343 should try and slaughter Battle Royale

I could see it happening you could buy revives and power ups n such there are plenty of Halo Weapons from all games to toss around the map and instead of gas or fire storm or whatever make it the flood closing in on everyone if you get caught out there you get infected and have to infect other players that could be a tight spin

Thus would be a crazy -Yoink- game mode

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> This would be so boring, it would make me instantly yawn and wanna go to sleep.
> Innovating doesn’t mean copy/pasting stuff and slapping a different name it.
> That’s not innovative, it is lazy.

I’m saying innovate, you’re saying copy and paste. Two different things.

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> BR mode needs to stay away from Halo games. If people want it that badly then they should buy the Halo dlc for Fornite and then go play Fornite.

I mean you don’t have to play it. You also don’t have a right to complain when Halo doesn’t have any community, regardless of your opinion… more people play BR games. Personally enjoy BR, but would love to see 343’s take on that approach.

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> I would personally love the idea of drop podding down onto the ring from space (ODST first person style) and fragging everyone till i’m the last spartan/odst standing
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> But i would much rather them focus on core elements first before dropping a br into halo

This a super fire concept :joy:

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> > I am excited to see what we get in Halo. A BR game is only boring if you make it boring so I dont understand the instinctive naysaying. I am very interested to see what BTB 2.0 is all about.
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> I disagree that it’s instinctive naysaying - I think there are 6 things to consider:
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> - 343 have already said they’re not doing this [at the moment at least], but threads like this keep popping up - It’s not naysaying in terms of ‘Halo can’t do it well’ - despite the fact that I am not a BR fan in any way shape or form I do believe Halo could do an excellent BR - It’s about resources. Infinite is already a hugely complex project and 343 have made it clear that they’re focussed on making the game as good as it can be by getting the fundamentals right and building from there. A BR is entirely not part of that. - BRs can take over franchises - look at Titanfall a promising IP which we’ll likely never see another entry into at least for a while, I don’t hear anything about CoD anymore apart from Warzone - careful what you wish for because what starts as a sideproject can entirely take over your franchise. - BR market saturation - all existing Halo fans who want to play a BR have plenty of places to get that fix. Is a Halo BR actually going to add anything to the franchise there? - Player influx: even if you do succeed with a BR (which isn’t a guarantee) and it does well to the point of bringing new people into the Halo franchise: if they’re there for the BR are they going to stay for the other things which are Halo’s core DNA? If not… what was the point?

Fair points. To clarify however, I don’t actually think what you are expressing is at all the instinctive naysaying I am talking about, as if I understand you correctly you would be okay with a Halo BR being done at some point (perhaps in the next 10 years?). I agree that a BR can be done poorly and we shouldn’t want to see anything of poor quality added to this game or any other future game as well. I trust that 343 is handling its resources well atm by not pursuing a BR, and am more excited for BTB 2.0 which I suspect will likely be similar but we will honestly just have to wait and see. I am unaware that 343 has ruled out doing a BR at all however, I miss many things so if I am mistaken here feel free to correct me on that.

That being said it is your 4th point that I find to be most meritable for the reaction for why Infinite or 343 shouldn’t try to do BR themselves. On this point I do still disagree however, the example of COD is unfair because the population was dying and was really being carried by Zombies which was also starting to implode (again) so Warzone was a bit of a revitalization. If Halo balances it well and infinite is truly the catch all of communities and players then I don’t see why one section of the hub would necessarily have to dominate the others. I personally enjoy BR though so I may be biased

With point 5 I disagree that Halo can’t make a unique BR, it’s still a new genre with many ways to be tweaked and many atmospheres to be experimented with. The current popular style does not have to be the terminal mode, much like CE slayer is not the only game variant of FPS. This is what I meant by a BR is only boring if you make it boring. On point 6 I disagree out of principle that I feel this logic can apply towards any innovation and new game type introduced in the series. It could have been said of Firefight, of Warzone, of Headhunter, of spartan ops, of Invasion, breakout, etc. Some of these were more successful than others but we shouldnt be wary of them just becaue they are different and attract new players who play in a different style. What is Halo DNA anyways

Personally, I never really cared for the Battle Royal gametype but I can’t overlook the big fan demand it has. Just look out for the community because I can imagine alot of players will create their own versions to share with everyone else because I don’t think 343 is interested in doing it themselves.

