343 using mcc to hold us over?

I been thinking with how much love and support mcc been getting lately I wonder if 343 is doing that to hold us over till infinite releases it probably is the case and also maybe to debate what type of gameplay we may get? unless they are further along in development than we think

I wrote something similar in another thread, I believe the MCC is getting attention because Halo Infinite is a long way off, I personally do not believe we’ll see Halo Infinite before late 2020 at the earliest. I could be wrong, and I hope I am. If the rumours are true, and we’re getting a separate campaign and multiplayer, then a fall 2019 campaign might be possible imo, but that would depend on what the release schedule is for fall 2019, Gears 5 could be dropping around that time too.

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> If the rumours are true, and we’re getting a separate campaign and multiplayer

Wait, what? Since when is that a rumor?

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> Wait, what? Since when is that a rumor?

Here’s one article there are others if you search, it is only a rumour though,

Click me please.

I just hope its not an indirect vote on gameplay given MCC was recycled games that were launched more broken than decade old copies while also being older than H5g. Not to even mention its still broken after all these years. I certainly hope that they will handle Infinite better, much better.

I just hope attention on MCC is just that 343i is showing that they care about their products and attempt to fix them. Better late than never i guess. I just hope fixing a game would happen before release after some thorough developer testing. Early gamers should not be the free testers. Though i guess its the price of blindly throwing money before they even have any facts about the real product and not just demos and trailers that are meant to hype the consumers.

It makes sense. If MCC wasnt a mess, we could probably be playing the beta right now.

Unless a seperate team worked on the MCC fix, then that that point is irrelevant.

Nevertheless, the lack of news is frustrating lol, not sure waiting 2 more years for a game is smart.

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> > > If the rumours are true, and we’re getting a separate campaign and multiplayer
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> > Wait, what? Since when is that a rumor?
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> Here’s one article there are others if you search, it is only a rumour though,
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> Click me please.

This has already been confirmed to <mark>not</mark> be happening. Halo Infinite’s Campaign and Multiplayer will ship at the same time, they won’t be split

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> > > Wait, what? Since when is that a rumor?
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> > Here’s one article there are others if you search, it is only a rumour though,
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> > Click me please.
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> This has already been confirmed to not be happening. Halo Infinite’s Campaign and Multiplayer will ship at the same time, they won’t be spli

oh really?

I think it has more to do with “Game Pass” than filling up holes honestly. When it released 343i had their hands full with H5G and couldn’t provide for further MCC support. Not to mention, four years down the line nobody would have cared for this pseudo re-release. But with the new Netflix like service MS and 343i had all interests in the world to resolve the biggest problem of the collection! Also GoW5 in 2019 is already here to keep Xbox shooter fans happy.

Edit: Gears5, sorry about that. MS marketing team killed the “of war” part of the title. Hopefully they didn’t cut the gore too. GoW4 was a bit too tame for my personal taste! :upside_down_face:

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> > Here’s one article there are others if you search, it is only a rumour though,
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> This has already been confirmed to not be happening. Halo Infinite’s Campaign and Multiplayer will ship at the same time, they won’t be spli

Thats true, not much to add to it but why did the sentence stop mid word?

“Hello! … Sniper…3rd floor to the left.”

Well 343 is ending H5 eSports and going with MCC instead so I’d say that’s correct.

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> Thats true, not much to add to it but why did the sentence stop mid word?
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> “Hello! … Sniper…3rd floor to the left.”

Let me give him my “Welcome to Waypoint” gift basket.

Halo MCC has been really fun here lately, so whatever there reason is to keep updating it with new stuff, I hope they continue. And I personally think Infinite will come out fall 2019, well at least I hope it does lol!

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> And I personally think Infinite will come out fall 2019, well at least I hope it does lol!

It’s way too early in development to be possible in even mid 2020. 343 has been developing the Slipspace engine all this time and developing an engine takes a long time. Bungie was going to use another engine for later games, starting with Halo 2. But because it took too much time and Microsoft wanted Halo 2 released as soon as possible, it was scrapped and Bungie instead heavily modified the BLAM! engine from the previous game to fit their new entry. It’s always been like that up until Halo 5. Halo Infinite is the first title to use a complete new engine.

