343 NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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343 no more infinity slayer or infinity settings there not halo :frowning: just get rid of it all together no having infinity ranked and social playlist just straight up a traditional halo game! Dont tell me halo needs to change cause it doesnt halo 2 and halo 3 and 1 were perfect than reach came out and well u know most people hated that game it was trash. <mark>So lets see 25k-30k population on halo 4 currently wat a failure.</mark> . <mark>So 343 my suggestion for halo 5 to you is go back and play halo 3 and halo 2 and evolve your game off that none of this reach and halo 4 noob bs. Everyone wants classic halo back please just bring it back!!! i want my arena based shooter back god so much nostalgia.</mark>

Halo 5 needs:

-Ranked And social playlist

  • 1-50 ranks on ranked playlist in game!!!

-Make social playlist use xp based ranking system like halo 3

  • 4 shot br with 2 shot beatdown to kill

  • No dmr

  • no Light rifle

  • No AAs

  • No sprint

  • No ordnance (No personal no map nothing get it out its from cod!! -Yoink- that)

  • Halo 2 like sniper

  • Classic maps brought back

  • Spectator mode

  • No more Promethan guns

  • Be on mlg

  • Power weapons on map

  • Dual wielding

  • camo on map pickup

  • reach like forge with night and day affects and weathering effects to.

  • Nostalgia brought back

  • A -Yoinking!- beta so it doesnt fail

  • descope

  • Firefight

  • Spartan ops removed

  • Fun

  • Equipment

  • Nostalgia

-Competitiveness

  • Challenging

  • Not noob friendly

  • NO COD OR MAINSTREAM FPS SHOOTER STUFF!!!

-NO COD OR MAINSTREAM FPS SHOOTER STUFF!!!

-NO COD OR MAINSTREAM FPS SHOOTER STUFF!!!

-NO COD OR MAINSTREAM FPS SHOOTER STUFF!!!

-Nostalgia

-Nostalgia

-Nostalgia

-Nostalgia

Nostalgia

  • less aim assist

  • No Promethean guns

  • Fun

  • Dont fail again

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wat

Wat indeed.
OP, you do know that we can’t go backwards anymore? Removing all aspects of Halo Reach and 4, and just making Halo 5 a re-skin of Halo 3 is really, really stupid idea.

What Halo 5 needs is both, Infinity and classic, not just classic.

Looking at your post, I can tell you haven’t played halo 4 in a while. Play it again, trust me, it’s a different game. Specifically legendary slayer and use the br. So much better. Just do it. Trust me, you won’t regret it.

Or have both, wat a crazy concept, why no Promethean guns?

> Wat indeed.
> OP, you do know that we can’t go backwards anymore? Removing all aspects of Halo Reach and 4, and just making Halo 5 a re-skin of Halo 3 is really, really stupid idea.
>
> What Halo 5 needs is both, Infinity and classic, not just classic.

I concur.

OP: If Halo 5 were to be similar to Halo 3, it would just be very boring. Halo 4 is like the “future” of Halo, yeah there maybe things we all agree and disagree on, but I rather have both Infinity Settings and Classic Settings on two separate playlists. If not, add classic options in Custom Games. That’s pretty much it. Going backwards would be quite silly, TBH.

