343, you failed. Again

343, you have had this series for coming up on 10 years. Each and every entry you have put out has been a complete failure for one reason or another. In my opinion, Infinite is the most egregious simply because you got so close to putting out a good game. For the first time in 10 years, you actually got the gunplay right. Sure, some weapons need tuning but at Infinites core, you did it. However, the supporting systems of Infinite are not only lacking, but they are also completely and utterly broken; and you should be completely ashamed of the product you have produced. This game has SO MUCH potential to be great and you are letting it slip for so many reasons.

Desync - I thought the F2P model was because “seRvErS eXpEnSiVe sO pAy fOr BlUe”. Or is it you had so much turnover in the studio that you don’t even know how the netcode works? The game has so much more desync than even Halo 3 which had BLOOD SHOTS all the time. Yet, Infinite, continues to no Reg with every single gun that it has when in MP. We no longer actually see the blood come from the enemy so we can’t call it blood shots. Doesn’t matter what gun, AR, BR, Mangler, Shock Rifle etc. It can be REPLICATED by EVERYONE with how bad the hit reg in this game is.

Anti-Cheat - How in the world did a game in 2021 release WITHOUT an anit-cheat after the colossal failure of Warzone? You removed Red Reticle from PC to “Combat” cheating and for what? You removed a key part of visual combat from PC players because you were too lazy to implement an anti-cheat? WAT. There isn’t even an in-game report button - we need to record clips and make a ticket on waypoint. This is such an absurd amount of work for the normal player, which have already been driven off due to cheaters. MCC LAUNCHED with Easy Anti Cheat on PC; why couldn’t Infinite at the very least? We need a KERNAL level anti-cheat for Infinite since so many Pro Tournaments are being held online. The HCS online qualifiers have been plagued with cheaters and 343/HCS has done nothing to fix this. Outside of suspending Royal 2 for Geofiltering even though over half the PC population is doing so.

PC Stability - You have known since Flight 1 of Infinite that the PC build has been unstable. Yes, you have made improvements since then but since full release you have yet to acknowledge the stability of PC builds. Despite the embarrassment you received at HSC Raleigh with numerous crashes back-to-back on live stream, you have yet to say a single work on this. Instead, HCS (Tashi) blamed the prebuild manufacturer? That is unacceptable and if I were the owner of the company that provided those PC’s, we would never do business again. How dare you blame the builder of the PC when the issue lies within the game you released. There have been so many complaints and tickets raised regarding PC stability - you need to address this. I myself, submitted a ticket regarding the constant crashes I receive. Do you want to know what 343 did with said ticket? They told me to submit a new ticket with each crash and closed my original. I refuse to submit a NEW ticket each time I crash with Event viewer logs, DXDIAG, etc. I will UPDATE my ticket, not create a new one.

MMR/CSR/Hidden MMR - Yes, you said you were reworking this, and ranks will be reset - but WHAT are you reworking?? Are you uncoupling social MMR from ranked MMR? Are you removing MMR from ranked so CSR is the only metric? Are you reworking the unbalanced rewards/penalties for Wins/Losses? Are you fixing team balancing? Communicate what you are doing with us, that is all we ask. You said you would be transparent with communication, and you have failed that at each and every turn. That’s all we ask - talk to us.

Store - You know what you did. You know you are completely over charging for everything. You know you are the most expensive store front for any F2P game. The “Reductions” you put in aren’t actual reductions; we are paying hand over fist for a single item vs the entire bundle you had. I understand servers cost money, but ffs stop being so greedy. You are owned by Microsoft, these Azure servers you are using are not that expensive. I run over 300 of these servers in my Profession and it doesn’t cost anything in relation to the profits you must be making with the store. Absolutely horrible excuse.

Servers - What is the tick rate these servers are running? I’ve heard they are running at 15,20,30. I don’t know, but they are for sure, 100%, unequivocally SLOWER than MCC servers. You had to add a hit reg update to MCC H3 because you increased the tick rate to 60 which completely ruined how the bullets travelled in H3. Why does Infinite have SLOWER tick rates than MCC? Genuine question, I can’t think of a single reason why these servers are refreshing slower. Maybe that is why the desync issue is so prevalent.

