This is a list of all the multiplayer issues I noticed that need to be fixed in Halo 4 ASAP
1- Take out Join Session in Progress and bring in a solid ranking system (Preferably 1-50)
2- Take out camo and put it in ordinance drops
3- Take out the boltshot and put it in ordinance drops
4- Bring back descoping
5-Nerf the AR,Suppressor, and Storm Rifle to be weaker like H3
6- Stop taking out good playlists and bring back king of the hill, Snipers, and bring in Doubles and bring in an actual FFA Playlist like Lone Wolves
7- Make more good small competitive maps in the future and bring in some solid forge maps in Matchmaking
8- Make it so that you have to press a button to grab the flag instead of grabbing it automatically
9- Make it so 4 people can watch a film in theater
10- Take out stickies from loadouts
11- 343 needs to Manage the game better and make dub xp weekends like in h3
12- Make the game less noob friendly overall and listen to the competitive community more and the Casual Community less because this game is dying fast without ranks and mlg and everyone is going to black ops 2 already
13- Take out jetpack and put it in ordinance! Seriously it breaks map control and everyone abuses it!
14- Make it so Weapons dont disappear so fast after someone dies
15- Do NOT show a players KD ratio on their service record during pre game lobby and show it only on Waypoint. It makes players play for Stats and not for the win. Only show their win loss Ratio and Total Games Played. Sort of Exactly Like H3.
16- The Beam Rifle- Make the aimer smaller like H3 like seriously its so easy to no scope with that thing and it shouldnt even be in MatchMaking. The Aimer is HUGE and needs to be smaller!
17- Make it so players cant back out while being in the pre-game lobby when locked in.
18- Make the Carbine more effective
19- Add a quit penalty like in Reach or H3. Seriously I see quitters in pretty much everygame I play.
20- Try to organize the Playlists into Ranked and Social.
21- Take out Instant Respawn in Matchmaking! Seriously u shouldnt be allowed to die by the same guy u just killed and doesnt belong in Halo!
22- Make it so weapons stop disappearing every 3 seconds after someone dies with them
343 listen to this thread please for the sake of Halo
Please feel free to list anything I havent listed and provide feedback
I dont think some of these are a good idea, like #'s 1 and 5, but #'s 7 and 9 I agree with 100%. #'s 2 and 3 are better suited for MLG. I would realy like to see Multi-Teams and would LOVE to see the DMR get nerft ASAP.
Crysis is a good friend of mine & was one of the top Halo 3 players in the Team Slayer playlist (consistently won on his 50 with like 5k+ exp I forgot), so with said experience he has a more sophisticated outlook regarding competitive halo than a casual player; this is very reasonable list and I 100% agree with the notion that H4 needs a skill-based ranking system.
I don’t think that ordnance drops should be in slayer(unless its action sack), they should be in a firefight mode, but should also be optional in custom games.
> Crysis is a good friend of mine & was one of the top Halo 3 players in the Team Slayer playlist (consistently won on his 50 with like 5k+ exp I forgot), so with said experience he has a more sophisticated outlook regarding competitive halo than a casual player; this is very reasonable list and I 100% agree with the notion that H4 needs a skill-based ranking system.
Competitive players account for a small minority of overall players. Casual players account for the majority of the fanbase, and the majority of sales.
I disagree with most of his list, besides needing more maps.
What will the excuse be when they implement ranks and the population doesn’t double as claimed? Wrong ranking system?
I’d rather 343 spend more time on maps and bug fixes than catering to the wanna-be-mlg crowd changing the game to suit their narrow minded definition of what is and isn’t halo.
> > Crysis is a good friend of mine & was one of the top Halo 3 players in the Team Slayer playlist (consistently won on his 50 with like 5k+ exp I forgot), so with said experience he has a more sophisticated outlook regarding competitive halo than a casual player; this is very reasonable list and I 100% agree with the notion that H4 needs a skill-based ranking system.
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> Competitive players account for a small minority of overall players. Casual players account for the majority of the fanbase, and the majority of sales.
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> I disagree with most of his list, besides needing more maps.
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> What will the excuse be when they implement ranks and the population doesn’t double as claimed? Wrong ranking system?
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> I’d rather 343 spend more time on maps and bug fixes than catering to the wanna-be-mlg crowd changing the game to suit their narrow minded definition of what is and isn’t halo.
Dude if they add a solid ranking system everybody will play the game way more often and will be like H3 in its prime with so many people online and playing. This game is boring without ranks because most of us dont want to play badkids all day we want a challenge.
> 1- Take out Join Session in Progress and bring in a solid ranking system (Preferably 1-50)
> 2- Take out camo and put it in ordinance drops
> 3- Take out the boltshot and put it in ordinance drops
> 4- Bring back descoping
> 5-Nerf the AR and Suppressor to be weaker like H3
> 6- Stop taking out good playlists and bring back king of the hill, Snipers, and bring in Doubles and bring in an actual FFA Playlist like Lone Wolves
> 7- Make more good small maps in the future and bring in some solid forge maps in Matchmaking
> 8- Make it so that you have to press a button to grab the flag instead of grabbing it automatically
> 9- Make it so 4 people can watch a film in theater
> 10- Take out stickies from loadouts
> 11- 343 needs to Manage the game better and make dub xp weekends like in h3
> 12- Make the game less noob friendly overall and listen to the competitive community more and the Casual Community less because this game is dying fast without ranks and mlg and everyone is going to black ops 2 already
> 343 listen to this thread please for the sake of Halo
> Please feel free to list anything I havent listed and provide feedback
Yes, JiP could be more tuned, as I’ve seem to have no problems with it. But 1-50 we NEED it!!
