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> > I don’t know how you can already be asking them to change the writer.
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> Because the examples of his writing we do have are awful.
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I realize it is too late for Halo 5’s writing department to be changed, but if Halo 5’s story isn’t good, that will have been the third time the Lead Writer department has messed up. If Halo 5’s story is less than decent, Halo 6 needs a new lead writer.
I would have more faith in Halo 5 Guardians story if it was going to be written by the same guy who wrote Halo 4 (Chris Schlerf who did a fantastic job), but the current lead writing department isn’t doing such a great job so far.
Fortunately, Joseph Staten (Bungie’s lead writer during the Halo Trilogy I believe) has returned to Microsoft, so there is a CHANCE (not necessarily likely) that he could return to Halo and be Halo 6’s lead writer. This is the best case scenario.
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> “I feel that perhaps if Joe Staten, who has been hired by Microsoft should take place as 343i’s lead writer, so he can give Halo 5: Guardians’ campaign a wonderful story. Joe Staten gave the original Halo Trilogy a fantastic story, and now that he is back with Microsoft, him transfering over to 343i would be easy. Another alternative, would be to get Chris Schlerf back as lead writer, as he gave Halo 4 a beautiful story full of emotion. A story so good, that articles were written about his work. Either way, 343i, please ensure that Halo 5: Guardians tells a fantastic story, with emotion, and a good moral at the end. Just like Halo 4 did.”
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> Ok crappy comic book writer who is the micheal bay of Halo or the origional trilogy writer who has had the most experience and defined the lore. Lets let the 343 crew decide :*(
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> 343 just hire him, you have the maker of Halo at microsoft and your letting a comic book guy decide our series future? ARE YOU NUTS
This
Joe Staten returning would be the best thing to happen to Halo since the days of Halo 3 and Reach
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> I realize it is too late for Halo 5’s writing department to be changed, but if Halo 5’s story isn’t good, that will have been the third time the Lead Writer department has messed up. If Halo 5’s story is less than decent, Halo 6 needs a new lead writer.
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> I would have more faith in Halo 5 Guardians story if it was going to be written by the same guy who wrote Halo 4 (Chris Schlerf who did a fantastic job), but the current lead writing department isn’t doing such a great job so far.
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> Fortunately, Joseph Staten (Bungie’s lead writer during the Halo Trilogy I believe) has returned to Microsoft, so there is a CHANCE (not necessarily likely) that he could return to Halo and be Halo 6’s lead writer. This is the best case scenario.
Joseph Staten is writing an upcoming Halo novel so he is at least involved in the franchise. It’s likely he will become involved with the story process for Halo 6 especially considering his novel comes out after Halo 5.
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> > I realize it is too late for Halo 5’s writing department to be changed, but if Halo 5’s story isn’t good, that will have been the third time the Lead Writer department has messed up. If Halo 5’s story is less than decent, Halo 6 needs a new lead writer.
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> > I would have more faith in Halo 5 Guardians story if it was going to be written by the same guy who wrote Halo 4 (Chris Schlerf who did a fantastic job), but the current lead writing department isn’t doing such a great job so far.
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> > Fortunately, Joseph Staten (Bungie’s lead writer during the Halo Trilogy I believe) has returned to Microsoft, so there is a CHANCE (not necessarily likely) that he could return to Halo and be Halo 6’s lead writer. This is the best case scenario.
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> Joseph Staten is writing an upcoming Halo novel so he is at least involved in the franchise. It’s likely he will become involved with the story process for Halo 6 especially considering his novel comes out after Halo 5.
And seems like he likely did the voice of the grunt for the new MCC commercial
MCC grunt ad
Hey OP
Guess who’s BACK, back, back… BACK AGAIN, gain, gain… STATEN’S BACK, back, back… TELL A FRIEND…
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> Hey OP
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> Guess who’s BACK, back, back… BACK AGAIN, gain, gain… STATEN’S BACK, back, back… TELL A FRIEND.
Apparently just for this book, however, and it is going to be released at the end of the year after Halo 5 ships.
