D Mario game, but instead of focusing on what made 2D Mario games great, they just put a Mario skin on a Sonic game and said, “this is our new game” when in all reality its nothing like the originals that people love, and the reason that those people keep coming back.
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> > I’m sorry that you don’t like “old” Halo, but that means you should seek out another game, not help destroy what other people love.
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> I also have been through the originals when they were brand spanking new, but if this franchise is mired and forcibly stuck in it past, it’s time will come to an end. In other words I would rather not see Halo rehashed the same exact way it was while I am looking for new experiences in new Halos, I’ve been there and done that and will go back to the MCC to do it again, but HG5 will be something else, something new or else it will be a letdown.

I would rather see Halo burn fast but bright and die while it is great then see it turn into something that it’s not. And keep in mind this is coming from someone who actually likes Halo 4. Even 4, with all of its faults, feels like a Halo game. This does not. It feels like a generic arena shooter with a Halo skin on it. I realize that it is a beta and that things can change, and I’m really hoping that they do.

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> > > I can tell you exactly why I don’t like the beta so far, and I am against both Halo 2 (my least favorite of the series) and BR starts. If you don’t believe me look in my post history, it’s all there. It’s not one thing, its most things.
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> > > I don’t understand why people like you think that it is alright for fans of the series to be alienated by what they love. We fell in love with how the original trilogy played, and this is nothing like that. Most of us aren’t “afraid” of new things and are actually excepting of new stuff, as long as it doesn’t change how the game feels.
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> > > What this feels like is Nintendo making a new 2D Mario game, but instead of focusing on what made 2D Mario games great, they just put a Mario skin on a Sonic game and said, “this is our new game” when in all reality its nothing like the originals that people love, and the reason that those people keep coming back.
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> > > I’m sorry that you don’t like “old” Halo, but that means you should seek out another game, not help destroy what other people love.
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> > I also have been through the originals when they were brand spanking new, but if this franchise is mired and forcibly stuck in it past, it’s time will come to an end. In other words I would rather not see Halo rehashed the same exact way it was while I am looking for new experiences in new Halos, I’ve been there and done that and will go back to the MCC to do it again, but HG5 will be something else, something new or else it will be a letdown.
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> I would rather see Halo burn fast but bright and die while it is great then see it turn into something that it’s not. And keep in mind this is coming from someone who actually likes Halo 4. Even 4, with all of its faults, feels like a Halo game. This does not. It feels like a generic arena shooter with a Halo skin on it. I realize that it is a beta and that things can change, and I’m really hoping that they do.

Then don’t play it. If you would truly rather it burn then become what Halo 5 is now then don’t play it.

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> > I can tell you exactly why I don’t like the beta so far, and I am against both Halo 2 (my least favorite of the series) and BR starts. If you don’t believe me look in my post history, it’s all there. It’s not one thing, its most things.
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> > I don’t understand why people like you think that it is alright for fans of the series to be alienated by what they love. We fell in love with how the original trilogy played, and this is nothing like that. Most of us aren’t “afraid” of new things and are actually excepting of new stuff, as long as it doesn’t change how the game feels.
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> > What this feels like is Nintendo making a new 2D Mario game, but instead of focusing on what made 2D Mario games great, they just put a Mario skin on a Sonic game and said, “this is our new game” when in all reality its nothing like the originals that people love, and the reason that those people keep coming back.
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> > I’m sorry that you don’t like “old” Halo, but that means you should seek out another game, not help destroy what other people love.
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> I love the original trilogy and have played it to death especially Halo 3, man I would be scared to learn how many hours I put in to that game. But now Halo 3 just feel to old for me, yeah its still fun but I’ve gotten all I wanted out of that game. Halo 5 on the other hand is a new, fresh spin on the Halo I love and is in many ways that Halo Game I have been waiting for since I first played Halo CE almost 14 years ago. The new Spartan Abilities are some of the coolest things I’ve seen in Halo since I first saw Hijacking in halo 2.
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> Do I like COD? Not any more,I stopped after Modern warfare 2 and I haven’t play AW either. I played Titan Fall for a little while but got really bored of it. I haven’t touch Destiny either. So don’t tell me to go play those game, I have no interest in them at all. Halo 5 however I have already fallen in love with and I don’t want it to change into Halo.2.5/3.5.
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> Oh and your analogy is in no way actuate. The Game very much still plays like Halo.

