I have too say, I’m severely disappointed in the greed shown. Almost all the people who played season 1 bought the battle pass. Hoping we would be rewarded in season 2 by having our passes paid for. As there was no way to earn credits in season 1. I think it’s horrible 343i is making all those who spent their money, spend their money again. It’s a totally bs setup. You can guarantee, I’ll never buy another Halo season again. I know in the grand scale of things, me being one person is nothing. I feel all season one buyers who are upset with the fact we got played, need to not buy the second season. Maybe if enough players refuse to spend money on it, they will see the error of their ways. I have played Halo from the very beginning, and have never been more disappointed in a game developer. (And I bought Battlefield 2042) I don’t doubt that Microsoft itself had something to do with this greedy grab. It just saddens me, and I hope they feel ashamed of what they did to loyal Halo fans everywhere.
Yup, 343 has proved they care more about the money than the quality of the product with Halo Infinite. All we can really do is try to keep speaking out about it and not spending any money on the game.
i totally agree with you brother, it feels that for me too
I 100% agree. I bought season one, thinking “okay, theyre gonna have some issues and theyll be worked out in time”. I was wrong. It saddens me that the challenges I can beat in a few days then have to wait a whole week to even bring myself to play again. I miss the Halo 3 and Reach days where achievements unlocked some of the dopest armors. Or reaching lvl 50/5 Star General gave you special armors. I miss having a reason to play the campaign on Legendary with all skulls to get something really cool. I really do hope 343i figures it out before all of us just drop Halo like people did to Cyberpunk. Please for the love of gamers 343i, please bring back the Halo we all fell in love with all those years ago 
The ULLR Armor Pack.
The only item I want (out of 13 items) is the armor coating, which I REALLY do want.
@343, you will make more money if you sold the coatings for $2, always sold separately.
You will keep more players around, too, bc your transaction counts will be much higher.
Package all the Rakshasa chest plates together into 1 Deal.
Shoulders in another package.
Helmet attachments in another.
Etc etc.
Since we can’t use items cross-core, people may spend 1600 credits to invest in one armor type, with MANY variations. But your current business model is missing some business logic, and your shop is actually turning people off of the game. It’s doing WAY more harm than good.
I’m 40 years old, and I can afford $16 for an Armor Coating, but I’m not going to buy it bc you are pricing out 99% of your players at @1600 Credits.
Thats half the price of an Xbox Controller!
Many Armor designs are great, but they’re not NFT’s, OK?
If it’s too expensive to design these items, I’m certain the halo community would love to do it for free!
We’d love Halo. But your business model is unsustainable, which really does affect us, too. The biggest reason people don’t spend money is because they don’t know how long this game is going to be around, as is.
If you want to save your game, do you need to stop insulting us all with your shop prices. There is no better way to lose players forever than to do what you’re doing.
The prices are so high people wonder if you’re gonna pack your bags like next week!
Cap your shop at 300 credits for 3 months and then make a decision about the future of the game afterwards.
I guarantee you your numbers will improve across-the-board.
Please sell coatings a la carte.
Yes exactly I’m done with the microtransactions in Halo Infinite. Plus what’s up with the term ‘‘Broader Audience’’ when Halo is Xbox’s popular icon for years since 2001? And the non canon halo show already exists in RedvsBlue. A don’t forget the cook book. 343 needs to get there head straight cause if they don’t then Halo MCC might get microtransactons in the far future. And that spells doom in the community with players showing off their money and insulting another players low budget crisis, 343 should think about this stuff instead of picking our pockets.
Coatings need to go, lack of armor through reasonable message. Honestly this game would profit more from selling living visors. Name plates assassinations and vehicle skins of it would just street away from selling coatings in a way we can’t customize and take ANY ARMOR that is battle pass out of the store. Fracture armors make TOTAL sense to be in the store. Id rather see fracture armors in the store and only one variant for it in the event pass AND CRAZY mk7 armor.
WE KNOW cross core is coming so there’s no reason that mk 7 can’t continue to have half BP earn and half store -Yoink!- well.