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> > And I personally think Infinite will come out fall 2019, well at least I hope it does lol!
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> It’s way too early in development to be possible in even mid 2020. 343 has been developing the Slipspace engine all this time and developing an engine takes a long time. Bungie was going to use another engine for later games, starting with Halo 2. But because it took too much time and Microsoft wanted Halo 2 released as soon as possible, it was scrapped and Bungie instead heavily modified the BLAM! engine from the previous game to fit their new entry. It’s always been like that up until Halo 5. Halo Infinite is the first title to use a complete new engine.

To early? It’ll be 5 years of development (if they go till 2020) which is more than enough as other games have shown. The engine isn’t an excuse when Bioware got dragon age Inquisition out in 3 years after dragon age 2. Inquisition transitioned into an entirely new engine that they had to redesign and make the tools for an RPG as the FB3 engine was only ever used for Battlefield. That’s just one example. Gears of war judgement only took 2 years to be made with a transition from the UR3 to the UR4.

The only way I’ll see a engine change being an excuse is if infinite ends up with a lot of feature changes. Even then I’ll still question it when other companies can produce faster whole going through the same thing as 343.

@OP: I don’t see the mcc getting attention as being a hold over for the fans. It’s to late for it to regain much for players which it’s lacking player counts have shown with so many dead playlists. Furthermore they said infinite would be built off H5, so if any game was meant to be the hold over, it’d be that game as it fits their statement on what Infinite will be more than a collection of completely different games.

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> To early? It’ll be 5 years of development (if they go till 2020) which is more than enough as other games have shown. The engine isn’t an excuse when Bioware got dragon age Inquisition out in 3 years after dragon age 2. Inquisition transitioned into an entirely new engine that they had to redesign and make the tools for an RPG as the FB3 engine was only ever used for Battlefield. That’s just one example. Gears of war judgement only took 2 years to be made with a transition from the UR3 to the UR4.
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> The only way I’ll see a engine change being an excuse is if infinite ends up with a lot of feature changes. Even then I’ll still question it when other companies can produce faster whole going through the same thing as 343.
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> @OP: I don’t see the mcc getting attention as being a hold over for the fans. It’s to late for it to regain much for players which it’s lacking player counts have shown with so many dead playlists. Furthermore they said infinite would be built off H5, so if any game was meant to be the hold over, it’d be that game as it fits their statement on what Infinite will be more than a collection of completely different games.

good point then again there is hate for the advanced/modern movement

Seems that way, which is fine by me. I personally will probably play mostly BO4 until Infinite but it’s nice knowing I can actually comfortably play MCC when I want to.

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> To early? It’ll be 5 years of development (if they go till 2020) which is more than enough as other games have shown. The engine isn’t an excuse when Bioware got dragon age Inquisition out in 3 years after dragon age 2. Inquisition transitioned into an entirely new engine that they had to redesign and make the tools for an RPG as the FB3 engine was only ever used for Battlefield. That’s just one example. Gears of war judgement only took 2 years to be made with a transition from the UR3 to the UR4.
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> The only way I’ll see a engine change being an excuse is if infinite ends up with a lot of feature changes. Even then I’ll still question it when other companies can produce faster whole going through the same thing as 343.
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> @OP: I don’t see the mcc getting attention as being a hold over for the fans. It’s to late for it to regain much for players which it’s lacking player counts have shown with so many dead playlists. Furthermore they said infinite would be built off H5, so if any game was meant to be the hold over, it’d be that game as it fits their statement on what Infinite will be more than a collection of completely different games.

As far as I’m aware, 343 started development of the engine right after Halo 5. Give it the H2 treatment and we could probably be some 5 weeks away from it’s release STILL in the BLAM! engine.
I find your Gears example flawed. If Epic Games started the development of the UR4 sometime around 2003, it would be complete or nearly complete by the time Gears Judgement had started development. Then, it’s just porting assets and done.

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> Well 343 is ending H5 eSports and going with MCC instead so I’d say that’s correct.

Did they state that in the recent news update? I saw it but mostly skimmed through it.

Ah just re read it. Interesting. I think competitive MCC would be more interesting anyways. Especially H3.

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> oh really?

It’s in the FAQ pinned at the top of the forums. That itself came from the r/halo discord, you can probably track the original quote from there

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> why did the sentence stop mid word?

I missed a t a the end of the word