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> > > I am excited to see what we get in Halo. A BR game is only boring if you make it boring so I dont understand the instinctive naysaying. I am very interested to see what BTB 2.0 is all about.
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> > I disagree that it’s instinctive naysaying - I think there are 6 things to consider:
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> > - 343 have already said they’re not doing this [at the moment at least], but threads like this keep popping up - It’s not naysaying in terms of ‘Halo can’t do it well’ - despite the fact that I am not a BR fan in any way shape or form I do believe Halo could do an excellent BR - It’s about resources. Infinite is already a hugely complex project and 343 have made it clear that they’re focussed on making the game as good as it can be by getting the fundamentals right and building from there. A BR is entirely not part of that. - BRs can take over franchises - look at Titanfall a promising IP which we’ll likely never see another entry into at least for a while, I don’t hear anything about CoD anymore apart from Warzone - careful what you wish for because what starts as a sideproject can entirely take over your franchise. - BR market saturation - all existing Halo fans who want to play a BR have plenty of places to get that fix. Is a Halo BR actually going to add anything to the franchise there? - Player influx: even if you do succeed with a BR (which isn’t a guarantee) and it does well to the point of bringing new people into the Halo franchise: if they’re there for the BR are they going to stay for the other things which are Halo’s core DNA? If not… what was the point?
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> Fair points. To clarify however, I don’t actually think what you are expressing is at all the instinctive naysaying I am talking about, as if I understand you correctly you would be okay with a Halo BR being done at some point (perhaps in the next 10 years?). I agree that a BR can be done poorly and we shouldn’t want to see anything of poor quality added to this game or any other future game as well. I trust that 343 is handling its resources well atm by not pursuing a BR, and am more excited for BTB 2.0 which I suspect will likely be similar but we will honestly just have to wait and see. I am unaware that 343 has ruled out doing a BR at all however, I miss many things so if I am mistaken here feel free to correct me on that.
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> That being said it is your 4th point that I find to be most meritable for the reaction for why Infinite or 343 shouldn’t try to do BR themselves. On this point I do still disagree however, the example of COD is unfair because the population was dying and was really being carried by Zombies which was also starting to implode (again) so Warzone was a bit of a revitalization. If Halo balances it well and infinite is truly the catch all of communities and players then I don’t see why one section of the hub would necessarily have to dominate the others. I personally enjoy BR though so I may be biased
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> With point 5 I disagree that Halo can’t make a unique BR, it’s still a new genre with many ways to be tweaked and many atmospheres to be experimented with. The current popular style does not have to be the terminal mode, much like CE slayer is not the only game variant of FPS. This is what I meant by a BR is only boring if you make it boring. On point 6 I disagree out of principle that I feel this logic can apply towards any innovation and new game type introduced in the series. It could have been said of Firefight, of Warzone, of Headhunter, of spartan ops, of Invasion, breakout, etc. Some of these were more successful than others but we shouldnt be wary of them just becaue they are different and attract new players who play in a different style. What is Halo DNA anyways

I think you’re misinterpreting my 5th point. I’m not saying Halo can’t at all, but what I am saying is: if you have let’s say 50% of a player’s interest and gametime and you introduce a new BR mode: is that mode increasing that share or further diluting what they’re playing within your game. When Warzone came out did people stop playing Apex Legends and Fortnite or just add Warzone in as well?

If all you’re doing is diluting your offering and playerbase further within your game that will.more quickly lead you to underpopulated playlists and a worse experience for everyone. In that scenario the only thing you’re gaining is if you’re making enough of your population happy enough with the new mode.

It comes down to is the effort of making one going to be worth it for the franchise. My fear is that no it isn’t as I can see 3 negative outcomes:

  • The Apex Legends - it’s wildly successful to the point that it sucks the air out of the room for anything else related - The Warzone: it’s very successful but most of its success is simply diluting your own playerbase and population rathet than truly cutting into others’ market share. Arena/BTB/Firefight become underpopulated wastelands very quickly and non-BR fans become resentful of that - The Battlefield: it doesn’t work due to lack of uniqueness, and rather than be seen positively by your own playerbase it actually harms how the franchise is viewed.There does exist a ‘golden path’ too but my fear is it’s an absolute moonshot to hit it.

My business comparison here is Xerox - they almost lost sight of their core market (copiers and printers) trying to chase the personal computing market (which Apple then beat them out of) and it nearly ended very badly for them indeed.

It just comes down to risk/reward and where the market opportunities lie. For me BR has very few opportunities right now, moonshot rewards and is full.of risks. On the other hand… I see Halo’s traditional ground as being full.of far more opportunities due to everyone else’s BR scramble.

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> > BR mode needs to stay away from Halo games. If people want it that badly then they should buy the Halo dlc for Fornite and then go play Fornite.
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> I mean you don’t have to play it. You also don’t have a right to complain when Halo doesn’t have any community, regardless of your opinion… more people play BR games. Personally enjoy BR, but would love to see 343’s take on that approach.

