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To make clear my OP in simple tearms…

I Don’t like the fact that Bungie is not making this game… Im not sold on 343i filling those shoes.
They are very big shoes to fill , and years of title and storyline are at stake.
I don’t like the fact that the “boss” said he was going to throw things out… he didn’t elaborate… but it was clear to me at least he was referring to the game itself , not so much the mechanics of the game.
I dont like how the multiplayer maps will not be a reflection of the campaign maps. I feel like, when games change to much at first , the transition is lost in translation… we the players , notice and have trouble adjusting and sometimes lose intrest in the new learning curve.

As far as I knew all the Spartans we killed , and master chief was the “known” last… Am I wrong? I dont know at this point because I am now being told different , yet by only one person.

I create , produce , and engineer in a recording studio in california… the forst rule of creating is to not get attached to your work… its not for you , its for the fans… It has to touch them. I was under the assumption that when making a fan based game… it was , not in literal terms… our game…
Just like bank of america is not literally the “bank of america” , i.e “americas bank”… I hope thats a little more easy to understand.

Thank you.

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343 was a company specifically created for Halo.
You have to throw some things out in order to get a new game experience… he obviously doesn’t mean very important things, more like details that could be refreshed to enhance gameplay.
Eh the maps not being from the campaign isn’t too bad to me… as long as the maps are good, I’m fine.

Also there were other Spartans. Plenty had been killed, but there were others… can’t remember exactly who, but a “Blue Team” comes to mind…

They are valid concerns… but we need to wait just a little more for some of them to be cleared up. Hopefully E3 will give us what we want.

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Bungie not being part of Halo anymore is sad but 343i is a team of very talented artists and designers put together just for Halo, it’ll be alright. And what Frankie said was, I’m sure, just a reference to gameplay and the tone of the series.

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Reposting the same stuff is against the rules. You could’ve just edited the post.

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My only question is what game is Bungie mkaing next.

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Frankly I like 343i a little more than Bungie, I myself was very impressed with Anniversary and I like what they are doing for the future of Halo.

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> Reposting the same stuff is against the rules. You could’ve just edited the post.

I was simply reiterating my op… not actually a repost as the title says… the real rule violation is the amount of flames , and harassment i was getting from forum members in my op , so I was forced into this post , because my OP was mute and lost in translation… if you want to report something… report that.

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Was a duplicate thread really necessary? Anyway…

343 Industries is a company composed uniquely of Halo fans who love the series as much as anybody else, if not more. They were a part of our community once, and know what we want and what we don’t want. But even better, they are in a position to know what works and what doesn’t, more so than most people.

Frankie was talking about gameplay aspects. He might not have specified directly in whichever interview you watched (though in all the ones I saw, it was clear what he was talking about), but he definitely did specify so many other times. Just the fact that they’re working on connecting all pieces of Halo fiction together shows that the backstory is very important to them, and they would not dare to ruin it.

The only game where you had multiplayer maps that were put into the campaign was Reach, and the whole community had expressed their dislike for this. A great thing about Halo’s multiplayer is that it allowed us to explore great new environments, and I’m glad Halo 4 is going back to that. I don’t understand your argument about this changing the game too much though, would you mind explaining it more?

As for John being the last Spartan, that was never the case. Not only are there some surviving Spartan-IIs and Spartan-IIIs (as seen in the books, which are 100% canonical), there are now the Spartan-IVs.

As for your job, that is rather irrelevant, since it’s an opinion. One should put all their passion and love into their work, especially when it’s a creative product like a game. Bungie has always said that Halo was a game created for them, a game that they wanted to play. In other words, they were making the game for themselves, but it turned out to be a huge hit. In plus, why would 343 Industries release a game that they weren’t happy with?

It’s understandable why you’d be cautious about 343 Industries, but you seem to be rather ignorant when it comes to many important factors that you’re complaining about. If you took a bit more time to do research about the game, perhaps you would feel a bit more optimistic about it, like the rest of us.

I hope that cleared things up a bit, and I hope you end up enjoying Halo 4 as much as I know I will!