Things like crazy special armor pieces are fine! Drakkon shoulders? Wolf shoulders!? WOLF HELMET PLEASE!? Yea if downs my game pass perk money on that!
If halo wouldn’t have done this id have another reason to not live in destiny.
Y’know, I have to give credit where it’s due. With Infinite they did make the MP free-to-play unlike games like Overwatch and Siege which adds lootboxes and other practices on top of a game you’ve already paid for. There’s no lootboxes and you know exactly what you get when you buy something. That’s something that other games just won’t pick up on F2P or otherwise. All and all they’ve refused to add some seriously predatory schemes.
I can’t blame them on the customization choices. Colors and armor pieces are just low hanging fruit and there a decent chunk you can get with the base game. I can’t blame them for charging on special sets (though I do think they’re overpriced, but that just means I won’t buy them), and I can’t blame them for locking a bunch of them away behind the battle pass. The game needs to make money for basic services and needs to be profitable or else we would have any games like the Halo series to begin with. I can’t blame them for wanting to make money on their investment.
What I will blame them on it progression for the battle pass. You pay for a thing, you expect to receive the content featured in the thing, not to have it locked behind a progression paywall. Ranking up requires an insane amount of grinding playing modes that you don’t want to play in ways you don’t want to play them. To add insult to injury, you otherwise would have to pay $2 per level to level up! That means getting everything would cost roughly $210! For one season! And let’s face it, any of us with full time jobs, or family’s, or other serious commitments (or in many cases all three) Are basically expected to shell out additional income if they hope to get everything they already paid for.
If they changed progression to a performance based system like just about every other game in existence, I think the system would be in a good place. I’m not going to berate them for trying to make an income, this is a business after all (a detail gamers always like to forget). However I am going to call them out when they’re effectively making people pay twice for content they’ve already paid for.
The multiplayer is free … If you buy the game pass ultimate in Canada, it costs about $240.00 a year, the amount of playtime each game requires to rank up means most people will play only 1 possibly 2 games, so yeah multiplayer is free. If you purchased the campaign, in Canada it’s $80.00 plus tax, so yeah the multiplayer is free. Don’t make me laugh … FREE. Hook Line and Sinker
I can’t say I agree with all of your points.
But I agree with a lot of them. Like I said above I don’t think armor cores that come from the bp should have pieces in the store and if they do they shouldn’t be a 20 bundle. I get specialty pieces as well like crazy radios or even backpacks coming back. BUT I really think the store should become a catalog accessible from with the armory
Also. Coatings are fine and dandy, but allowing players to customize one of our own and selling patterns and materials is a great way to make even more money. For instance: a single material would make sense to buy at one for 200 creds. Something basic like matte or rust.
But something like prismatic or sparkle or even battle torn can cost 500 a pop. Or sell a bundle of 5 for 2000 creds.
If a custom coating browser was added as well think of how NUTTERS the community would be? People like coating KIND OF if they could custom…but to be able to download another’s coating with the option to buy the textures as well prompting a sense of urgency. I’m sure someone will find a way to make the Armor titan from AOT. Id buy a flood like carapace or fleshy armor skin. I’m sure thats A material worth a lot.
I don’t think the battle pass is terrible. It’s a decent little value especially if I can just keep earning my creds after the season ends I’ll play catch up when I can. But I do agree that it’s crazy the cost of leveling and the grind to get through it is nuts.
I totally agree we need skill based and medal based xp gain. This 50 XP a game takes forever and is predatory because it forces full timers to pay or give up free time because of fomo.
I love the gun play, I love the armor, I love the story, and I love this games legacy. I’m not beating on it because I hate it, these are collective woes from across the forum. I just want to see halo heal and move in a direction that is suitable for us players AND 343.
I don’t mind spending a 20 or a 50 here or there every couple months for one or two things, but what’s the point of nothing changes?
I’m sure they can handle coatings many different ways, my main point was that what we currently have isn’t bad. Perhaps it can be better, just I don’t see it as being the main problem. I don’t mind the battle pass in of itself, just the progression system and how grindy it is can make it take too long. It feels like the only way to progress is to either pay up for leveling boosts or spend more free time than I have playing this game.
