This isn’t one of the usual omg I hate 343, omg they killed halo, omg true skill ranks etc… I just wanted to know if there was a genuine reason why they have a fully fledged ranking system but keep it invisible? I saw BS Angel and like and couple of administrators in this forum section a few days ago and I wondered why they don’t always respond to threads like mine, where I’m just a guy asking a halo related question but nobody with any real knowledge on the matter answers me 
anyway I’m not hatin I’m just wondering, why isn’t the CSR visible?
I got no solid answer and none’s been given yet far as I know, I can only assume though it’s cos it would alienate the casuals and promote boosters. I could take or leave visible CSR. It pushed me on in halo 3, kept me gaming, but did depress me a bit when I couldn’t push it further.
> I got no solid answer and none’s been given yet far as I know, I can only assume though it’s cos it would alienate the casuals and promote boosters. I could take or leave visible CSR. It pushed me on in halo 3, kept me gaming, but did <mark>depress me a bit when I couldn’t push it further</mark>.
I know what you mean, but that makes it all the more reason to get better. That’s when you look up tips and strategies, watch gameplay and attempt to become a better player.
My original highest was 23. 4 months ago I pushed that to a 45 in lone wolves. I know I could be a 50 if I could still find games.
It just takes that extra bit of oomph
either
-they can’t/too late.
-subtly appealing to casuals.
I see everyones point and yes it would be nice to beable to see everyones rank but im gussing its to cut down on trash talking. Yeah its apart of online gaming but it does get out hand and alot of gamers go to far with racist and degrading insults. I do remember in Halo 2 and 3 countless gamers who would screa and shout like that
> I see everyones point and yes it would be nice to beable to see everyones rank but im gussing its to cut down on trash talking. Yeah its apart of online gaming but it does get out hand and alot of gamers go to far with racist and degrading insults. I do remember in Halo 2 and 3 countless gamers who would screa and shout like that
What it did is cut out talking in general. I hardly ever hear anyone use their mics anymore. Its sad really
I would not be surprised to find out that Microsoft is making 343 use Waypoint as much as possible to try and get people to actually use it.
I don’t think I have talked to ANYONE who uses Waypoint on a regular basis, if at all. I know the last time I used it was November to unlock the Raider armor stuff…which I don’t even use anymore.
MS wanted Waypoint to be THE place to go for everything Halo, but I don’t think they have seen the attachment rates they would like. Same goes for Smartglass. They spent time developing the app so you could control the Xbox with a tablet (shameless hack job of the Wii U’s functionality) and I doubt they have the numbers there either.
Of course, we won’t ever hear anything to that extent because 343 is 100% owned by MS and probably will never admit to something like that. Just like the whole Crimson Map debacle. Everyone knows it was a mistake and not a part of some 14 day promotion because we were told about the promotion ex post facto.
That’s where my money is though…MS wanting to control things. Same reason why the game wasn’t delayed to include a beta or hash out more things.
I guess you guys don’t read the bulletins… they just explained when the CSR will be put in the game and how it will work.
> I guess you guys don’t read the bulletins… they just explained when the CSR will be put in the game and how it will work.
Actually, I think you are the one who didn’t read it.
> We have been working closely with several internal teams on optimizing the ranking system, and working to integrate it into your Waypoint player profile, <mark>accessible on web, phone and tablet</mark>.
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> More Details:
> • You will have a unique CSR visible per playlist.
> • Your highest CSR across all playlists will be promoted in the <mark>player profile on Halo Waypoint.</mark>
> • CSR uses familiar 1-50 scale.
> • When CSR launches, everyone will start with a fresh rating.
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> Our targeted launch date for CSR is April 2013, and we will be re-configuring some of our most competitive playlists to accommodate the launch of the feature.
It is visible only on Waypoint, as evidenced by the highlighted sections. It will not be visible in game, which is fine with me personally.
