> Looking at the DMR, we currently feel that the kill time should remain unchanged, as the weapon has become a clear favorite amongst the community due to its reliability and consistency. So tuning the Battle Rifle, LightRifle and Carbine against this weapon presented quite a challenge. Here are the tweaks that have currently been made, and the challenges associated with each.
They must be joking. The DMR is as strong as a sniper rifle and they say it is fine. Jesus H Christ. The weapon is not fine. The other weapons don’t even need tuning. The only thing that makes them seem up is the OP DMR. Clear favorite among community because IT IS -Yoinking!- OP. 343 if you don’t change the DMR you will fail hard with this tuning.
Due to people complaining about Sniper rifle comparison it has been modified
> > Looking at the DMR, we currently feel that the kill time should remain unchanged, as the weapon has become a clear favorite amongst the community due to its reliability and consistency. So tuning the Battle Rifle, LightRifle and Carbine against this weapon presented quite a challenge. Here are the tweaks that have currently been made, and the challenges associated with each.
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> They must be joking. The DMR is stronger than a sniper rifle and they say it is fine. Jesus H Christ. The weapon is not fine. The other weapons don’t even need tuning. The only thing that makes them seem up is the OP DMR. Clear favorite among community because IT IS -Yoinking!- OP.
> 343 if you don’t change the DMR you will fail hard with this tuning.
The changes are NOT final and 343i have stated themselves they are far from being final. These are just ideas and they are probably throwing them out there to judge our reaction.
> > Looking at the DMR, we currently feel that the kill time should remain unchanged, as the weapon has become a clear favorite amongst the community due to its reliability and consistency. So tuning the Battle Rifle, LightRifle and Carbine against this weapon presented quite a challenge. Here are the tweaks that have currently been made, and the challenges associated with each.
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> They must be joking. <mark>The DMR is stronger than a sniper rifle</mark> and they say it is fine. Jesus H Christ. The weapon is not fine. The other weapons don’t even need tuning. The only thing that makes them seem up is the OP DMR. Clear favorite among community because IT IS -Yoinking!- OP.
> 343 if you don’t change the DMR you will fail hard with this tuning.
Really? I didnt know the DMR could kill with 1 shot to the head when you are fully shielded or 2 body shots… please dont over exaggerate things.
At least they are trying to let the other weapons compete, i think a 4 shot BR can easily kill a DMR user in mid/close combat as it is intended to do.
> > Looking at the DMR, we currently feel that the kill time should remain unchanged, as the weapon has become a clear favorite amongst the community due to its reliability and consistency. So tuning the Battle Rifle, LightRifle and Carbine against this weapon presented quite a challenge. Here are the tweaks that have currently been made, and the challenges associated with each.
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> They must be joking. The DMR is stronger than a sniper rifle and they say it is fine. Jesus H Christ. The weapon is not fine. The other weapons don’t even need tuning. The only thing that makes them seem up is the OP DMR. Clear favorite among community because IT IS -Yoinking!- OP.
> 343 if you don’t change the DMR you will fail hard with this tuning.
LMFAO!
343i have done the right…better thing…the 4sk BR will be more than a match for the DMR on small 4v4 maps and perform better at mid sized maps now.
The LR having its RRR increased to make it the same as the DMR and, the fact it is 4sk, makes it a better weapon than the DMR!
When a starting weapon has the same range of a normal sniper rifle, a higher rate of fire, a lot of ammo, and auto aim out the -Yoink- that is as strong as if not stronger than a sniper. Spawning with a DMR is like giving a mini sniper at start.
> When a starting weapon has the same range of a normal sniper rifle, a higher rate of fire, a lot of ammo, and auto aim out the -Yoink!- that is as strong as if not stronger than a sniper. Spawning with a DMR is like giving a mini sniper at start.
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The DMR takes 5 times as many shots as the Sniper to kill, only has 3.5 times as much ammo, does not have anywhere near the scope magnification, and is affected by bloom.
> The DMR takes 5 times as many shots as the Sniper to kill, only has 3.5 times as much ammo, does not have anywhere near the scope magnification, and is affected by bloom.
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I am not talking about numbers I am talking about its combination of range, damage, auto aim, and, rate of fire. This is not a literal comparison.
> > The DMR takes 5 times as many shots as the Sniper to kill, only has 3.5 times as much ammo, does not have anywhere near the scope magnification, and is affected by bloom.
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I am making it a literal comparison because the DMR is nowhere near as powerful as the Sniper, and that is the entire point. The weapon is not on the Sniper’s level, it is just able to fill a similar role.
That’s like saying Grenades are just mini-Rockets because they explode. Or that the Suppressor is just a mini-SAW because it fires fast.
So, you didn’t bother to read the part where if the DMR gets any closer, the other weapons would out damage it due to their faster rate of fire, damage buff, or both?
They’re not final. If you want to talk about it and let them know, go to the link that’s in the bulletin, and post in that thread. They’re not looking for that feedback here.
> > Halo 4 is more than the BR and DMR. Compare the DMR to every other weapon in the game.
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The list of weapons that beat the DMR provided every shot is landed:
Light Rifle(Scoped)
Light Rifle(Single shot scoped, rest unscoped)
Assault Rifle
Suppressor
Storm Rifle
Magnum
Boltshot(Charged shot)
Railgun
Sniper Rifle
Beam Rifle
Binary Rifle
Incineration Cannon
Scattershot
Shotgun
Gravity Hammer
Energy Sword
Rocket Launcher
Fuel Rod Cannon
Concussion Rifle
Sticky Detonator
SAW
Weapons that do not beat the DMR, regardless of every shot hitting:
Battle Rifle
Carbine
Plasma Pistol
Light Rifle (Pure unscoped)
Boltshot(Single fire)
Spartan Laser
Forgive me if I have missed any of the weapons in Halo 4, but yeah. The DMR totally beats everything.
> > They must be joking. The DMR is stronger than a sniper rifle and they say it is fine.
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I personally think the tweaks they are making sound great. The battle rifle will be the close to mid range beast and the DMR will dominate the long range as it was intended. The tweaks to the carbine are also very welcome. Finally it can compete with the other rifles. The LR buff to reticule range is also great except I hope its not overpowered.
Giving the assault rifle a damage buff makes me a little nervous too but I hope the decrease to aim assist will round it out.
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Did you really just say that? Ok bro, 1v1. You get DMR, I get Incineration Cannon.