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Please for the love of all that is even slightly good in nature, Stop posting this unfounded rubbish.

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thank you… the explanation i was seeking…

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> Please for the love of all that is even slightly good in nature, Stop posting this unfounded rubbish.

Truck loads of THIS^

Not trying to be jerk, but COME ON!!!

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> > Reposting the same stuff is against the rules. You could’ve just edited the post.
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> I was simply reiterating my op… not actually a repost as the title says… the real rule violation is the amount of flames , and harassment i was getting from forum members in my op , so I was forced into this post , because my OP was mute and lost in translation… if you want to report something… report that.

You made a thread where people misunderstood your post, you corrected that error and decided to make a new thread with the new post instead of just changing the OP and apologizing for the miscommunication.

That’s a repost.

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> > > Reposting the same stuff is against the rules. You could’ve just edited the post.
> >
> > I was simply reiterating my op… not actually a repost as the title says… the real rule violation is the amount of flames , and harassment i was getting from forum members in my op , so I was forced into this post , because my OP was mute and lost in translation… if you want to report something… report that.
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> You made a thread where people misunderstood your post, you corrected that error and decided to make a new thread with the new post instead of just changing the OP and apologizing for the miscommunication.
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> That’s a repost.

EDIT: Never mind.

I have high hopes for 343i, so I’m not worried about the future of the franchise at all.

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> thank you… the explanation i was seeking…

No problem, I’m glad that I was able to help!

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> My only question is what game is Bungie mkaing next.

We are finding out at E3!, I’m excited. Plus Halo 4 will have a big showing!

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> > > Reposting the same stuff is against the rules. You could’ve just edited the post.
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> > I was simply reiterating my op… not actually a repost as the title says… the real rule violation is the amount of flames , and harassment i was getting from forum members in my op , so I was forced into this post , because my OP was mute and lost in translation… if you want to report something… report that.
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> You made a thread where people misunderstood your post, you corrected that error and decided to make a new thread with the new post instead of just changing the OP and apologizing for the miscommunication.
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> That’s a repost.

looks like captain obvious is actually you… Nice to meet you… I have meet most of your twins…

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> To make clear my OP in simple tearms…

I believe the correct way to spell it is, “terms”…

> I Don’t like the fact that Bungie is not making this game… Im not sold on 343i filling those shoes.

If Bungie were making this game, it’d be worse than Reach.
Bungie was tired of Halo, they loved it and everything about it.
But they wanted to move on.

Look at what 343 did with Halo :CEA. It was amazing!
What more do you need?

> I don’t like the fact that the “boss” said he was going to throw things out… he didn’t elaborate… but it was clear to me at least he was referring to the game itself , not so much the mechanics of the game.

Everyone has their own opinions. The, as you call it, “boss”. thinks that Halo could be improved.
And I say, “Why not?”. If not for 343, there wouldn’t be a Halo 4 in the first place.

> I dont like how the multiplayer maps will not be a reflection of the campaign maps.

Campaign spaces were designed mostly for aesthetics.
It’s much better to have the multiplayer maps designed with strategy and competition in mind.

> I feel like, when games change to much at first , the transition is lost in translation… we the players , notice and have trouble adjusting and sometimes lose intrest in the new learning curve.

First let me say that it is never a good idea to speak for anyone than yourself.
It angers people.

The beginning is the best part.
I remember playing Halo for the first time, I’ll never forget how cool I thought the Warthog was.
And I’ll never forfet that it took me over two minutes to figure out how to get in the driver seat.
Good memories. (:

> As far as I knew all the Spartans we killed , and master chief was the “known” last… Am I wrong? I dont know at this point because I am now being told different , yet by only one person.

Those were Spartan IIs. The new breed of Spartans in Halo 4 are Spartan IVs.
You do know that Spartans are created, not born, right?

> I create , produce , and engineer in a recording studio in california… the forst rule of creating is to not get attached to your work… its not for you , its for the fans… It has to touch them. I was under the assumption that when making a fan based game… it was , not in literal terms… our game…
> Just like bank of america is not literally the “bank of america” , i.e “americas bank”… I hope thats a little more easy to understand.