> Halo 5 needs:
>
> -Ranked And social playlist - Yes
>
> -1-50 ranks on ranked playlist in game!!! - Yes
>
> - Make social playlist use xp based ranking system like halo 3 - Yes
>
> - 4 shot BR with 2 shot beatdown to kill - Yes
>
> - No DMR - Why not? The weapon as a concept is fine, usually its just balancing that is an issue
>
> - No Light rifle - Why not? The weapon as a concept is fine, usually its just balancing that is an issue
>
> - No AAs - Yes, although add them in custom games
>
> - No sprint - Off by default, allow it to be in custom games
>
> - No ordnance - Yes
>
> - Halo 2 like sniper - If youre referring to a Sniper Rifle that cannot tear up vehicles, yes
>
> - Classic maps brought back - A few of them sure, but each game needs new maps to make it interesting
>
> - Spectator mode - Yes
>
> - No more Promethan guns - That is pretty stupid, why remove an entire weapon set? Once again the weapons are perfectly fine, its just balancing that can be an issue, besides the Promethean weapons are the most interesting weapons in the game.
>
> - Be on MLG - That is not up to 343, it is entirely up to MLG
>
> - Power weapons on map - Yes
>
> - Dual wielding - Not really, I’d prefer to only be able to hold one weapon if it meant that all weapons were effective on their own instead of only be effective if you’re duel wielding them.
>
> - camo on map pickup - Yes
>
> - reach like forge with night and day affects and weathering effects to. - That is up to the power of the system, id imagine that the XBone is powerful enough
>
> - Nostalgia brought back - Nostalgia doesn’t work like that.
>
> - Having a beta - That depends if 343 has the resources to pull it off, a beta isnt cheap, although having one is a good idea
>
> - descope - Yes
>
> - Firefight - Sure
>
> - Spartan ops removed - Why? Spartan Ops was good, although having infinite lives was a mistake as it made it too easy.
>
> - Fun - That is really up to the player, not 343
>
> - Equipment - On map equipment? Sure
>
> - Competitiveness - That is really up to the player once again, and not all players are competitive
>
> - Challenging - How do you make multiplayer challenging? Isnt it based on the players that you encounter?
>
> - Not noob friendly - Replace “noob friendly” with “Fair”, then I’ll agree with you, besides you need to get good somehow
>
> - NO COD OR MAINSTREAM FPS SHOOTER STUFF!!! - Define whatever you just said
>
> - less aim assist - This is a console shooter, aim assist is a must
>
> - Dont fail again - That is really up to the player base whether a game fails or not, customers vote with their money and Halo 4 was a commercial success, however the player base has dwindled and 343 cant exactly do much to stop that

> Halo 5 needs:
>
> - 4 shot BR with 2 shot beatdown to kill - No. The Carbine is now a viable weapon and even then, it can barely stand against the mighty BR. Previously, I was getting destroyed by the DMR. Now I get teamshotted by the BR. The Light Rifle should be more efficient than the BR anyway.
>
> Maybe in Lone Wolves (or w/e they call it now), the BR could be godly 4sk…
>
> - No DMR - Why not? The weapon as a concept is fine, usually its just balancing that is an issue
> - No Light rifle - That’s just… wrong
> - No AAs - I don’t mind, as long as we’re not talking about Promethean Vision or Jetpack
> - No sprint - I’d like it in Campaign
> - No ordnance - Yes
> - Halo 2 like sniper - If youre referring to a Sniper Rifle that cannot tear up vehicles, yes
> - Classic maps brought back - They wouldn’t be the same
> - No more Promethan guns - How about no more counterparts? The Suppressor, Boltshot, and Suppressor in particular are horrific
> - Power weapons on map - YES
> - Dual wielding - As a support upgrade, and it’d not reduce damage output
> - camo on map pickup - Yes
> - reach like forge with night and day affects and weathering effects to. - Yes
>
> - Nostalgia brought back - Enough with the blatant references. They kill games. #lolHalo3controlroom #lolHalo3Hogrun #lolHalo3FinalGrunt #lolHalo4Ghostrun #lolHalo4Broadswordrun
>
> - Having a beta - Community feedback is just as important as playtest feedback
> - descope - Yes, but I wouldn’t mind having flinch via trait zones in Campaign
> - Firefight - Sure
> - Spartan ops removed - YES, so they can focus more on the neglected Campaign
> - Equipment - Sure
> - NO COD OR MAINSTREAM FPS SHOOTER STUFF!!! - Yes to an extent
> - less aim assist - Why not just make the Spartan model smaller? Or reduce the hitboxes. Or reduce projectile travel time. Or make Spartans have a strafe again. Or make them do stuff faster…

> > Wat indeed.
> > OP, you do know that we can’t go backwards anymore? Removing all aspects of Halo Reach and 4, and just making Halo 5 a re-skin of Halo 3 is really, really stupid idea.
> >
> > What Halo 5 needs is both, Infinity and classic, not just classic.
>
> I concur.
>
> OP: If Halo 5 were to be similar to Halo 3, it would just be very boring. Halo 4 is like the “future” of Halo, yeah there maybe things we all agree and disagree on, but I rather have both Infinity Settings and Classic Settings on two separate playlists. If not, add classic options in Custom Games. That’s pretty much it. Going backwards would be quite silly, TBH.

H4 wasnt so much moving forward as much as it was more sideways but I also agree on separate playlists.

Dude, your doing what 343i did to competitive people (like myself) when they made a casual only game with Halo 4’s MP, except now your throwing Casuals in the corner and not supporting them. Why not support both and help keep Halo population strong in both types of playlist. Get a hold of your self and see the big picture where everyone is happy, not just being selfish and thinking about what you directly want.