I don’t want to tell people that they should go play other games, I just don’t see how anyone can justify changing something to the point that it is not recognizable to what it originally started as. I realize that I will be done with Halo soon as if it goes down this road they won’t be fun anymore. I don’t want that to happen but I have excepted it.

It doesn’t play like Halo at all. There is almost no strategy to how it is played, people just run around spamming automatic guns at each other in the beta. The only thing that makes it “feel” like Halo are the visuals. Could you honestly tell me that if this didn’t look like it does now, and instead had a generic sci-fi skin on it that you would say that it plays like a Halo game? I know I wouldn’t.

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> > > > I can tell you exactly why I don’t like the beta so far, and I am against both Halo 2 (my least favorite of the series) and BR starts. If you don’t believe me look in my post history, it’s all there. It’s not one thing, its most things.
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> > > > I don’t understand why people like you think that it is alright for fans of the series to be alienated by what they love. We fell in love with how the original trilogy played, and this is nothing like that. Most of us aren’t “afraid” of new things and are actually excepting of new stuff, as long as it doesn’t change how the game feels.
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> > > > What this feels like is Nintendo making a new 2D Mario game, but instead of focusing on what made 2D Mario games great, they just put a Mario skin on a Sonic game and said, “this is our new game” when in all reality its nothing like the originals that people love, and the reason that those people keep coming back.
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> > > > I’m sorry that you don’t like “old” Halo, but that means you should seek out another game, not help destroy what other people love.
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> > > I also have been through the originals when they were brand spanking new, but if this franchise is mired and forcibly stuck in it past, it’s time will come to an end. In other words I would rather not see Halo rehashed the same exact way it was while I am looking for new experiences in new Halos, I’ve been there and done that and will go back to the MCC to do it again, but HG5 will be something else, something new or else it will be a letdown.
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> > I would rather see Halo burn fast but bright and die while it is great then see it turn into something that it’s not. And keep in mind this is coming from someone who actually likes Halo 4. Even 4, with all of its faults, feels like a Halo game. This does not. It feels like a generic arena shooter with a Halo skin on it. I realize that it is a beta and that things can change, and I’m really hoping that they do.
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> Then don’t play it. If you would truly rather it burn then become what Halo 5 is now then don’t play it.

I probably won’t to be honest.

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> So if I prefer Halo 2 over Halo 5 then your personal recommendation to 343 is to disregard my opinion?
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> Grow up OP, the rampant Halo 2/3 fanboys you describe are annoying to be sure, but there’s nothing more obnoxious than a white knight who thinks 343’s -Yoink- doesn’t stink.

Have you ever complained about H2A MP because that is the next evolution of H2. It would be the end all be all counter point against all H2 Devotees since H2A MP gets trashed by them regularly, which means they even dislike the very thing that they seek.

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nothing to see here

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> > > > I can tell you exactly why I don’t like the beta so far, and I am against both Halo 2 (my least favorite of the series) and BR starts. If you don’t believe me look in my post history, it’s all there. It’s not one thing, its most things.
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> > > > I don’t understand why people like you think that it is alright for fans of the series to be alienated by what they love. We fell in love with how the original trilogy played, and this is nothing like that. Most of us aren’t “afraid” of new things and are actually excepting of new stuff, as long as it doesn’t change how the game feels.
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> > > > What this feels like is Nintendo making a new 2D Mario game, but instead of focusing on what made 2D Mario games great, they just put a Mario skin on a Sonic game and said, “this is our new game” when in all reality its nothing like the originals that people love, and the reason that those people keep coming back.
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> > > > I’m sorry that you don’t like “old” Halo, but that means you should seek out another game, not help destroy what other people love.
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> > > I love the original trilogy and have played it to death especially Halo 3, man I would be scared to learn how many hours I put in to that game. But now Halo 3 just feel to old for me, yeah its still fun but I’ve gotten all I wanted out of that game. Halo 5 on the other hand is a new, fresh spin on the Halo I love and is in many ways that Halo Game I have been waiting for since I first played Halo CE almost 14 years ago. The new Spartan Abilities are some of the coolest things I’ve seen in Halo since I first saw Hijacking in halo 2.
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> > > Do I like COD? Not any more,I stopped after Modern warfare 2 and I haven’t play AW either. I played Titan Fall for a little while but got really bored of it. I haven’t touch Destiny either. So don’t tell me to go play those game, I have no interest in them at all. Halo 5 however I have already fallen in love with and I don’t want it to change into Halo.2.5/3.5.
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> > > Oh and your analogy is in no way actuate. The Game very much still plays like Halo.
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> > I don’t want to tell people that they should go play other games, I just don’t see how anyone can justify changing something to the point that it is not recognizable to what it originally started as. I realize that I will be done with Halo soon as if it goes down this road they won’t be fun anymore. I don’t want that to happen but I have excepted it.
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> > It doesn’t play like Halo at all. There is almost no strategy to how it is played, people just run around spamming automatic guns at each other in the beta. The only thing that makes it “feel” like Halo are the visuals. Could you honestly tell me that if this didn’t look like it does now, and instead had a generic sci-fi skin on it that you would say that it plays like a Halo game? I know I wouldn’t.
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> If it had a COD like player models and COD looking maps? But still Had Halo style geometry on map, was an Arena shoot that focuses on Map control with power weapons, had the three major point of Halo Game Play(Weapon, Grenades, and Melee) that still work just as they did, even starts, recharging energy shields/health and all these new abilities? You Blam right I would say it plays like halo. I would also say that it was a Blatant rip-off of Halo and I would most definitely buy it… Assuming Halo 5 wasn’t already coming out.

