343, you’re catering to way too many casuals that post in these forums. I don’t know if you guys think that the casuals that spam these forums are the “community”, but whatever.
And sorry, but I can’t put it any more direct and truthful way than that.
You guys are trying WAY TOO HARD to please what’s left of the “community” that hasn’t quit Reach already, you know, the casuals who never took the game seriously to begin with.
You’re forcing the TU up our -Yoinks!-, giving ridiculously easy Daily Challenges with HUGE payouts, and adding horrible forge maps to the already awful selection of maps present in matchmaking.
Back when Bungie was in charge, you had to EARN your rank at the very freaking least. Now you just play a couple matches and BAM! 25,000 credits for challenges in half hour and BAM! 50,000 in the jackpot. Don’t forget the boosted Custom Challenges people make either. Back when Bungie was in charge, you could consistently play and practice a set amount of maps in your favorite playlist.
Now it’s all random gametypes, random bloom with 3 different variants, random pistol, random map objectives, random gray maps, and random bleedthrough BS.
Whatever. I’m done with Reach anyways. I’m just dissapointed that the newbies that didn’t care for Reach are being listened to by 343 now, and 343 seems to believe that what that tiny portion of the community wants should be applied to the whole freaking game.
That’s a first; the TU catering to casuals.
Wut? lol Casuals either don’t care about what the settings are or (what is the case on these forums) usually against the TU and hate anything that isn’t Hostball, Living Derp, or Vanilla. Those who are TU are not bad the game and those not all are god tier MM warriors (I.E me), we at least understand that Vanilla sucks. Though the TU is flawed as well, the lesser of two evils me thinks.
I think this latest batch of forged maps have been the most competetive yet.
I also think 343 is probably tired of reading posts like yours. Reach has been great since launch and the TU has only made it better.
I’d suggest being a bit less arrogant. It makes it hard to take you seriously.
uh huh, OP, you need to learn what a casual is …
> uh huh, OP, you need to learn what a casual is …
Yeah, Substitue Casual for ‘skilled’ ‘pro’ ‘pro-tu’ ‘protu’ or whatever is is that they refer to themselves as and it works fine.
> > uh huh, OP, you need to learn what a casual is …
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> Yeah, Substitue Casual for ‘skilled’ ‘pro’ ‘pro-tu’ ‘protu’ or whatever is is that they refer to themselves as and it works fine.
they refer to themselves as comptetive, but, i think hardcore, skilled and tryhard are more accurate.
I just posted in a dichotomously opposite topic, saying that the player and modding communities of Halo 1 would do better to be allowed to make suggestions as beta testers towards the development of the game and that modders and community content authors should be allowed to publish their map files officially.
I think the main issue here is not 343i but the tools that modders have: all I see are restrictions and limitations with Halo’s “Forge” (not to be confused with Marathon’s “Forge” or “Anvil”… or whatever it was called), whereas community members – at least among the mac modders at MacGamingMods – seek to make the best tools they can to mod the map files of the game.
343i, if they are at fault anywhere, has not given enough credit to its community members by working with them properly; providing tools that are actually worthwhile (consider that kornmann00 had to release a hacked version of Guerilla and ahobo release a hacked version of Sapien) unlike Forge where you can’t do a fraction of the things Eschaton lets you do, and speaking with the community members not as if they were little children whose ambitions need to be placated and pacified but as the brilliant creative geniuses that they are who can revolutionize this game into something much better than it is now.
I needed a good laugh this morning 
TU is catering to the casuals…HAH! Yah right.
If you dislike the TU…you’re the casual.
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Thanks OP, I needed a good laught.
> Thanks OP, I needed a good laught.
laught?
> > > uh huh, OP, you need to learn what a casual is …
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> > Yeah, Substitue Casual for ‘skilled’ ‘pro’ ‘pro-tu’ ‘protu’ or whatever is is that they refer to themselves as and it works fine.
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> they refer to themselves as comptetive, but, i think hardcore, skilled and tryhard are more accurate.
I would say they’re Intense Competitive Settings players, ICS-players.