General Failures - 3 months to fix the alignment of cosmetics - bro for real? MONTHS to change the X/Y axis of a mohawk? Make it make sense. This SHOULD take MINUTES to resolve, not months. UI changes - how is this UI so broken that you can’t edit the shop or add heavily requested playlists on the fly? Who designed this UI and why can’t it be adaptable? UI should NEVER be an excuse as to why changes can’t be made - and we’ve seen this excuse numerous times!

  • Shop Prices
    Obviously overpriced
    -Lack of content
    Ranked has 5 maps. Come on, we need at least 1 more. (Don’t bring back behemoth; it’s far too big for 4v4)
    -Inability to earn in game currency
    Yeah, you said we will be able to in Season 2, but how much can we earn? Will we be able to buy the season pass with earned currency like Warzone? or is it a handful of tokens?

Idk what the actual issue is if its management, corporate oversite (Microsoft), turn over, whatever. It is clear there needs to be restructuring of this company. Bonnie Ross MUST be FIRED from 343 as every single Halo launch under her guidance has been an initial failure. Out of everything 343 has produced, 1 thing is for certain each and every time, we can expect a bad launch every time you put out a new title.

So this whole post isn’t negative and only complaints, I loved the campaign. Sure, I wish there was Co-op, ability to replay missions, etc. The overall experience was great. I really enjoyed this campaign to the point that it brought a tear to my eye with the speech from Cortana. 20 years of Halo and seeing that speech was awesome. I’m genuinely excited to see where you can take it from here.

343, you have a gem on your hands for the first time since you took ownership of the Halo Franchise. Don’t continue the trend of failure and let down for the first year of release (3 years for MCC). Communicate with us, give us the road map you promised last month, continue to improve, and most importantly LISTEN TO YOUR PLAYERS. I have been playing Halo since Halo: CE launched, I love this series utterly and completely. The last thing I want to see is this series fail, but you need to stop producing failures.

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Infinite should have been delayed. Simple as that. The game has a foundation to be incredible. It’s just unfinished.

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not to mention that they said “built from the ground up for pc” yet they dont put pc players first. Crappy optimisations, crashing, game disconnects, and kbm players getting shafted for simply being on an input they want. This game shouldve been delayed till the end of 2023 or the fall of 2024 or completely scrapped as a project imo. It was a total mess and the reason they pushed it out early was to milk money off rich or stupid people. They succeeded in doing so because they know halo fans cant deal with their spartans looking trash. This game is a mess and will never be taken seriously as a game on the pc and kbm community. This game is a joke of an esports game too lmao. 343 officially killed halo for good.

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100% agree with all this except the esports. The online side, yes, broken completely. LAN on this game is insane how good it is. Completely different game. But getting this requires online qualifying so catch 22.

Also, yes, I don’t like my spartan looking bad. I bought the season pass the moment MP released and I have spent a total of $50 in the store - $60 was my max until I knew the MP was broken. Now I reget every dollar.

I have said since H5 that is 343 releases another bad Halo game I would be done for good. Yet I’m personally having trouble letting go. I love Halo so much at its core that I am putting myself through hell to play this damn game. I don’t think I have much left in me but I am willing to wait at least until Season 2 to make the actual decision. But if the way I feel now is even close to how Season 2 makes me feel, I’ll be done. I can’t keep defending this with my own involvement in the game.

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Completely agree with OP. Gunplay great and campaign lots of fun.

Most other stuff they screwed up, sometimes catastrophically. My Top 3 are:

  • Slowness in fixing stuff (eg. BTB, BTB-Challenges DeSync… )
  • Lack of Content (Maps, Modes, Coop (I don’t are too much for more customization))
  • Lack of Roadmap (+ the time they need to put one out looks extremely amateurish)

What I really don’t care are the store prices. Just don’t buy their overpriced crap and prices will plummet. Simple as that. This is the easiest and fastest way to get a fix. If this community would stop throwing money at them for one month there will be immediate changes. However this community is too dense to understand that. They think by crying out loud in the forums and simultaneously buying cat ears they will change anything. The only thing you change is the expression on 343i-faces because they are crying tears while laughing at you.

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This.

Post must be at least 20 chairs.

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The gunplay was already goat in halo 5. They shouldn’t be praised for this. On top of that the game isn’t played on lan most of the time. So lan should never be a conversation. This games gunplay is horrible because of how the game preforms.