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> > I realize it is too late for Halo 5’s writing department to be changed, but if Halo 5’s story isn’t good, that will have been the third time the Lead Writer department has messed up. If Halo 5’s story is less than decent, Halo 6 needs a new lead writer.
> >
> > I would have more faith in Halo 5 Guardians story if it was going to be written by the same guy who wrote Halo 4 (Chris Schlerf who did a fantastic job), but the current lead writing department isn’t doing such a great job so far.
> >
> > Fortunately, Joseph Staten (Bungie’s lead writer during the Halo Trilogy I believe) has returned to Microsoft, so there is a CHANCE (not necessarily likely) that he could return to Halo and be Halo 6’s lead writer. This is the best case scenario.
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> Joseph Staten is writing an upcoming Halo novel so he is at least involved in the franchise. It’s likely he will become involved with the story process for Halo 6 especially considering his novel comes out after Halo 5.
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> Hey OP
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> Guess who’s BACK, back, back… BACK AGAIN, gain, gain… STATEN’S BACK, back, back… TELL A FRIEND…
I would LOVE for Staten to come back as lead writer, but as of now he’s only writing a book. So I don’t want to get my hopes up that for sure he’s going to become 343i’s Halo writer. This is the best case scenario, but not garunteed. I hope so though
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> > Hey OP
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> > Guess who’s BACK, back, back… BACK AGAIN, gain, gain… STATEN’S BACK, back, back… TELL A FRIEND.
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> Apparently just for this book, however, and it is going to be released at the end of the year after Halo 5 ships.
I’m aware of this. I only stressed the significance of him working on Halo again, in any capacity.
I write for them that would be new.
You would love my stories they are so out of the usual you would believe Im an alien.
I don’t know how and where you get the info that halo 5 has a bad story.
Did you read AND see it?
I mean the visual is also very important.
You can have a lousy visual writer and a gifted novel writer its no guarantee for anything.
It both has to match.
Only cause you think one part is bad does not mean all is.
You dont know how well things can look when they are balanced out.
I think you are taking a too big bite of all this.
I think it is totally disrespectful to write a thread like this here.
I mean what is it that you have to think you can do this?
I mean you clearly go after one person.
I dont know who you talk about since I dont care who does write what as long as it is great in the end.
I liked spartan assault, I dont read comics I like movement more then frozen images.
Here is what I think, you have a biased view on things.
You clearly favor the person that left.
You must be heartbroken he left since he was your hero or something like that its seems like.
Sorry for you but he left thats it.
You say your self a new writer would be good.
Well how about you look at things to the end.
It is a total different thing to write a comic or a story for a game.
So what if the person also prefers animation over frozen images and bubble text?
Do you really wanna complain before you saw it?
Its odd on the one hand you want a new writer, on the other it can only be one that is a copy of a person that left.
All others are not accepted by you lol
Man you clearly have an issue with artist expressions.
Please I do NOT want robot artists.
I welcome experimental creativity.
So whoever does what I hope he keeps doing it and rub some awesome eye and ear candy in your face (:
H4’s story could’ve been better. Think about it. It was just too ironic that a few hours after the Chief crashes onto some random planet, the largest ship just happens to be heading to the same place. It would’ve been better with the Chief having to survive on his own for awhile. Comandeering Covenant weapons/vehicles or salvaging weapons from the Forward Unto Dawn wreckage would’ve been cool. Its just that we haven’t seen the Chief survive on his own much. We’ve seen him go in a few places alone for a short time, but nothing long term. From what I can gather from H5 though, it seems he will be rogue through the 1st part of the campaign.
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> H4’s story could’ve been better. Think about it. It was just too ironic that a few hours after the Chief crashes onto some random planet, the largest ship just happens to be heading to the same place. It would’ve been better with the Chief having to survive on his own for awhile. Comandeering Covenant weapons/vehicles or salvaging weapons from the Forward Unto Dawn wreckage would’ve been cool. Its just that we haven’t seen the Chief survive on his own much. We’ve seen him go in a few places alone for a short time, but nothing long term. From what I can gather from H5 though, it seems he will be rogue through the 1st part of the campaign.
