343, Please add an option to disable crossplay between input devices in Halo Infinite!

In social playlists, there is no option to disable crossplay between controller players and keyboard and mouse players. This is a problem because of the strafing speed of the player spartan. Unlike previous Halo games, the time it takes to change movement direction is nearly instant. While this increases the skill gap, it makes playing without a controller a notable disadvantage. Let me explain: While using a controller, players get the added benefit of bullet magnetism and aim assist. Because this bullet magnetism and aim assist act instantaneously — far faster than human reaction time — the player using the keyboard and mouse is left at a disadvantage in gunfights, because they have to adjust their aim with the limits of human reaction time. While the player using a controller also has to adjust their aim to some degree, the bullet magnetism and aim assist will track enemy players immediately as they move from side to side, making consistent shots much more reliable. I suggest you study pistol fights between controller players and PC players and measure the RoF-to-shots-on-target ratio. To me, it appears as though players using controllers are not punished as much as keyboard and mouse players for firing the pistol as fast as they can. Players on controller are at a clear advantage in these pistol fights because they don’t have to consider bloom and accuracy as much as a keyboard and mouse player might.

I believe the lack of an option to disable crossplay really makes this problem much worse than it otherwise would be. At the moment, players on PC have to decide what advantages and disadvantages they would prefer. Would they prefer to sacrifice some movement for extra firepower consistency, or would they rather be able to move more erratically, but be disadvantaged in 1-on-1 gunfights. This is a balance-related decision a player must make outside of the confines of the game, creating a convoluted problem that appears messy from a game design standpoint and a consumer standpoint. If players could opt out of crossplay, this would no-longer be as glaring an issue.

Not to mention, this compels players to use a device called a XIM, which makes their device think their keyboard and mouse is actually a controller, granting them the aim assist and bullet magnetism while maintaining the benefits of keyboard and mouse. While giving the option to disable crossplay between controller and keyboard and mouse wouldn’t resolve this issue for controller players, it would resolve it for PC players.

Please consider adding an option to disable crossplay between input devices, and thanks for reading this long post!

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As long as it’s optional. I don’t personally care who I get paired up with.

It’s no where near the level of aim assist controller receives. Plenty of videos out there now that show just how mild it is compared to controller. Claiming to block all PC players just shows roller players want the upper hand no matter what.

Pre KBM update it was ok to play against KBM because KBM just couldn’t compete but, now it’s able to compete more than it could it’s a problem?

News flash, controller still has the upper hand.

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They have aimbot now. I saw one that got 2 or 3 no scopes with the sniper as broken as it is. Ranked is dead but for social there should be an option.

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The sniper doesn’t get aim assist when no scoping, dude.

This entire debate with MnK vs Controller really is ugly. It’s just a bunch of finger pointing.

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Heard it all before, cheater. The reports will continue to role in until morale improves.

What is it you exactly heard before? Not sure I understand what you’re trying to say.

The arguments and hostility that could easily be avoided here with a simple option to disable crossplay or inputs like the mcc.

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Or if people actually investigated stuff and stopped succumbing to bias from both sides?

That sounds like the much more harder solution nobody wants to take.

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You’re claiming KBM has “aimbot” now, which is far from the truth. You’re adding to the argument with false claims. It’s pretty obvious that controller still has the upper hand. You’re in denial if you believe otherwise.

And calling me a cheater? Yeah, ok. Really don’t understand that one.

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It has the upper hand in every game with forced crossplay according to your playerbase. That’s why nobody takes your side seriously. I don’t think you want it disabled.

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What has the upper hand? KBM? Not in Halo and you can’t be serious if you believe that. Controller has always and still has the upper hand. Post KBM update just makes KBM a little more relevant and I actually enjoy it more, well enjoyed it.

I’m not bias, I play on box Xbox and PC. I call it how it is, if you don’t like it then that’s your problem but facts are facts. I haven’t touched Halo in over a week now because the new Vikendi just dropped on PUBG, and I play that on Xbox because that’s where my friends play.

If KBM had the upper hand, why was it always roller players in the HCS? There were some top 1-5% KBM players in the HCS, but none made it far.

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Are you for or against the option to disable crossplay?

I’m 100% for crossplay IF it was more balanced. It does seem like they’re on the right track to balance it out better. Like I said, I’m not bias. I’d want everybody to be able to play together, regardless of their input of choice. With how OP controller was/is, it made it impossible for KBM to compete and if you’re upset because their finally tuning KBM so it can compete, then you’re bias.

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So you’re against the option to turn it off? Or at the least, disable inputs?

I really don’t know why you’re complaining and assuming you’re being rolled over by KBM. There is no input indicator and I’m willing to bet only about 10% of the KBM players returned to Halo post KBM update. You do know there is no more KBM ranked, right? You also know why, right? Because KBM was killed off because of controller.

You want an option to turn it off, fine but nothing will change. You’ll still be rolled over by your input of choice because I bet you’re hardly going up against KBM players as it is.

Your reason for the option is because you think KBM has aimbot now. You’re wanting it for the wrong, and false reasons.

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Alright, so you’re against it. Is there a reason? You shouldn’t be blaming the core Halo playerbase for something the developers ruined. That’s a very 343-esque thing to do.

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Are you afraid of something bad happening to Kbm if the crossplay change goes through?

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The core Halo playerbase? Please explain this core Halo playerbase and what separates them from the non core Halo playerbase.

Not afraid, but I think KBM will really be killed off because you have people like this guy.

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