Why is everyone so upset about it? We all knew prior to launch it wouldnt be in game. Shoot! they didnt even want to put it in the game until everyone started to riot that day. Your peers talked it out with 343i and stated it would be fine as long as it was there. Now thats not good enough? Contrary to popular belief, this isnt going to bring back that many players. That is fact, nothing more.
> I guess you guys don’t read the bulletins… they just explained when the CSR will be put in the game and how it will work.
Wow, what did you read…
They said they will aim for April which means it probably won’t be ready by then. It’s not going to be what we want regardless.
There was little to no explanation about it.
No news of file share, no news of weapon balance… again.
And they talked Dominion like a lot of us were asking about it. Pretty sure no one has and never will care about that game type.
I hope like a CSR system just because you can reach SR 130 in no time. But at the same time, if it was based on winning games, it almost wouldn’t be a good idea just because of the JiP…
343i explained why the CSR would be on Waypoint a long time ago…
They said at first it’ll be on Waypoint as a test. To see if there are any bugs/exploits that players might do to reach 50; or demote themselves to boost others.
After everything is fully functional… I’m assuming it’ll end up in-game.
> I hope like a CSR system just because you can reach SR 130 in no time. But at the same time, if it was based on winning games, it almost wouldn’t be a good idea just because of the JiP…
agreed, JIP should be removed or players should have the ability to disable it.
> 343i explained why the CSR would be on Waypoint a long time ago…
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> They said at first it’ll be on Waypoint as a test. To see if there are any bugs/exploits that players might do to reach 50; or demote themselves to boost others.
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> After everything is fully functional… I’m assuming it’ll end up in-game.
They are certainly wasting a lot of time with the so called “CSR”. It’s ridiculous that they didn’t ship the game with a ranking system, and then do the necessary patches if necessary. Halo 2/3 shipped with ranking systems, and they seemed to do pretty well.
> > 343i explained why the CSR would be on Waypoint a long time ago…
> >
> > They said at first it’ll be on Waypoint as a test. To see if there are any bugs/exploits that players might do to reach 50; or demote themselves to boost others.
> >
> > After everything is fully functional… I’m assuming it’ll end up in-game.
>
> They are certainly wasting a lot of time with the so called “CSR”. It’s ridiculous that they didn’t ship the game with a ranking system, and then do the necessary patches if necessary. Halo 2/3 shipped with ranking systems, and they seemed to do pretty well.
Thats the thing, Frankie didnt want it in the game. Only because there was such an uproar was it even considered.
> 343i explained why the CSR would be on Waypoint a long time ago…
>
> They said at first it’ll be on Waypoint as a test. To see if there are any bugs/exploits that players might do to reach 50; or demote themselves to boost others.
>
> After everything is fully functional… I’m assuming it’ll end up in-game.
It wont
Simply put, the UI in game cant simply add in ranks.
You mean the same CSR system like in Halo 3 where, in doubles at higher levels, the other team would get a slight lead then one of them leaves and the remaining player hides and lags for the win? That was fun…
> > I see everyones point and yes it would be nice to beable to see everyones rank but im gussing its to cut down on trash talking. Yeah its apart of online gaming but it does get out hand and alot of gamers go to far with racist and degrading insults. I do remember in Halo 2 and 3 countless gamers who would screa and shout like that
>
> What it did is cut out talking in general. I hardly ever hear anyone use their mics anymore. Its sad really
Yeah thats the flip side of it. Im hopping that when it comes out the talking will jump up
> > 343i explained why the CSR would be on Waypoint a long time ago…
> >
> > They said at first it’ll be on Waypoint as a test. To see if there are any bugs/exploits that players might do to reach 50; or demote themselves to boost others.
> >
> > After everything is fully functional… I’m assuming it’ll end up in-game.
>
> It wont
>
> Simply put, the UI in game cant simply add in ranks.
Could you perhaps explain this to everyone about the “User Interface”? I know certain things have to be hard coded into the game in order for their appearance to be present in game, but I do not think everyone understands why ranks can never actually be implemented.