The 12v12 mode is my favorite multiplayer mode in Infinite. The reason is that teamwork can be developed by everyone who has experience with coop games.
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Again, CONTENT. Do you understand what that means? cheaters and hit detection issues are important yes, but these things are almost irrelevant to the average player.
If 343i fixed Desync tomorrow it would do almost NOTHING in terms of keeping players, Infiniteās problems are far more difficult and deeper than a lot of people make them out to be.
I donāt play Infinite and think āwow golly gee if only Desync was fixed this would be the best Halo everā no I look at Infinite and think its a year maybe two years behind what it needs in terms of content to be remotely competitive in todayās gaming market.
Just ignore him. He does a lot of bad takes and likes to assert his opinions as facts.
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Iām not so sure about thatā¦they have both reached critical points tbh. The lack of content is making the game boring and repetitive, but the desync has been killing this game pretty much since day one. All my casual friends have stopped playing due to the hit reg being broken and because we donāt have a playlist where more than 8 can play together (ie BTB). Iāve asked them to play again since BTB was fixed a few days ago but they have no interest in playing a game where their shots donāt register or they die for no apparent reasonā¦itās just not for them.
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Lol They should ran a ā Spartan Simulation ā on there concept of ā Free to Play ā to see if it would actually work or not;
I honestly donāt feel like āfree to playā is the issue. It wouldnāt be a problem if the game launched with the content we except as fans from a Halo game as well as an anti-cheat.
The issue is something went wrong during development. Obviously the Covid pandemic didnāt help but the issue was definitely around prior to the pandemic. It seems to me that upper management is out of touch with their employees and there is a definite miscommunication between 343ās upper management and the upper management of Xbox.
The gaming industryās reliance on ācontractā employees is also a major issue. Not just for Halo but other games as well. Xbox would be wise to move away from this development method and move towards full dedicated teams with QA integrated into each team.
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Ive just logged on, first game. Practically emptied a BR into a dude running away from me and he didnāt die. I then get into a gunfight with another dude and dip into cover to recover my shield. Iām still taking damageā¦ I run around another cornerā¦ Iām still taking damage. I die and the camera zooms into a wall.
My ping is 28. I spent a total of a minute, maybe 2 max in Infinite before I hit ALT F4.
Tell me again how desync isnāt putting players off playing. I didnāt even manage a whole round today.
Game could have 1000 maps. It wouldnāt make a blind bit of difference when the game is as broken as it is right now.
Infinite is a broken pile of trash, playing any other shooting game just accentuates just how broken it is.
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Iām just not so sure. Bad management is bad management. I just think it still would have been broken at launch even if they delayed it. I donāt know if 343 needs a restructuring or something, but I donāt believe they are being given the right amount of resources for AAA game development. At least what we have been given and the little we know of whatās ahead gives me reason to think that. I guess they at least have a solid foundation for gameplay though.
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Iāve never seen nor heard of this, you are not experiencing desync, you are experiencing lots and lots of packet loss to say the least. Nothing 343i/MS does will ever solve lag lol.
What people mean by Desync is an occasional ghost melee (including backwhacks) or just things not matching up for both players. If you are teleporting around the map and none of your shots connect (could just be awful aim, but Iāll assume here that its not) it is a sign of packet loss.
To be fair to you Infinite on PC seems to be a dumpster fire so that kind of sums up your issues.
Iāve heard this so many times with so many different games that its sickening. I remember people would tell me how Gears 5 was unplayable and that they had X and Y issue yet I had spent hundreds (maybe thousands 
) of hours into the game and didnāt experience anything close to what they described.
Youāll see these Desync clips and stuff on Reddit but youāll never actually see it in an actual match (say from a streamer) so its all just personal heresay and obviously Iām going to value what my experience has been or what Iāve seen watching hundreds of hours of Infinite over what you tell me with no evidence and no real reason for me to think otherwise.
Many of us have experienced the same issues as described. Just because you havenāt doesnāt mean itās not happening. Iāve seen it on 200ms ping, Iāve seen it on 35ms ping. Itās not lag or packet loss.
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It is desync. Its when you lose synchronisation with the server, the guy I was shooting at wasnāt at the position my client was showing him to be just as the server wasnāt recognising me behind cover.
On PC you get a notification with packet loss, right next to the ping counter. That wasnāt present, my ping was solid the entire time.
From what ive read, thatās mainly down to the horrible optimisation or lack of it. My PC is an absolute unit, more than capable of running Infinite. For reference Iām runningā¦
Intel 12900k CPU @ 5.2ghz
Nvidia RTX 3090
32GB DDR4 at 3600mhz
Game is installed on 2x PCIE Gen 4 Nvme drives running in raid0. Read speed is about 10gb per sec if i remember right.
I can run this in 4k with no supersampling and ive capped the framerate at 140 fps as im only using a 120hz monitor.
Exactly.
So those clips and stuffā¦ what is that a screen recording of someoneās imagination?
Ill order you a āworks fine for meā statue, in the meantime, make do with this https://imgur.com/a/Iw3G9QC
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No but what makes you think they werenāt captured in bad faith? For example, youāll notice that the vast majority never have the freaking ping counter at the top right which makes things very suspicious to say the least.