Sort of like how Cortana just coincidentally punched in coordinates that just happened to lead to Alpha Halo?
Sort of like how the Covenant just happened to find Earth and did not expect humanity to be on it?
Sort of like how the Covenant just happened to find Delta Halo out of the blue?
Coincidence and Halo go together like PB and J.
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> > H4’s story could’ve been better. Think about it. It was just too ironic that a few hours after the Chief crashes onto some random planet, the largest ship just happens to be heading to the same place. It would’ve been better with the Chief having to survive on his own for awhile. Comandeering Covenant weapons/vehicles or salvaging weapons from the Forward Unto Dawn wreckage would’ve been cool. Its just that we haven’t seen the Chief survive on his own much. We’ve seen him go in a few places alone for a short time, but nothing long term. From what I can gather from H5 though, it seems he will be rogue through the 1st part of the campaign.
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> Sort of like how Cortana just coincidentally punched in coordinates that just happened to lead to Alpha Halo?
> Sort of like how the Covenant just happened to find Earth and did not expect humanity to be on it?
> Sort of like how the Covenant just happened to find Delta Halo out of the blue?
> Coincidence and Halo go together like PB and J.
Actually, its interesting
all these “coincidences” are lore wise explained.
The librarian planted out all these coincidences to happen in Chief and Cortanas gene song. She planed for them both…
If I am correct?
I thought Halo 4s story was masterfully done for me it was the best single-player experience by far.
Looking back, it’s hilarious how prophetic the OP was.
I don’t understand how Reach’s characters were developed?
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> Note to Moderators/Monitors only: I am aware that “calling out people” is against the forum rules, so I will not name this staff member, just the department of 343i that needs to be improved. I am only critiquing this department of 343i for the sake of improving Halo 5: Guardians story. I am not doing this to be mean, or to offend the specific department, I have nothing against them and I am sure they are great people, I am simply saying this for constructive criticism and so that Halo 5 can be the best game it can be. I will now discuss why I feel the current lead writer (who I will not name) is not beneficial to Halo 5’s lore. If you feel this breaks the waypoint guidelines, then all the forums complaining about sprint (these people critique the multiplayer department), graphics (these people critique the graphics department), or anything else break the guidelines too. Just like them, I am complaining about a specific department in 343i that I want improved. I have the freedom to do so. If you lock my thread for complaining, then you should lock every other thread on this forum for complaining as well. Please do not single me out, it’s not good justice. Thank you, and please understand I mean no harm or offence to the lead writer department of 343i, and simply want to express my feelings so that 343i can improve Halo 5 constructively.
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> My actual Thread (Opening Post):
> Hi 343i, and anyone reading.
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> I am sure that the current lead writer is a great guy, and I mean nothing personal against him. However, based on the work he has displayed to us this far in the Halo franchize, he is not a very good writer for Halo.
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> Halo has stood out as an FPS from other games that it competes with (such as Battlefield or Call of Duty) thanks to its of it’s great campaigns, and beautiful stories.
> Now Call of Duty seems to be trying to step up it’s talent in the writing department, if Halo wishes to compete it needs to be able to tell the best story that it can possibly tell.
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> Halo 1-3 had beautiful stories both engaging, with compelling heroes and villains. In Halo 2 we got a closer look at the Covenant and could tell that they are not two demensonal villains, and seeing things through the Arbiter’s perspective we could understand their motives.
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> Halo 4 had an even better story (not written by 343i’s current lead writer, it was written by Chris Schlerf, the former lead writer). It featured all the elements of a good story. It had a good plot (the plot was engaging the lore was expanded), good characters (chief and cortana were developed even more), good emotion (the scenes with chief and cortana were very emotional), and a good moral (there was a deep lesson to be learned from the story, it delved into the concept of Man vs Machine, and what it means to be a human). Halo 4 had a fantastic story and in my personal opinion surpassed the stories of the previous Halo games. However the story in Halo 4’s campaign was written by Chris Schlerf, and he has left 343i unfortunately. Halo 5: Guardians will not have a writer who has proven himself worthy with the Halo series (unlike Chris Schlerf who has proven himself worthy) instead it will have a writer who has proven himself to be unworthy several times (Unfortunately the current and new lead writer department for Halo has proven to be unworthy several times).
