343i Castle Stream exposed DMR myth

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For anyone who watched the 343i Castle Map Pack Live Stream, it was obvious to all, as I have said in many threads on this forum, that someone with a decent skill set, can rock with the BR and that the DMR is not as bad as many of you have made out.

The live stream focused on one dude, who went with the BR in every game mode and he owned with it. The Castle Map pack is larger maps so the DMR rubbish that many have spoken of has been exposed as a myth.

343i prior to the launch of Halo 4 stated in print and on video, what the AR, BR and DMR where each good for and not so good for. They pointed out the AR was CQC, BR close to mid and DMR mid to long. The DMR is not as effective at close rage as many of you mislead others to believe. Shock! Horror! Post launch of Halo 4, the AR, BR and DMR perform exactly how 343i stated they would.

It might not have been intentionally, but, we now have visual recorded proof that the BR is fine and can be used effectively on big maps. Further, this may cause 343i to stop, pause…think again…before making any changes to the DMR. They have shown the BR is fine and can hold its own in the right hands.

I have long argued on this forum that the majority of people who complain about the DMR are players who do not play smart. They do not use strategy well nor plan things out. They simply don’t have what it takes to outplay a DMR user. It is not, therefore about the weapon but, about the skill or lack thereof, the player making the complaints.

I have exposed many,many people making threads about the DMR as making false statements. They might claims that the DMR was used by everyone in so many games they recently played. I’d go to their own Waypoint stats and prove them wrong. Others would claim not to use the weapon or hardly use it and I’d prove them wrong. Others again would give examples of where the DMR is apparently OP,for example,on Ragnarok in relation on and around Top Middle; that is not the DMRs fault but you and others, who like Lemmings keep flying off the Man Canon or keep running out in the wide open fields time and time again, to be killed. Think smart! Play better! The DMR user won’t kill you as much!

Thank you 343i for exposing the myth about the DMR.

Thank you 343i, whether intentionally or not, following a player of those couple of hours who showed you can own with the BR if you have a decent skill set.

In conclusion, the DMR does not need a nerf!

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I will not believe a stream about weapon stats.
I want to see an even side by side comparison.

Not everyone at 343i is a master at this game.

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A moderator in the chat even stated that the reason the BR was looking powerful was because it was LAN, and the spread is far more accurate in LAN connection. In matchmaking, it’s a completely different story.

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> Some random guy owned some random people with the Battle Rifle, so therefore the Battle Rifle is balanced.

Wow, what a well thought out argument. I can’t find any holes to poke in that…

> The DMR is not as effective at close rage as many of you mislead others to believe.

What are the DMR’s downsides at close range exactly?

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Side-by-Side the DMR is a bit OP. It’s not nearly as bad as a lot of people make it out to be, however.

My recommendation would be a TINY rate of fire nerf and a bullet magnetism nerf.

Now that I mention it, the whole Halo 4 sandbox could do with a small bullet magnetism nerf.

Then we can have everyone spawn with the same frag grenades and secondary magnums and everything will be alright!

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That guy was using promethean vision the whole time so I don’t really think it counts.

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> I will not believe a stream about weapon stats.
> I want to see an even side by side comparison.
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> Not everyone at 343i is a master at this game.

The men and women who played are the actual people who play th game day in and day out testing it before things go live.

A stream, is actual video evidence of live game play…it is more valued than the dribble most post on these forums with nothing more than words which are false to back their points about the nasty DNR up. Evidence they provide is time and time again proven false.

Side by side comparison means nothing…that is one in a controlled environment and does not simulate real game play. It does nothing but show the rate of fire of a weapon…the spread and other things which is in a controlled sterile setting. On the other hand, in a real game, many other factors, such as individual skill, enable a BR player to outplay a DMR user. That is a fact.

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> A moderator in the chat even stated that the reason the BR was looking powerful was because it was LAN, and the spread is far more accurate in LAN connection. In matchmaking, it’s a completely different story.

OK, thanks for pointing that out. I did not know…that would make a difference.

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> On the other hand, in a real game, many other factors, such as individual skill, enable a BR player to outplay a DMR user. That is a fact.

Yes, a person with a 2-shot kill Battle Rifle can lose against someone using a 6-shot kill Battle Rifle if the other person is better.

That doesn’t make them remotely balanced. It just means one player was better than the other, not that the weapons were equal.

There is absolutely no reason the DMR shouldn’t be nerfed, because according to your logic is makes no difference either way since an inferior DMR could beat a BR so it would be balanced even if the DMR was a pile of -Yoink-. Are you really incapable of seeing how flawed that reasoning is?

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Ironically, you say those that say the DMR is OP’ed are actually all just terrible at the game, and cite the live stream, where a player is using the BR to stompy efficiency against DMR users as an example of how “balanced” the DMR really is, yet you completely neglect to consider the opposite scenario to the same logic you just used: that the only reason he was doing god-tier with the BR was because he was fairly good enough, and everyone using the DMR just sucked.

I don’t doubt the DMR is no where near as bad as people say it is, but to say the DMR is fine because someone, somewhere, got a lot of kills with a BR in a video once is illogical. Numbers don’t lie: DMR is OP’ed. It kills faster, is more accurate, has less bullet spread and more aim assist than any other rifle in the game. To what degree is up for debate, but what’s not is that it is OP’ed.

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> What are the DMR’s downsides at close range exactly?

The Assault Rifle.

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> > What are the DMR’s downsides at close range exactly?
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> The Assault Rifle.

I meant downsides compared to the Battle Rifle.

Unless you are being facetious.

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The only time I will ever believe someone that says the DMR is not OverPowered is when his most used weapon is not the DMR, otherwise it is OP.

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> > > What are the DMR’s downsides at close range exactly?
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> > The Assault Rifle.
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> I meant downsides compared to the Battle Rifle.
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> Unless you are being facetious.

No gun in the game has any downsides compared to the BR.

And I was, a little.

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The DMR is not OP

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> The DMR is not OP

You got proof of that?

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See my most used weapon.

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I fail to see how one person killing a dmr user disproves that the dmr is the best rifle in the game.

The dmr has the fastest kill time out of the precision weapons(except for light rifle scoped in), it has a large amount of aim assist, bullet magnetism, and the longest range. The only weapon that can truly compete with the dmr is the scoped in light rifle . The only way the light rifle can even compete is if it scoped in the entire time and you land every shot.

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> See my most used weapon.

Respectable, I wish more people like you would be forward about it,then I might change my option about DMR.

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> > The DMR is not OP
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> You got proof of that?

You got proof it is OP? And don’t give me a side by side comparison. Sniper rifles kill faster than magnums but which is easier?