Where to begin?
This would be an accurate representation of 343 logic:
For starters, they put out a game that takes out a lot of the core halo mechanics, such as set weapon spawns and power-up spawns and replace them with random ordinance. Camping made easier by your friendly neighborhood 343, you no longer have to go anywhere for a free power weapon.
You want customization options? We’re just going to make sprint default and unremovable (without modding), no player-customizable button layout and remove precision forging.
You guys want team snipers? We’re just going to give you regicide, SWAT and remove team snipers since no one played it due to our own crappy maps.
You want a regular FFA slayer? We’ll just give you FFA throwback and regicide. Still not enough? Then Team regicide!
You guys want smaller maps like every other halo game suitable for both casual and competitive gaming? We’ll give you a map pack full of btb maps!
You guys want casual and social playlists, as well as ranks! No problem! We’ll just give you none of them!
It’s as if they hired developers that enjoy every other game but halo.
A developer should be ranked by what they aim for and what they shoot. Lionhead studios is the worst Developers ever.
Clearly someone hasn’t heard of Sonic Team.
OK, um, a couple things here.
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Set weapon spawns are not gone. They spawn (or drop) right in front of your team, so everything is equal from the start.
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The core Halo mechanics are still there, and class customization is nearly the same as it was in Reach (with the exception of un removable sprint.)
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343 is by no means the worst developer ever. Give the people a break. They took the reigns to a massively successful franchise, and did a mighty good job for their first time. Halo 5 and 6 will be better. The key is patience. They have released possibly the most anticipated gaming sequel ever. And, add to that releasing new Spartan Ops missions each week, and a new map pack. It’s probably quite hectic at 343 right now.
Complaining about how much they suck here will not solve anything at all. The key is patience.
I personally see 343 Industries as a top team of talent.
Whatever they set out to do, I feel that they have accomplished it, aside from a few flaws. I mean, give them a break. 343i started out with practically nobody, built up a massive 300+ team of people from pretty much everywhere, came together, and put out a Halo game in probably the best new-studio takeover of a loved and huge franchise.
And give them a break. This is the team’s first title. They’ll learn.
I think Atari takes the cake on this little argument. 343i made 240 million in its initial launch ALONE. Atari made ET, (worst game in history) and the atrocious Jaguar 64, losing hundreds of millions of dollars in mere weeks. Now tell me who’s worse now?
Well to be fair Lionhead can only do what they can when their former lead front man was promising the moon with rainbows for wings and friendly genies for your best friends.
I think 343 gave you exactly what everyone wanted and then balanced it so no one was happy (save the newest branch of the Halo family… our Halo 4 generation. Don’t worry guys have fun with H4), while trying to walk a tight rope between core former generations of Halo gamers and the malleable market of newer FPS.
Agree. 100%.
343 has ruined the Halo franchise. Aside from the JOKE of a campaign (I mean really, that was a weak, weak effort) the balance and lag issues in H4 are horrible.
Thanks for nothing 343, back to Halo Reach I go. Next time you’re given an opportunity as such, try not to completely eff it up.
> Agree. 100%.
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> 343 has ruined the Halo franchise. Aside from the JOKE of a campaign (I mean really, that was a weak, weak effort) the balance and lag issues in H4 are horrible.
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> Thanks for nothing 343, back to Halo Reach I go. Next time you’re given an opportunity as such, try not to completely eff it up.
Yeah…you do that.
> Agree. 100%.
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> 343 has ruined the Halo franchise. Aside from the JOKE of a campaign (I mean really, that was a weak, weak effort) the balance and lag issues in H4 are horrible.
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> <mark>Thanks for nothing 343, back to Halo Reach I go.</mark> Next time you’re given an opportunity as such, try not to completely eff it up.
Lol. I bet you were one of the people before Halo 4 released claiming Halo: Reach sucks and now you want to go back…
I wouldn’t say worst developer EVER, but they have done some stupid things that could’ve been easily avoided.
Well there not exactly great with there reactions to community concerns there not the worst and when you said they removed prescision forging what exactly did you mean because it seems to be as prescise as it was in Reach which is the most prescise so far with its height yaw depth length etc. Wasn’t my favorite kind of forge since I learned on Halo 3 and just being able to merge back then showed how skilled you were.
Ok so let me get this straight. Some of you hate Halo 4 and 343i which is your opinion you are entitled to that as is everyone. Yet you are here? Why? If you hate both of them why the hell are you here?
If I may take a more uncivilized tone for a moment, let me just say:
Honestly. Who cares? If you like Reach (as did I), go back. Play that. I will not miss you. Neither will thousands upon thousands of other Halo 4 players. It’s a game.
If you dislike 343 and H4 so much, why come to the Halo 4 forum? Go over the the Reach forum and spend your time with people who have made the same decision you have. Complaining on this forum won’t change a dern thing.
Leave the Halo 4 forum to us who like the game, and will continue to play it. Please. And thank you.
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You guys seriously have to stop. I have never encountered a more rude group of people on an internet gaming forum in my life (yes you guys are giving Blizzard a run for it’s money).
It’s sad. It’s pathetic. It screams of nothing but selfishness and lack of education. Frankly, some of you should be ashamed…but you likely don’t understand that concept.
> OK, um, a couple things here.
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> 2. The core Halo mechanics are still there, and class customization is nearly the same as it was in Reach (with the exception of un removable sprint.)
2.Really? I don’t remember being able to choose my primary and secondary weapon I also don’t remember perks…
yeah core mechanics are still there… LOL
my god…
343 did a good job taking on a massive entity such as halo in multilayer, graphics and campaign
If they didn’t change it much everyone would get bored and call them lazy developers
They still have some of the bungie team in 343
post like this is not good for the community in anyway
adapt and enjoy the new game and be happy knowing 343 has more content and patches planned for the future
if 343i were the worst game dev, nobody would know who they are. op, you’re nothing but a whiny kid who deserves a b*tch slap because you’re ignorant and impatient. this goes out to the rest who agrees with op.
let 343i experiment with all of their gametype ideas and see what works and what doesn’t work. i like game dev who like to take risks. at least they have the guts to try new things; while you sit on your -Yoink!- thinking that you could do better. let’s see you walk the walk then? be my guess, go make a game of your own because it’s so simple.
i don’t understand how you guys come on here complaining. haven’t you guys learn anything? be patient and the game will be fixed sooner or later. so you don’t like the game huh? oh no!!! go cry me a river and drown in it.
if i worked for 343i and you called us the worst game dev, i would’ve ban you from playing ALL of our future games. not that it’s possible, but if i could, i would’ve.
kids these days…
> Ok so let me get this straight. Some of you hate Halo 4 and 343i which is your opinion you are entitled to that as is everyone. Yet you are here? Why? If you hate both of them why the hell are you here?
Because Halo is here. This is the Developer that’s going to make the next gen Halo game. Everyone here fell in love with some Halo game and they all want their game remade to the rules they grew up with when playing it. Frustration has settled in and it’s being vented here. Don’t get me wrong I consider the Halo 4 supporters the next generation that will have a percentage lambasting Halo 5 as vehemently as the most anger filled Halo 3 player ever could Reach.