343 will pay the price for a poor Halo 5 launch.

Bungie made each of the original Halo games only 3 years apart, same as 343. The launches weren’t always perfect, but still very successful. Halo 3 launch, you had - A solid campaign, ranked and social split and many playlists to suit different types of players, and plenty of custom game options with forge also. As well as a brand new theater mode. There were so many goodies to try out, and they had just as much, or as little, time as 343 have had.

The reasons why Halo 5 population was bound to start increasingly dropping after that launch -

1. No ranked and social split.

I’m sorry, but the same amount of casual players will not stick around if they are put up against competitive players and try hards.

This game is very fun for people who love a challenge and like the competitive side of halo, but it’s not fun for people who just want to kick back and relax. Sure, I know there’s Warzone, but that’s really not enough for a lot of Halo casuals who have been here for years.

And also the fact that BTB is ranked is not going to go down well either. It should have been social.

There NEEDS to be a ranked and social split in Halo!!!

2. Poor ranking system + Matchmaking

The matchmaking is very quick, but I guess the price we pay is players who are miles apart in experience and skill being matched up with each other. It seems you need to make it all the way to Onyx before you are split apart from the rest of the players.

But you cannot seriously expect Diamond players vs Unranked or casual players to make a good game.

We need the original style Halo ranks. 1-50. This ranking system wasn’t perfect, but your rank was far more rewarding, and you didn’t get such a huge split between ranks very often.

You’d be like a 25, and you might get matched against 22’s or 28’s, but that’s about it, and to make it anywhere near the higher ranks, you needed to be good. There was no question. Diamond is the second highest rank, yet I’ve seen very average players achieve this rank. In Halo, getting to rank 35 was seen as a fantastic achievement, it was literally that difficult.

And I never heard of a legit rank 50.

3. Restrictions with custom games, and no forge at launch.

Sorry but Forge should have been available at launch. Forge was a completely new concept to Halo when Bungie brought out Halo 3, yet they managed to get it done and dusted inside of those 3 years they had. 343 have failed to do that, despite Forge not being new to Halo.

Also, custom game options are again poor. Casuals will miss their fun custom game experiences. There’s too many playlists that we all love gone from the game, and infection game types on forged maps were very popular.

I know you might say “it’s coming in december”, but is that good enough? Well, for me, I can wait, but many casuals do not stick around to find out. They either get a really fun game, or they move on to something else, and they’ve probably move to Black Ops or Star Wars Battlefront, two games that offer a more laid back experience.

Don’t know what to say I love it and everything you’ve stated has been posted hundreds of times already :slight_smile:

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> Don’t know what to say I love it and everything you’ve stated has been posted hundreds of times already :slight_smile:

Then say nothing. Hard I know.

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> Don’t know what to say I love it and everything you’ve stated has been posted hundreds of times already :slight_smile:

I’ve also gave my reasoning and an explanation behind it though.

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> Don’t know what to say I love it and everything you’ve stated has been posted hundreds of times already :slight_smile:

Then play the game you love, and the rest should work out fine.

Halo 5 could add casual playlist and forge but that’s really it

didn’t read
stupid thread#)

No ranked and social split. Arena is ranked, Warzone is Social

Your point on matchmaking is correct

Forge: have you seen the new possibilities? At first no forge at launch was a major issue for me, but after seeing what’s possible, I’m okay with them taking extra time to roll it out.

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> didn’t read
> stupid thread#)

Smart thread with data to back it up more like it… get your head out of your -Yoink-.

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> No ranked and social split. Arena is ranked, Warzone is Social
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> Your point on matchmaking is correct
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> Forge: have you seen the new possibilities? At first no forge at launch was a major issue for me, but after seeing what’s possible, I’m okay with them taking extra time to roll it out.

Yeah, but as I said in the thread, Warzone on it’s own isn’t enough for the casual gamer. Casuals want to play social arena playlists.

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> > Forge: have you seen the new possibilities? At first no forge at launch was a major issue for me, but after seeing what’s possible, I’m okay with them taking extra time to roll it out.
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> Yeah, but as I said in the thread, Warzone on it’s own isn’t enough for the casual gamer. Casuals want to play social arena playlists.

You got that right. I don’t want to go tryhard every game, so I’ve basically dropped H5 all together. It’s just not fun anymore.

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> > Yeah, but as I said in the thread, Warzone on it’s own isn’t enough for the casual gamer. Casuals want to play social arena playlists.
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> You got that right. I don’t want to go tryhard every game, so I’ve basically dropped H5 all together. It’s just not fun anymore.

It was a pretty big mistake to leave out social. I am super competitive and want times when i dont want to go all out. Big mistake!

There’s also the complete lack of a co-op/soloable PvE mode outside of campaign. The last 3 Halos (ODST, Reach, and 4) all had one.

Oh, and no split-screen or LAN capabilities. You HAVE to have a Gold subscription to do anything more than campaign.

But 343i is clearly trying SO hard. You can’t expect to get everything you want when the game just came out.

…no, seriously. This game is disgustingly lacking in content. Campaign scoring is missing, as well as a load of multiplayer modes.

The problem is they already made a profit out of Halo 5. When that happens, they won’t change anything because they know that they can launch a game like this and get away with it. If people want a higher quality game, you have to go and either complain more to bring attention to the problems, or stop pre-ordering because by pre-ordering, 343 basically already earned a profit before the game even came out meaning that now, they don’t care about making a high quality game because they turned a buck on it and improving the game would cost more money which is something that they don’t want to spend.

We won’t be getting paid dlc, which makes up for it

Cant make everyone happy. These are definitely serious concerns many players have, this however does not mean it had a weak launch. The servers stayed strong, the maps were decent (besides orion, dear god that map should just burn) and its competitive gameplay was solid. The lack of a social playlist is a huge negative though I see what 343 was trying to do. Halo was launched pretty early in the cycle and if every bit of content was there at launch, players would have gotten bored and moved on to battlefront, or COD. Now they have a way to attract players back in winter, once forge and social playlists are released. They wanted to find a way to draw players back after their competitions releases. Now Im not saying what they did was the right thing to do, however, since all content will be free I have no problem with the decision. If they made forge paid dlc than I would be pissed.

i think the no forge at launch is a good thing. think about it would you rather have a broken not tested forge or a tested forge with few or no glitches to it? plus with forge comes more gamemodes. i have also heard that forge comes out in December so there is a free gift from Santa for you :slight_smile:

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> i think the no forge at launch is a good thing. think about it would you rather have a broken not tested forge or a tested forge with few or no glitches to it? plus with forge comes more gamemodes. i have also heard that forge comes out in December so there is a free gift from Santa for you :slight_smile:

A “free” gift that was included in my last three (Halo 3, Halo: Reach, and Halo 4) purchases of Halo games at the time of launch.

So, this time 343i gave me less for more so they could later say “see? We give you free stuff!”

Lets make a list of problems that each Halo game suffered at launch, then lets compare them to how they are over a year later. Halo 5 can only improve.