Aim assist and magnitism is still strong if not stronger than Halo 5. It’s extremely easy to aim now.

There is barely any weapons and the weapons we do have. Most of them are one shot melee weapons. No prescision weapons. Where the carbine? Light rifle? And dmr?

Tha base gameplay itself is also buns. Stale and boring gameplay. Halo : limited. Stick in the mud gameplay

Campagin is too much of a departure from Halo 5. Therefore the campaign is uninteresting. Doesn’t matter if the gameplay is good if the story has been butchered to pieces. No co op either.

Along with the rest of the issues, this game is no where near close to being a good game. No amount of content is going to make this game better. No new maps. No new weapons. Forge is the only saviour at this point.

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I don’t know if a delay would have helped. I think this game was just mismanaged for a long time.

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It was absolutely mismanaged. But a delay would have allowed for most of the issues to be resolved. Plus allowed for co-op and forge to be available on launch. The delay from 2020 to 2021 helped a lot. Another year delay could have done wonders.

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Why would they actually care when they literally put it in plain sight using the CM to do their dirty work?

IMO if Microsoft had the balls to man up like Activision did to Bungie keeping them in line, things might have been a lot better. But Microsoft needs to grow a pair…

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I dont understand how a Game developer can create a game and release a game that has so many issues. 343i has turned all of us into Beta Testers. Why? Doesent 343i have people to do just that? :unamused: I have pretty much been playing MCC a lot more than Halo Infinite. Why? For the simple reason Halo MCC Works! Unlike Halo Infinite. :rofl:

I hope 343i will make the effort to read this post and dealt with.

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Its like you read what i have been thinking since launch. The guys are holding out hope that things will be reduced and they will be refunded the difference or offered some compensation… its utterly mental that these folks even have thoughts like that.

Put your wallets away people and kids, put your moms CC back in her purse.

Thats the only way you get things cheaper in the end.

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Thing is, Infinite was delayed, multiple times, and is still in this state today. How much would another year of development have helped? Maybe it would have allowed it to feel more content-complete at launch, or maybe it would have resulted in launching with just 1 or 2 more maps and slightly more graphics polish. Something went more deeply wrong with this game’s development, beyond just time constraints

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I agree with every word 100%. No killcam, no report button, no anti-cheat, no way to disable crossplay, no balance from the word at all. The team throws a player with kd: 30 kills and 4 deaths, are you crazy? Why this cyber cutlet in a match with regular players? 343 are you idiots? In a ranked battle, you make a match: 4 platinum against 1 silver, 2 gold and 1 calibration. 343 are you sick? How to play rating battles?

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Ranked is broken on so many levels, so much so that they are tweaking it soon and resetting everyones levels.

To be honest though, until the netcode is consistent, its pretty much a waste of time.

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They built a house on a busted foundation and they can’t even get whats already there to work properly. Imagine trying to add new things to this “live service” when the foundation isn’t solid. It might eventually become “stable” but its always going to be janky mess.

All of the upper management needs to go. I think it needs to fail, I think Microsoft needs to have multiple high profile failures because their 1st party quality has been trash since they became Game Pass “content” instead of top teir AAA titles.

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343: Players, we want your feedback!
Community: Okay, here you go
343: No, not like that!

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I find it funny that almost all of the stuff the OP mentioned are irrelevant to most people. Things like Desync or MMR aren’t too significant in my opinion, I was going back and watching Halo 3 tournaments (which were LAN) and I saw tons of blood shots lol, the reason that game was successful is because back in those days devs put their best foot forward so you didn’t have to wait 1-2 years for a game to be great, they were great day 1 maybe in a month at worst so Infinite was never going to be great with so little content even if all the things you said were not there.

I still think Halo 4 was 343i’s biggest failure. They had millions of potential customers/fans from 3/Reach era of Halo, they had tons of goodwill at that time because of the TU/map pack from Reach, they had all the ability to make a great Halo game back then that they do now, yet they decided to make Halo into a lame COD knockoff and spit in the face of like 90% of their playerbase that just wanted a more classic Halo than Reach. I would argue that Infinite never had any real chance of getting close to as much success as other Halo’s did because now there are like 5x the competition than there once was.

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You what mate?

Desync is brutally murdering Infinite. If people wanted to roll a dice they would play D&D.

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