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> One of the current lead writer’s errors was Spartan Ops. The characters Spartan Ops I feel were very generic, boring, and undeveloped. The cast of Team Majestic was not very well executed. In previous Halo games such as Halo ODST, Halo Reach had better characters (these two games were team centric stories). The overall plot of Spartan Ops was mediocre as well. Spartan Ops was also completely devoid of emotion as well as possessing a moral. Chris Schlerf’s Halo 4 campaign was superior in every way to the current lead writer’s spartan ops.
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> Another one of the current lead writer’s errors is Halo Escalation. The comic series started off by being written by Chris Schlerf, and it was quite good. After issue 6 or so, Schlerf stopped writing the mini series and left 343i. When 34i3’s new (now current) lead writer took over the quality dropped significantly. I could make a new forum about why the new lead writer department’s writing in Halo escalation is bad, but I would rather you read it for your self to find out why.
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> Chris Schlerf is a good writer for Halo, The current lead writer is a not so good writer for Halo. Chris is gone, and we are stuck with the current lead writer, we either need someone else or for the current lead writer department to drastically improve. 343i, please hear my plea, a brand new writer would give Halo 5 a better chance to have a good story than using the current lead writer (who has already proven himself to be a not so good writer for Halo two times now). Once again, I am sure that the current lead writer department is a great man (men?), and maybe even a decent comic book writer (seeing as it was his previous position), but he is not a good Halo writer, and he is not good for the franchise.
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> To end this off,
> Halo stands out from most FPS games because it has such a fantastic story. Call of Duty, Battlefield, and many other FPS games have terrible stories and writing in comparison to Halo. However Call of Duty has recently been stepping it’s story department up by hiring famous writers like David S. Goyer to write for Black Ops 2. If Halo wishes to compete with Call of Duty, it needs to step it up in the writing department as well.
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> Solution:
> I feel that perhaps if Joe Staten, who has been hired by Microsoft should take place as 343i’s lead writer, so he can give Halo 5: Guardians’ campaign a wonderful story. Joe Staten gave the original Halo Trilogy a fantastic story, and now that he is back with Microsoft, him transfering over to 343i would be easy. Another alternative, would be to get Chris Schlerf back as lead writer, as he gave Halo 4 a beautiful story full of emotion. A story so good, that articles were written about his work. Either way, 343i, please ensure that Halo 5: Guardians tells a fantastic story, with emotion, and a good moral at the end. Just like Halo 4 did.
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> Update:
> In response to thoughts that it is too late to change things, such as…
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> "Its sad that you think that the story can be changed now, it shows that you have no idea how much time and effort are needed to change anything now."
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> I realize it is too late for Halo 5’s writing department to be changed, but if Halo 5’s story isn’t good, that will have been the third time the Lead Writer department has messed up. If Halo 5’s story is less than decent, Halo 6 needs a new lead writer.
>
> I would have more faith in Halo 5 Guardians story if it was going to be written by the same guy who wrote Halo 4 (Chris Schlerf who did a fantastic job), but the current lead writing department isn’t doing such a great job so far.
>
> Fortunately, Joseph Staten (Bungie’s lead writer during the Halo Trilogy I believe) has returned to Microsoft, so there is a CHANCE (not necessarily likely) that he could return to Halo and be Halo 6’s lead writer. This is the best case scenario.
Im pretty sure Chris Schlerf left because he did not like were the story was going so I dont think he will ever comeback
I really enjoyed the spartan ops story and characters. different strokes for different folks.
Wow OP is such a wise man he knew it months ago before we did. I had no clue it would be this bad.
Such a bad move giving a lead writer position to a mediocre writer at best. Sort of like how they approached H4s multiplayer.
Surely this guy isn’t going to be lead writer for 6 ?