I really don’t mind paying for things like the battle pass every now and then. Subscription fees used to be very common, and the F2P model can be beneficial when it’s not predatory. If they just swapped challenges for performance based progression the battle pass imo would be fine.
As for the bundles…I don’t think they’re worth it, but I’m not going to knock them for naming their price. If they think they can sell these for the prices they’re asking, well all the more power to them. I personally think if they added more options and lowered the price they’d get more overall traffic and purchases, but as it is I’m just not going to buy it. I’ll put it this way, at the end of the day it’s up to us to determine whether the price is worth it, but at least the system’s honest. They’re not wrong for asking what they are, but you’re also not wrong for not liking it. Whether it’s pricing or having it forced in a bundle. Perhaps your (and other players’) not buying it would prompt them to consider selling individual cosmetics while offering the whole bundle as a discount. I can be better granted, but it could also be a lot worse and often is. For that they do have my respect in that regard.
I don’t know if this was directed at me (still not very good with this website’s UI), but yes the MP is free. I play on PC and downloaded on Steam. No game pass, no nothing. I can play this game and not pay a single penny. So yes it is indeed free. And campaign isn’t multiplayer, in case you were wondering. They were very upfront about the pricing between the two.
I don’t think that fixing these customization options will fix halo. I think it will shut a lot of people; myself included, up.
I stand by everything I had said before on BP and armors. Some sure, as long as fracture or crazy items like cat ears, radios and backpacks. But BASIC armor is kinda nuts to me. Fracture armor and specialty (crazy design or backpacks) only.
Fix the SBMM
The desync
The loading into bad matches
Vehicles. So on.
But I don’t see it coming quickly…
what i hate the most as well is that 343 absolutely hates playable elites always coming up with some bad excuse after excuse ever since halo 4 why they dont want to add playable elites and instead always catering to spartans every halo game they make and with every season they make for HCC with only ONE elite dedicated season and barely any cosmetics for covenant weapons and vehicles in MCC as well as no cosmetics for banished vehicles and weapons in infinite. hurry up and add playable elites already 343!
Regardless of what they should have done, here we are with a F2P Halo. They are going to fix the coatings to be cross core. Armor seem to follow after. There will be a progression system, but dont know if there will be armor in that.
Like it or not, we’re stuck with the store no matter what. But they could at least make the store a catalog with consistent and fair prices (which means I dont feel like they are consistent nor fair now).
Both of the armor bundles up this week feel like they should be half price, if not then at least under $10.
You want us to buy stuff, fine. I get it. You want to follow the microtransaction trend. But holy crap cut us a deal and quit walling off your items.
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Nah, I don’t think it’s a cash grab, I’m enjoying Infinite as is
I mean technically speaking 343i have an existential obligation to publish Halo games because if they don’t they’d cease to exist. But they’re utterly terrible at it and so many technical and design choices they’ve made are so bizarrely misinformed that the franchise has been on a downward spiral since they got the reigns.
The degree of microtransactions & season pass model is 100% a cash grab but the rest of the game is so bare it makes sense because they must’ve thought if they sold the game as a full p2p product its sales would tank. Except this is false, because the fanbase was and is huge and everyone would buy it. So instead we’re left with these garbage microtransactions for no reason. Ofcourse this wouldn’t have fixed the fact that 343i have made a mess of this games development & that it is still far from complete. So maybe f2p was a calculated acknowledgement of the fact the game is broken.
Basically though the end result is the game is unfinished and has an awful anti consumer business model and all of that is squarely 343i’s fault.
No matter who’s at fault here, PSA: DON"T BUY ANYTHING FROM THIS GAME OR HALO RELATED. MFers aren’t gonna get the message and fix this sh*t until we stand up for ourselves.
This game is still a broken mess from hit detection to actual community feedback on fixing anything. The only time I would ever say segregation would be a good thing is in Halo Infinite and not forcing us to play with auto aim console users. my first battle pass was spent with my own money, the second one was with a micrsoft credit. no more dimes or time of mine will be put into this game until it is fixed.