I disagree.
When producing a game, or anything really, it needs to come from the heart.
Yes, it’s corny, but true.

Also, you spelt “first” wrong, just so you know…

As for the rest of that paragraph, I couldn’t understand what you meant.

> Thank you.

You’re welcome. :stuck_out_tongue:

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> > To make clear my OP in simple tearms…
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> I believe the correct way to spell it is, “terms”…
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> > I Don’t like the fact that Bungie is not making this game… Im not sold on 343i filling those shoes.
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> If Bungie were making this game, it’d be worse than Reach.
> Bungie was tired of Halo, they loved it and everything about it.
> But they wanted to move on.
>
> Look at what 343 did with Halo :CEA. It was amazing!
> What more do you need?
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> > I don’t like the fact that the “boss” said he was going to throw things out… he didn’t elaborate… but it was clear to me at least he was referring to the game itself , not so much the mechanics of the game.
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> Everyone has their own opinions. The, as you call it, “boss”. thinks that Halo could be improved.
> And I say, “Why not?”. If not for 343, there wouldn’t be a Halo 4 in the first place.
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> > I dont like how the multiplayer maps will not be a reflection of the campaign maps.
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> Campaign spaces were designed mostly for aesthetics.
> It’s much better to have the multiplayer maps designed with strategy and competition in mind.
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> > I feel like, when games change to much at first , the transition is lost in translation… we the players , notice and have trouble adjusting and sometimes lose intrest in the new learning curve.
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> First let me say that it is never a good idea to speak for anyone than yourself.
> It angers people.
>
> The beginning is the best part.
> I remember playing Halo for the first time, I’ll never forget how cool I thought the Warthog was.
> And I’ll never forfet that it took me over two minutes to figure out how to get in the driver seat.
> Good memories. (:
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>
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> > As far as I knew all the Spartans we killed , and master chief was the “known” last… Am I wrong? I dont know at this point because I am now being told different , yet by only one person.
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> Those were Spartan IIs. The new breed of Spartans in Halo 4 are Spartan IVs.
> You do know that Spartans are created, not born, right?
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> > I create , produce , and engineer in a recording studio in california… the forst rule of creating is to not get attached to your work… its not for you , its for the fans… It has to touch them. I was under the assumption that when making a fan based game… it was , not in literal terms… our game…
> > Just like bank of america is not literally the “bank of america” , i.e “americas bank”… I hope thats a little more easy to understand.
>
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> I disagree.
> When producing a game, or anything really, it needs to come from the heart.
> Yes, it’s corny, but true.
>
> Also, you spelt “first” wrong, just so you know…
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> As for the rest of that paragraph, I couldn’t understand what you meant.
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> > Thank you.
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> You’re welcome. :stuck_out_tongue:
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> - III P u r 3 III -

you pointed out my gramatical errors… yet you failed to spellcheck yours… ? lulz… /facepalm

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Also, since you like to think people were flaming you, I’m going to take some direct quotes from you and drop them right here.

> It is our game you idiot…

> And the comments from the little kids on this post just prove my point even more… it will be a kid based game for little boys who flame posts on forums…
> You Mad bro?

> its what the fans like because they are the ones buying it… Moron.

These are quotes made directly by you in your previous thread, so before you even think about reporting someone for “flaming” you I would advise you to tread carefully as you were doing the exact same thing not 10 minutes ago.

Edit:
There’s this one too…

> looks like captain obvious is actually you… Nice to meet you… I have meet most of your twins…

So yah…

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I’d like to say a few things here. I am extremely glad that Bungie is no longer making Halo. Reach was a train wreck for a variety of reasons. With that being said, I’m pretty tired of people just blindly putting all of their faith in 343i. I’ll admit, I’m very hopeful for Halo 4 and I think that 343i is capable. But we still need to wait for the game to come out. I’m angered at those who say its going to suck and I’m just as angry at those who think its going to be amazing. We don’t know. 343 has not done anything yet, the game could easily suck. A lot of the features announced are horrible.