I recall being put into a 300 ping server (which was some serious BS I might add) now imagine me recording every single thing in that game then showing it on Reddit without the ping counter? Its easy to take things out of context use like 5 seconds of footage throughout the course of a 15 minute game and say āgame is brokenā when in reality its an outlier not common.
Edit: I recognize it as an issue for some people, but my whole point is that the lack of content is an issue for EVERYONE not just a select few. I consider that the single largest issue and I do not believe it is close.
Oh yes please tell me all about the huge sums of wealth you spent on your PC, only to find out its almost worthless for Infinite.
Like I was saying though, you couldāve just said you played on PC and nothing else and it wouldāve summed up things nicely for me lol. Same reason if someone tells me theyāre playing on last gen consoles I immediately understand their frustrations with the game.
Well it works far better for everyone Iāve ever watched play the game, so I just find this interesting why this is only ever really touched upon in text? If this were so common it wouldāve been far more scrutinized, not just by fans but by basically any Youtuber or Streamer or just gaming journalist (whatever that means)
You donāt have to look all that farā¦
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/desync-is-a-major-issue-please-help-me-bring-awareness-to-it/
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My biggest contribution to this forum has been in the geo filtering thread. I freely admit to being a dirty cheating scummy geo fencer. With that in mind, it goes without saying when I say Iām connected to the Dutch server with a ping of 28, Iām not lying or exaggerating.
I just went online and captured this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8k5_aW3Tos
Just so you know its not old footage, here is a link to the game played 15 minutes ago from posting this.
https://halotracker.com/halo-infinite/match/9765e2d9-0c6a-480c-8779-a7c695b102c4
Watch me get shot around a corner and tell me again this is how shooting games should work.
(Yes my stats in this game are horrible. I cant take a game serious when its this broken)
This is my second game of the evening. The first i alt f4ād out of earlier. This game is broken. You wont convince me otherwise.
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Now all that needs to happen is 343 needs to log into the forums and read. Oh wait, they show no sign or ever reading these. I swear theyāre just closing their eyes and plugging their ears and going ,ā Nah nah nah nah I canāt hear youā when the fans post lots of this stuff.
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Nothing in this thread is convincing nor changes my mind. Theyāre just reporting it, nothing against the OP in that thread just that anybody could say almost anything, I like proof and such.
Interesting that you showed 9 seconds of footageā¦ Did you not read anything I just stated? Even if you just take a look at the radar it shows the game bugging out (also, isnāt that Tactical Slayer? Why is there a radar? Are you hacking?) so hard to really use it as a major issue. By that logic, I could point out all the blood shots that youād see in Halo 3 (even on LAN) and say Halo 3 was garbage and that Bungie shouldāve been ashamed of themselves and etc.
Regardless, it has been speculated to death as to the root cause. Some say its because of all the different platforms, some say its server issues, some say its netcode and so on. I seriously wonder if 343i have any method of improving it realistically, so with that in mind it could just be another one of those issues that is never addressed.
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No its theatre mode as you can clearly see by the options in the upper left hand corner of the screen. The radar is bugging out cause again, its another half baked feature of infinite that doesnāt work properly.
I could clip things from earlier in the match like where i put three bursts into a player and got hit markers but no kill too. But this was the most obvious BS death of the game.
If the desync was sporadic and every now and again, id be forgiving. For me ive played two games tonight, both were horribly broken. In that case its a 100% failure rate. The game is broken trash.
Iām not sh!tting on the game for the sake of it. I adore Halo. Played them all. I have Halo collectables. Ive bought and completed the battle pass, in the clip Iām wearing the cyber showdown premium armor. I want nothing more than the game to succeed but as its stands as a shooting game its fundamentally broken sadly.
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It was delayed.
And it was delayed a second time.
And a third time.
The problem is that the investors that want their profits share now want the late-fee compensation for all of these delays.
As a result, it was either launch now with BS pricing or delay again and then have the game be complete but having to charge players for literally EVERYTHINGā¦ ā¦ ā¦ or go bankrupt.
Why not just show the entire match? Why are you cherry picking specific parts to show how bad it is?
I also find it interesting that you use Tactical Slayer (which is obviously the most negatively impacted mode by latency or by Desync by far.) I could just as easily say that Tactical Slayer is awful because of hackers.
yeah 9 seconds of footage is not enough to really change my opinion. This is like how people love to take peopleās words out of context and use it against them on the news or just in general, it is in bad faith.
Also, why am I not seeing it on your (Iām presuming?) YT channel? Did you take it down? and why?
I think it is very optimistic to believe that 343i would have released Infinite in a better state with more time. Again, they had 5 years then got another year and still didnāt put their best foot forward. I personally think 343i is a case of bad management and not so much 343i themselves. Infinite is just like their other Halo games (best one yet though, to be fair) that underdeliver and overpromise.
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343 has a problem with how itās staff view Halo.
Halo 4ās dev team makeup was mostly made up of people who didnāt like Halo, with many interviews having devs say they hated Halo and wanted it to be something else.
Halo 5ās dev team was dumb enough to follow Brian Reed into the abyss and outsource all of their designs to a bunch of random artists, resulting in even weirder alien and Spartan designs.
Halo Infiniteās dev team is divided on whether or not to break Halo again or to fix it. Thankfully they are fixing it back to what it was, but there is resistance from the āmake Halo something elseā crowd that doesnāt learn that failure doesnāt mean ādo it againā.
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