-_-

Removing all those features and making it like halo 3 would make halo boring.

Every halo is different making them the same will make it cod.

good day to you.

I honestly can not support anything that this rambling incoherent message is asking.

We need a mix of both.

And I mean having both at launch, pretty much equal support. Infinity can use some adjustments, but building off of what Legendary Slayer has introduced back into Halo 4 can help make the more competitive/“classic” gameplay many like. Both sides like them, so support for both sides should be necessary. Shoving one into a corner does not solve anything.

> Looking at your post, I can tell you haven’t played halo 4 in a while. <mark>Play it again, trust me, it’s a different game</mark>. Specifically legendary slayer and use the br. <mark>So much better</mark>. Just do it. Trust me, you won’t regret it.

No… not really. Legendary Slayer is close, but still no good. Sprint just ruins the entire game.

> -_-
>
> Removing all those features and making it like halo 3 would make halo boring.
>
> Every halo is different making them the same will make it cod.
>
> good day to you.

The goal is not to make the next game exactly like Halo 3, the goal is to make the next game an actual HALO game. Halo 4 is so far away from what makes Halo what it is that it can hardly be called a Halo game. Halo 4 should have moved forward from what made Halo 3 such an amazing game, rather than try something completely different.

Halo has always been an Arena style shooter, which means everyone starts with the same weapons and everyone has an equal opportunity to obtain power weapons, powerups, etc. because they spawn on the map. 343, for some reason, tried to make Halo 4 into something that it isn’t by copying other popular shooters with custom classes, PERKS (are you kidding me?), personal ordnance drops, sprint, and so on.

Halo doesn’t need to copy other shooters though, because what made Halo so great in the past was that it was unique and different. Compare the population of past Halo games to the population of Halo 4. Halo 3 was in the top spot on Xbox Live long after it’s release. Halo 4 is in something like 8th place and getting lower every week, with a population that barely reaches 30,000.

If I want my own custom loadouts I’ll go play Battlefield. If I want some stupid perk that makes me reload faster I’ll go play Call of Duty. But I don’t want to play BF or CoD, I want to play HALO. Unfortunately, I can’t do that with Halo 4.

i knew i would get flamed for this post and it was really just to see how many people agree with me about infinity and classic being together what i really want is this.

Classic

Social

Ranked

Infinity

Social

Ranked

Put Infinity playlists alongside Traditional playlists, each with their own ranked/social sections. Retain the settings for each respective style, plus whatever innovations 343i decides to throw in as well.

Inhales, exhales slowly

Okay now… hear me out.

Remove sprint, keep it as a custom game option. Why? Primarily for the sake of the maps. History has shown us that the maps from pre-sprint Halos are generally better-liked than Reach/4 maps. Having a single movement speed also eases the burden on the developers, requiring only one set of quality maps. No more worries about map X not working with/without sprint.

This way, players from both styles of gameplay (Infinity and Traditional) get what they want, while the competitive players, casual players, and anyone in between gets what they want, all on a good set of solid maps.

This is my suggestion for the next in the franchise.

Like i mentioned previously with separate playlists, personally this is how it should be done. Once you start MM -

Ranked or Social (you click either one) then Classic or Infinity (you click either one) then you choose what ever game playlist you want thats pretty much it.

However, I just remembered, the population #. How this should work is get votes for What gametypes/playlists players want in Ranked/Classic and Ranked/Infinity and they’ll be listed. Once that’s done, then move to Social/Classic and Social/Infinity. Then again, that would be pretty confusing.

> Wat indeed.
> OP, you do know that we can’t go backwards anymore? Removing all aspects of Halo Reach and 4, and just making Halo 5 a re-skin of Halo 3 is really, really stupid idea.
>
> What Halo 5 needs is both, Infinity and classic, not just classic.

Took my words from me

We don’t need “both”, we need a good game. Not two crappy games split right down the middle.

If a feature is good, keep it.
If a feature is bad, remove it.

Don’t justify bad content by just saying “Oh we can just throw every thing we don’t like into custom games” or “we can just have 9001 sub-sections of the game”.

I think classic playlists are a good idea, as they give homage to what brought the game so far to begin with. But they definitely aren’t a requirement, nor should the entire game be based solely on what existed and didn’t exist in the past.

Sidenote: The Halo 2 Sniper was a complete noob cannon and should not be brought back.