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, so I would like to come out and say that my last post about this issue was actually taken down, by a less than forgiving Monitor, cheers to you. Secondly, I would like to add that the pistol still needs to be nerfed, usually the fan outcry is immense, but those of you with your cerebral cortex still in play, listen up. The Halo 5 pistol, is an overpowering weapon, it’s common place to see it outgun BRs, DMRs, Carbines, ARs, SMGs, and Storm Rifles. What makes it so bad is actually a few reasons, my first reason would involve the weapons 5 shot kill capabilities, and would actually make the game fairer with 6 shots. Secondly, the common use of the weapon, it’s no lie that everyone spawns with a mini-Death Star, and it’s no surprise matches usually devolve into spam fiestas with said weapon, especially in FFA. And thirdly, it makes all weapons, aforementioned in my explanation, utterly useless to pick up. Now, you may say I suck, I’m not a true fan, I am a crybaby who gets killed by a weapon and now I have a vendetta. There may be some truth to the second one, mainly because of the forums community filled with boys and girls that don’t really get what Halo is all about, it’s about honor, integrity, matureness, and fun. That’s what sets Halo apart from other games, but now I can predict the obvious hate coming my way, and most likely I will be banned by incompetent Monitors, that like to instill fear in the forums through bullying tactics. More importantly, I want Halo 5 to be the best it can, by making the pistol a 6 shot kill, we not only limit those with the means to ruin the experience, we set the game up to be played years after it’s life cycle surely should have ended. Think constructively, appropriately, and remember, do not post leaked content. 
I think the point of the pistol is to be exactly what you are faulting it for–being a competent starting weapon. It does not need to be changed. The point is for it to work.
I like this pistol. It isn’t useless. It doesn’t have range like br and dmr.
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> I think the point of the pistol is to be exactly what you are faulting it for–being a competent starting weapon. It does not need to be changed. The point is for it to work.
There’s a fine line between competent and over powered, and enemy team will destroy a team if they are not adequate with the pistol. It’s too much and making it 6 shots will diminish that ability to dominate so easily.
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> I like this pistol. It isn’t useless. It doesn’t have range like br and dmr.
The maps are very close quarters, you are completely wrong.
I can see your concern, but the pistol can be outmatched at long range by the DMR and possibly the BR in the right hands, and the AR with some dodging at close range. The Pistol is a potent mid range gun which I love. If I were to point out a weapon that is OP, it would be the light rifle, but it is a power weapon now so I can live with it. The AR is also a starting weapon and can outperform a lot of guns at close and even midrange, but I wouldn’t call it too OP. The pistol works well in its roll in my opinion. I do take issue with your claim that the pistol being a five shot kill is a game ruining experience, especially when everyone has the pistol, thereby equalizing the playing field, as I don’t believe one gun can ruin a game. Glad to see a well thought out post that has an issue and offers a solution, even though I don’t agree.
Pistol is perfect as it is OP
If I can give 343i props for anything in H5 its that they have the weapon balancing near perfect (if anything I would like to see the autos get a slight range nerf)
No! Pistol is literally why I play this game and not black ops 3. Leave it alone.
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Have you played BTB or war zone? Arena does have small maps, but there are also hallways to snipe down. Check out Plaza.
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Not every map is close quarters. some of them have very large open spaces, such as Truth and the BTB maps
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> No! Pistol is literally why I play this game and not black ops 3. Leave it alone.
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I respect your opinion, but I disagree with your point about the uselessness of other weapons. At the right range, a BR and a DMR outperform the pistol. Personally, I like the pistol, and I get that some people might not share the same opinion, but to me BR is still the preferred multipurpose weapon.
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BTB doesn’t have the pistol, you are done with credibility. Bye, bye.
Nothing wrong with the pistol sorry.
It cannot outgun the DMR/BR/Carbine/LR at range and no way can it outgun a AR/SMG/SR at close range either. It just sounds like you are getting beaten by the pistol through your own bad weapon choice in gunfights or your not landing solid shots with said weapons.
H3 had BR starts, Reach had DMR starts. Both these games enabled the lack of a need to pick up any other weapon off of spawn but H5 is 100% not like that. The pistol is good at medium range but close and long not so great.
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> There’s a fine line between competent and over powered, and enemy team will destroy a team if they are not adequate with the pistol. It’s too much and making it 6 shots will diminish that ability to dominate so easily.
Under what circumstances is this hypothetical enemy team being destroyed? Does said enemy team have snipers and shottys and railguns and BRs etc. and are still losing? Or are they just using their ARs over and over again? If ARs, they deserve to lose. Magnum will typically beat AR. If the team is losing while using power weapons and strategy then the 5 shot Magnum is not to blame I say. And changing it to 6 shot would not make a difference.
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> Nothing wrong with the pistol sorry.
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It outguns everything, I tested it with people.
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Do you not understand skill?
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Didn’t address Warzone or my other point…
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What kind of tests? The pistol may be more powerful than the BR or maybe the DMR (I have not done any tests) these guns are more accurate at range, especially the DMR, and I would like to know how you took this into account
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So a team that isn’t as skilled as another is losing, and you blame the gun?