There are a few tryhards that are very vocal but the majority of the players they are attempting to represent do just want a “more consistent playing experience” for themselves.
These players have specific locally and globally balanced ideals that don’t mix with a varied sandbox.
So as long as the Long/Battle Rifle, Shotgun, Rockets and Sniper work certain ways, the ICS community as a whole will be very happy.
The 2-weapon game-play isn’t any less competitive, but it does involve tactics these ICS players wish they didn’t have to deal with as they can lead to very uncertain payoffs. By restricting the number of uncertain payoffs, these players are able to make decisions much quicker and easier, relative to the game-play at hand.
Reach catered to casuals. The TU has made the game come down to skill again. (somewhat)
Also, “casuals” are not those who come on the forums. We are the die hards.
> Reach catered to casuals. The TU has made the game come down to skill again. (somewhat)
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> Also, “casuals” are not those who come on the forums. <mark>We are the die hards.</mark>
Are you kidding? The Forums are chock full of both groups and it’s a veritable fact.
How ironic, you’re also the ones who cry hard as well. It’s not that the “casuals” don’t come on the forums, we just don’t flood it with verbal tantrums and calling a company out b/c they didn’t get what they want.
This is how most of your “die hard” threads are viewed by “casuals”.
> > Reach catered to casuals. The TU has made the game come down to skill again. (somewhat)
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> > Also, “casuals” are not those who come on the forums. <mark>We are the die hards.</mark>
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> Are you kidding? The Forums are chock full of both groups and it’s a veritable fact.
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> How ironic, you’re also the ones who cry hard as well. It’s not that the “casuals” don’t come on the forums, we just don’t flood it with verbal tantrums and calling a company out b/c they didn’t get what they want.
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> This is how most of your “die hard” threads are viewed by “casuals”.
actually, casuals don’t visit forums because they are not pationate about the game, they just float on past but also make up the majority of gamers.
> actually, casuals don’t visit forums because they are not pationate about the game, they just float on past but <mark>also make up the majority of gamers</mark>.
Passionate*
Happen to be monitoring site traffic and who’s what? B/c I don’t think you can make that claim and guarantee it.
Again, there seems to be this egotistical notion that just A) Casual/Fun shouldn’t be allowed or extremely limited. It’s called a video game. Not a video game competition. It’s for fun before all. B) Posting excessively (and pretty egotistical about it as well) automatically makes them more of a fan/die hard than me and those like me? As if my money wasn’t good enough. Yet the “cry hards” get up in arms when Bungie wanted to let their last game go out just a little differently.
Boo-frickin’-hoo.
If I wanted to sound as smug as the “cry hards”, I’d say that being you think we’re the majority, we should get what we want. Then again, I don’t run a game company. I honestly have no right to tell said company how to make their game. How do these mooks think the world works?
I don’t like how McDonalds cooks my burger. You can’t really ask them to make it rare or meduim well? You take what you get but you certainly don’t have to eat there. This is no different.
> > actually, casuals don’t visit forums because they are not pationate about the game, they just float on past but <mark>also make up the majority of gamers</mark>.
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> Passionate*
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> Happen to be monitoring site traffic and who’s what? B/c I don’t think you can make that claim and guarantee it.
casuals don’t visit forums, it’s part of being a casual, casual lack passion about the game, no dedication, they just want to play and have as much fun as possible, if they don’t like the game they aren’t going to go on the forums and say something, instead, they will move onto the next game.
if you’re visiting a forum about a game then you’re hardcore, you have passion about the game, you are interested in stories, communities, the future of the game and such.
WHOA! The TU changes were NOT for casuals. Quite the opposite. Casuals were fine and dandy with the Vanilla settings it was the mlg tryhards, the supposed “hardcores” that got the TU changes introduced. Heck, MLG even threatened to drop Reach if TU changes weren’t presented (I have no idea if they ever did, I don’t keep up with egotistic pseudo sports).
It was the Hardcore community that demanded bleedthrough, reduced bloom and AA nerfs. So if anything, you should be telling 343 to stop listening to it’s “hardcore” community… you know… to stop listening to people like you…