Yes
Yes
Eh not for all the weapons
No, AR and the Supressor are fine
I agree
I agree
I agree
I agree
I agree to an extent. They would be more preferred with placing on the map.
Put camo in ODs? why not all AAs? they are all powerful and people only chose the strongest one. Thats all loadouts are. a way to pick the strongest perks over and over.
> Crysis is a good friend of mine & was one of the top Halo 3 players in the Team Slayer playlist (consistently won on his 50 with like 5k+ exp I forgot), so with said experience he has a more sophisticated outlook regarding competitive halo than a casual player; this is very reasonable list and I 100% agree with the notion that H4 needs a skill-based ranking system.
Really, huh? I think most of the list is crap and his assertions that Halo 4 will magically gain tons more people just because a visible ranking system is implemented silly.
> Most of what you said is NOT a good idea, the only way to truly make Halo 4 better is to remove the complainers so the rest of us can enjoy the game.
The game is broken as of now. But if they fix the flaws it will be way more enjoyable. Halo 4 actually has potential unlike Reach. So why not try to fix it for the better?
> Competitive players account for a small minority of overall players.
That’s just wrong, and communities such as Halotracker, MLG/Gamebattles, TwitchTV etc. are evidence of this.
> What will the excuse be when they implement ranks and the population doesn’t double as claimed? Wrong ranking system?
H4’s population is on the decline regardless, a ranking system will definitely keep people coming back and will probably surge the current population upon release. Halo 3 offered Social playlists alongside Competitive playlists which is why it has been successful for over 4 years despite it being an older game.
> I’d rather 343 spend more time on maps and bug fixes than catering to the wanna-be-mlg crowd changing the game to suit their narrow minded definition of what is and isn’t halo.
Yeah, not exactly appreciating the generalization of competitive gamers as a ‘wanna-be-mlg crowd’.
> > Competitive players account for a small minority of overall players.
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> That’s just wrong, and communities such as Halotracker, MLG/Gamebattles, TwitchTV etc. are evidence of this.
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> > What will the excuse be when they implement ranks and the population doesn’t double as claimed? Wrong ranking system?
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> H4’s population is on the decline regardless, a ranking system will definitely keep people coming back and will probably surge the current population upon release. Halo 3 offered Social playlists alongside Competitive playlists which is why it has been successful for over 4 years despite it being an older game.
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> > I’d rather 343 spend more time on maps and bug fixes than catering to the wanna-be-mlg crowd changing the game to suit their narrow minded definition of what is and isn’t halo.
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> Yeah, not exactly appreciating the generalization of competitive gamers as a ‘wanna-be-mlg crowd’.
I look forward to people’s excuses when SRC comes out and the population doesn’t bump up.
And there’s a difference between “competitive players” and “obnoxious tryhards”. The first are fine. The second are a minority of the first and shame the rest with their demeanor and attitude. They’re also far too common on this forum.
> > Most of what you said is NOT a good idea, the only way to truly make Halo 4 better is to remove the complainers so the rest of us can enjoy the game.
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> The game is broken as of now. But if they fix the flaws it will be way more enjoyable. Halo 4 actually has potential unlike Reach. So why not try to fix it for the better?
The game isn’t “broken” it has plenty of flaws that can be repaired but the way to fix them isn’t to try to make this Halo 3 anniversary edition.
This game will never be a Bungie Halo title, people need to stop trying to make it into one. Just accept it for what it is or don’t. The game will be patched, it will be balanced but it will not magically be reborn into the game the all of the nostalgia driven fans want it to be.
It’s not that I don’t agree with some of the things in that list, but I really would appreciate if people stopped trying to make Halo 4 in Halo 3. They’re both great games, there’s no need to make them the same.
> 1- Take out Join Session in Progress and bring in a solid ranking system (Preferably 1-50)
> 2- Take out camo and put it in ordinance drops
> 3- Take out the boltshot and put it in ordinance drops
> 4- Bring back descoping
> 5-Nerf the AR and Suppressor to be weaker like H3
> 6- Stop taking out good playlists and bring back king of the hill, Snipers, and bring in Doubles and bring in an actual FFA Playlist like Lone Wolves
> 7- Make more good small maps in the future and bring in some solid forge maps in Matchmaking
> 8- Make it so that you have to press a button to grab the flag instead of grabbing it automatically
> 9- Make it so 4 people can watch a film in theater
> 10- Take out stickies from loadouts
> 11- 343 needs to Manage the game better and make dub xp weekends like in h3
> 12- Make the game less noob friendly overall and listen to the competitive community more and the Casual Community less because this game is dying fast without ranks and mlg and everyone is going to black ops 2 already
> 343 listen to this thread please for the sake of Halo
> Please feel free to list anything I havent listed and provide feedback
Sounds like you want this game to be like Halo 3. Luckily Halo 3 already exists! So you can play that but please don’t try to change Halo 4 into Halo 3. I already played that game and I want to play a new game, not pay $60 for the same game all over again.
