343 vs Bungie's scripting/dialogue

I had a chance to play through the campaigns of Halo 5 (a dreaded second time) and Halo Reach (probably my 23rd run lost count) and moreso than ever, Bungie’s masterful scripting left me in awe.

Because the general Halo player knew how Reach would end, the writers managed to give the game an edgy and dark theme it couldn’t quite capture before. We knew we were fighting a losing battle, and we knew we were going to lose. Dialogue felt profoundly deep and metaphorical; just as an example

In the first cutscene, Kat holds her mechanical arm in front of the player directing the rest of the squad’s attention to us. Later revealing that she only read the files “that weren’t covered in black ink”. Although I never understood what she meant by that my first few playthroughs, that one line spoke volumes of Noble Six’s vast experience on the battlefield, so much so nobody in Noble team even questioned it. This is true of most of the dialogue found throughout the game. It almost felt a bit more mature in the sense that Noble team’s speech was directed to Noble team, not the one behind the controller; for this reason it was difficult at times to pick up on certain cues but that made it all the more engaging. That paired with the gritty atmosphere masterfully captured the game not only made this an immersive experience, but an emotional one.

Now we go to Halo 4 and Halo 5. I have to say, I have never been so disappointed in the dialogue of a game. I found myself cringing most of the game because of the cheesy dialogue. Throughout Reach, the adjective “Spartan” was used very subtly but each time it left impact. It had more meaning than being an augmented soldier, it represented being a hero and humanity’s last hope; almost as if a wake up call to get their head back in the game. 343 have effectively nullified this by throwing in “Spartan” to nearly every sentence throughout Halo 4 & 5, giving it no meaning and even making it sound annoying in a horrid attempt to be badass. Now that was only one word. The writers attempt to make light-hearted, witty dialogue that often times fails even worse. Words are used in place of subtle emotional expression, something that Spartans were key for. It almost makes the new breed of Spartan IV’s seem more childish.

I hope 343 fire whoever has been scripting/writing the story thus far because honestly, a grade schooler could do as good if not better of a job.

Get the guy that wrote fall of reach to write dialogue for campaigns. I also want a game based on the book fall of reach and first strike. Make games that follow the books very closely

One thing I certainly do agree with is how in Bungie’s Halo, the term Spartan really meant something. It was a symbol of hope against all odds. In Halo 4-5, We can just turn normal soldiers into the Avenge- excuse me, Spartans. Hopefully Halo 6 will return to Halo’s classic humanity vs all odds theme (it looks like it will.) Hopefully we get a better dialogue writer too. The current one has a few good quips (I figure if God can hear how scared I am so can everyone else.), but need something serious, gritty.

completely agree I had the same thought about the “spartan” thing a couple weeks back, it is seriously everywhere you look in halo 5

Searching for Spartans, Spartan ID, Spartan companies, Palmer says it like every 5 seconds in warzone, I was tired of hearing it after day 1 with the game

as for the campaign dialogue, it just feels like every second sentence is missing or something, that is not the way people talk to each other, I can’t think of a games cutscenes that have made me cringe as hard as halo 5’s

One word: Chips Dubbo

I’m sorry, but every Halo has been full of corny and hammy dialogue. Halo 4 was one of the better ones. Halo 5 does a decent job with in-game dialogue but falls flat on its face in the cutscenes. I actually think Reach is the worst of the actual campaigns, as its dialogue is on the same level as all the rest, yet it tries to portray itself as dark, gritty and brooding, which makes the dialogue even more out of place. Spartan Ops is the worst in general though.

I agree completely. Reach had the best writing. 4 was decent but yeah 343 does throw the word spartan around like it means nothing.