Just no and what you said is not ok. Everyone has a right to complain regardless of ‘your’ opinion on the BR and many people have valid reasons why they don’t want BR anywhere near Halo and it isn’t ok to generalise fans just because you don’t like the fact that people have valid reasons for not wanting BR near Halo. Like I said before if you want BR that desperately that try out Fornite with Halo dlc because 343i have already said no to this. Don’t force your bias onto others just because you can’t handle the fact that ‘many’ hate/like BR. If you can’t handle different opinions then that’s on you.

BR is a niche game type and has been done well by others, but it had never been a staple of Halo. They have already stated that they are not going to be adding it, so why try to jump on the bandwagon? I prefer they divert attention and focus on BTB 2.0, as that seems like a more intriguing game type.

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> > > BR mode needs to stay away from Halo games. If people want it that badly then they should buy the Halo dlc for Fornite and then go play Fornite.
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> > I mean you don’t have to play it. You also don’t have a right to complain when Halo doesn’t have any community, regardless of your opinion… more people play BR games. Personally enjoy BR, but would love to see 343’s take on that approach.
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> Just no and what you said is not ok. Everyone has a right to complain regardless of ‘your’ opinion on the BR and many people have valid reasons why they don’t want BR anywhere near Halo and it isn’t ok to generalise fans just because you don’t like the fact that people have valid reasons for not wanting BR near Halo. Like I said before if you want BR that desperately that try out Fornite with Halo dlc because 343i have already said no to this. Don’t force your bias onto others just because you can’t handle the fact that ‘many’ hate/like BR. If you can’t handle different opinions then that’s on you.

Think we all need to take a breath. BR as we can see is a very divisive issue. For now 343 have said they aren’t working on it therefore everything else is just speculation.

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> BR is a niche game type and has been done well by others, but it had never been a staple of Halo. They have already stated that they are not going to be adding it, so why try to jump on the bandwagon? I prefer they divert attention and focus on BTB 2.0, as that seems like a more intriguing game type.

Precisely this.

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How about this wait and see from a official announcement not this passive clickbait thread. :unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused:

I wouldn’t want a Halo BR, but if it’s done correctly, I might play it. So long as it isn’t another boring piece of -Yoink- lol

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> 343 are working on a “BTB 2.0” of sorts, which is touted to be a large scale experience, though they haven’t released any specific details on it yet.

This BTB 2.0, although to popular belief, hasn’t been confirmed by anyone. I would take any rumors you hear with a grain of salt.

The BR genre is already overpopulated, and crowded as is. Following the trend is not something 343i should do. Halo should set trends, not attempt to copy them. We saw what this did for Halo 4’s multiplayer. Large scale invasion type combat would be the way to go. However, since we don’t have playable elites, and given 343i’s absolute refusal to add them after a decade of being asked, it’s just going to be some derivation of Warzone, I imagine.

I’m hoping it’s ODST rather then Spartans and that we get to drop in via drop pods.

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> How about this wait and see from a official announcement not this passive clickbait thread. :unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused:

We’ve had several official announcements: it’s not being worked on, end of.

100 player BTB would be way better than br. Fact.

Halo BR wouldnt be all that bad if 343 embraced it and said “We are going to make the most awesome, innovative, kick -Yoink- Battle Royale ever!” and made it their focal point. But this would take almost all the resources they have to make it worth it. This would have drastic negative effects on thier legacy and fanbase but yes, they would have the dopest BR mode ever created. In other words, if youre not first, youre last. Dont just be a part if the crowd.

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> Halo BR wouldnt be all that bad if 343 embraced it and said “We are going to make the most awesome, innovative, kick -Yoink- Battle Royale ever!” and made it their focal point. But this would take almost all the resources they have to make it worth it. This would have drastic negative effects on thier legacy and fanbase but yes, they would have the dopest BR mode ever created. In other words, if youre not first, youre last. Dont just be a part if the crowd.

I agree. With the content of the Halo sand box we could have the best Battle Royale ever imo. As for resources ? That’s a non issue. 343i have the full backing of Microsoft with regard to Halo, if they need designers and devs they would get it if the project looked viable, even if it was an issue they could give it to another studio. I’m willing to bet a few studios would like a crack at a Halo Battle Royale.

I also keep reading about the Battle Royale market being overpopulated. It’s not anymore overpopulated than the FPS, 3rd person shooter, RPG, Racing game markets etc etc. Haters of Battle Royale use that narrative to easily dismiss what they dislike. It’s innovating on existing games and genres that improve the quality of the games we play. No one can know if a Halo Battle Royale will fly or bomb.

But… I have no doubt we’ll see one, or 343i’s, or another company’s version of one at some point.