343i, are you high?

Sure, enjoy your $20 digital bucket that you rarely get to see.

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Yowch, that much? Geez…

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I agree. They should at the very least be valued based off of the BP. They’re selling reach shoulder pads in store for $7 which requires owning the BP to use… I would pay 50 credits for both of those shoulder pieces, not 700. The reach armor should be included in the BP anyway. The fact that they put it in the store makes me never want to buy another BP again. They really blew it. They’re actually making me feel something I thought impossible. I’m beginning to dislike Halo. :frowning:

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Yeap.
Or, you could, you know… wait for the prices to go down and see if it ever returns again. Not that that’ll ever happen if we don’t fight for it.

Yeah. To call it sad is a bit of an understatement.

The UA/Multi threat armor pieces from Reach (I forget what the Infinite name for them is) were just added to the store. While I didn’t particularly care for them, I learned that ALL of the remaining Reach armor (which is half of what was ever in the game) will all be paid from here on out. I miss my Operator helmet, CQC shoulders and HP/Parafoil chest and looked forward to them being added to the game. But if I have to pay $25 to unlock them and use them on the armor core I’ve already paid for, forget it.

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Yep.

You know what’s funny? If they took challenge swaps and XP boosts and grants and the ability to purchase levels OUT of the BP, and put all this stuff IN, and charged $20 instead of $10, not only would we all be happy as a clam - except for the exorbitant shop prices - but they’d make a ton more on people buying XP boosts instead of buying levels.

Probably. I haven’t done all the math on that one, nor do I have all the statistics. Still, seems feasible.

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I was kind of expecting there to be a second Reach season sometime in the future. Since only half of it is there now, it would make sense that the second half would fill up another season. And I would have accepted that. It would have been another $10, but that would have gotten you all of the rest of the armor plus whatever other new stuff they throw in. I don’t know what the pricing will be on all of the pieces, but based on what I’ve seen so far I would be surprised of the 3 pieces of armor I want come in at anything less than $20. And I’m not paying double the season pass price for a small set of armor.

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Well I’m glad and sad to tell you that in the leaks I have seen of what will release in the shop, the Operator Helmet wasn’t in it cause it just wasn’t made in Infinite by 343 apparently.
On the infuriating side for you and me, the Commando, Recon and CQC shoulders will be shop bundle.
Don’t remember if there is also the parafoil chest, gonna have to check again.

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Right because infinite has dashes (excluding the pick up), hover in air while aiming and that god forsaken ground pound? They’ve balanced sprint with radar, and it’s barely faster than normal movement. Halo 2+3 are very similar to Infinite. Sure the sandbox has problems, and sure Halo 5 was monetized as well, but wake up dude. Infinite has no customization or progression while having solid gameplay. Contrarianism isn’t a good look on you.

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Just saying, you are sadly mistaken thinking this knowing how many naive players are these days.

Case and point. Activision Blizzard made 1.2 billion within 3 months.

I did say no one in their right mind lol

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They are high they made the commando total trash because of baby trolls from the forums this crap is why i quit halo for years. These are the people who dont wont people with good aim to always win in games they said the forums lol . Really thats not Pc gaming at all? lol

Actually, that is right :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Uh… little off topic there bud but yeah the commando could use a good buff.

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Even that in my opinion is a little too high personally I think their prices need to be at the maximum for a single item $2.30 any higher than that for a single item is ridiculous and if it’s a bundle the highest it should ever be is like $15 and it better be worth it in the long run it needs to give you like 20 different things and not a bunch of the exact same armor coating or the same emblem for your armor gun and all that crap like just make the emblems one item same with the shoulder pads that should be one item I get there two separate items that you can wear but they shouldn’t be sold separately

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An assumption by you, counter to years of market research and profits generated for other games by the very practices you say will kill this game.

If you can find something where they definitively said one thing and did another with malicious intent, I get this gripe. The key word though is “definitively”. You’re not gonna get anywhere on inference or using consumer assumptions as a basis for your argument.

Pressure how? How are they holding you hostage with something you don’t need? FOMO doesn’t exist without the consumer feeling some need or want for the thing, hence “fear of missing out”. Thousands of people have played Halo for years because they liked playing Halo. Cosmetics or no cosmetics, everyone with the applicable hardware and an online connection can continue to do so, and this time for free. Your argument also hinges heavily on the disposition that 343i is somehow gouging for their cosmetics, which is just flatly inaccurate when compared to the marketplace. They are within competitor pricing for similar content. You wanna say FTP practices industry wide are gouging consumers, at least that’s a more accurate base for an argument, but it’s still not a great one.

The person selling the thing determines its pricing and the market determines its value, arguing against this is literally arguing against the core concept of economics. A good argument behind why stuff shouldn’t cost X needs to come with a reasonable alternative of you want to be taken seriously.

I’m not trying to silence squat, I’m trying to give perspective to people that sorely need it because poor feedback is literally just complaining and the forum is flooded with it. Your whole complaint boils down to “stuff costs more than I think it should”. A few hundred people on a forum do not overturn market data of millions of players generating billions of dollars over years on similarly priced microtransactions, they simply do not. There are several components of this games approach to FTP that require tuning and QOL adjustments, but the price isn’t out of touch with with current market, thus an argument over price gouging has no real footing outside of “I don’t like it”. Subjective dispositions like that and morality won’t get you anything tangible, unless all you’re after is the validation from a few dozen like minded people on a forum.

Real issues with this game would be things like locking cosmetics choices like coatings and visors to an armor core to drive redundant purchase. Things like a challenge and swap system that encourages purchasing of random swaps, XP boost or pass levels just to able to complete progression. That kind of stuff is plain insulting to your consumer, expecting them to pay money for stuff that has an established value isn’t.

We shall see. Until something changes, whether this is “just complaining” or not, this complaining is what’s going to happen.

“This complaining” is what killed Anthem and what fixed Battlefront 2. It’s what got backwards compatibility on the Xbox One. Public outcry is where change happens when the whales won’t vote with their wallets.

So if you don’t mind, I - and the rest of us who care to - will be “just complaining” until a change is made.
And if you do mind, so be it. And if it floods the forums, so be it. Change doesn’t come from complacency.

Now, while I’m hoping that one day you’ll eat your words, I’m not so naive to think that such a thing is an absolute. But. Gotta try.

So if you’re done, please kindly stop spewing your negativity that “isn’t trying to silence squat” even though it’s attempting to do exactly that.

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Vote with your wallet. Don’t spend a dime till this system gets the overhaul it needs to be more player friendly.

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That’s part of the solution. But unfortunately, the people on this forum and on reddit combined would hardly make a dent in profits, even if we managed to get every single one to boycott.

The other part of the equation is public outcry.

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Yes, we need to keep hammering them about almost everything that isn’t core gameplay and sound design. Such a barebone product right now.

The complaining part is especially important after the campaign honeymoon phase is over if we want changes.

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