definitely

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> I have played halo since I was 7 (I’m 22) starting with Halo CE and have played every halo to date, including the fabled Halo DS that never came out.

You’ve been playing halo for 15 years even though it’s only been out for 13 years?

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> > I have played halo since I was 7 (I’m 22) starting with Halo CE and have played every halo to date, including the fabled Halo DS that never came out.
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> You’ve been playing halo for 15 years even though it’s only been out for 13 years?

Yes I a tender young 7 year old stole a copy of CE far before it was ready, naw Crap your right, sorry as said I got home wayyy late last night and was very much tired. So actually 8 or 9 or something. Either way I first played at the age where I had to sneak in my brothers room in order to play.

Point being I have played since CE was first released.

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> > > I can tell you exactly why I don’t like the beta so far, and I am against both Halo 2 (my least favorite of the series) and BR starts. If you don’t believe me look in my post history, it’s all there. It’s not one thing, its most things.
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> > > I don’t understand why people like you think that it is alright for fans of the series to be alienated by what they love. We fell in love with how the original trilogy played, and this is nothing like that. Most of us aren’t “afraid” of new things and are actually excepting of new stuff, as long as it doesn’t change how the game feels.
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> > > What this feels like is Nintendo making a new 2D Mario game, but instead of focusing on what made 2D Mario games great, they just put a Mario skin on a Sonic game and said, “this is our new game” when in all reality its nothing like the originals that people love, and the reason that those people keep coming back.
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> > > I’m sorry that you don’t like “old” Halo, but that means you should seek out another game, not help destroy what other people love.
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> > I also have been through the originals when they were brand spanking new, but if this franchise is mired and forcibly stuck in it past, it’s time will come to an end. In other words I would rather not see Halo rehashed the same exact way it was while I am looking for new experiences in new Halos, I’ve been there and done that and will go back to the MCC to do it again, but HG5 will be something else, something new or else it will be a letdown.
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> I would rather see Halo burn fast but bright and die while it is great then see it turn into something that it’s not. And keep in mind this is coming from someone who actually likes Halo 4. Even 4, with all of its faults, feels like a Halo game. This does not. It feels like a generic arena shooter with a Halo skin on it. I realize that it is a beta and that things can change, and I’m really hoping that they do.

Not gonna lie, while I enjoy H5 I get what your saying. I’m happy with the changes. However yes if they just make a classic gametype I’d be happy. It can’t be too hard just to make a gametype with just halo 2, or halo 3 style combat. Then a playlist for it.

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Lol a fascist thread! Dont worry kid they dont.

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> People like you are the reason Halo has died and why it sucks now. This isn’t Halo. Halo will never be successful again unless they go back to the roots of Halo 2 and Halo 3.

I think this game is the closest to halo 2 mechanics of all halo games so far. Kill times are almost identical. All that’s needed are some weapons tuNing. Everyone is equal on the map. Please tell us how and why this is not halo?