343 Just Doesn’t Listen To Us

People DID use it

That’s a population problem more than a player problem, even after the PC port the MCC never really recovered from the disastrous launch.

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The first flight was about 3 months before the beta was released, and progression happened much faster during that phase. A reasonable person would assume they made an over correction to that. If that weren’t the case, I doubt they’d feel amicable to the recent improvements to xp gains that they got out within two weeks.

It’s not like the site getting updated was a secret, and it’s not like there was plenty of criticism on other sites. I just don’t get it.

They wiped the forums so that people wouldn’t discuss things that are already being talked about on YouTube and Twitter, and get way more engagement there, just to have people immediately afterwards, go to the forums anyway and still post criticisms? This comes off unhinged.

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“its just a beta” “they will do better”

meanwhile 4 years passed before MCC was playable

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Go back up and read the topic. That’s literally what we’re discussing. Whether they are listening to feedback or not. I didn’t say the current state of things was excusable. I think your response was very emotional, and reads like an unhinged screed. I like Infinite, I liked Halo 5, I currently love Halo MCC. Sorry if that bothers you, I guess?

Like, read this back and ask yourself if I’m supposed to take this seriously, as if this is anything I even remotely alluded to.

Gamers dude… :joy:

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progression should be the least of your worries

-bad hit reg
-bad server tick rate
-missing features, tons to be exact
-3 game modes
-generic mechanics
-free to play
-no anti cheat
-bad radar
-melee not working
-ctf is broken
-maps unbalanced
-random weapon drops in BTB
-random vehicles drops in BTB
-random game modes for ranked/social
-bad map design

the list goes on, but whales like you shill so hard and only complain about dress up.

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Read the topic again. The subject is whether it appears like 343 is listening to feedback or not. The subject isn’t is this practice excusable, which in my opinion it’s tolerable.

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Because if we are able to progress at our own pace by getting 10xp per medal and +50xp for each win and not just each match then the marketing team will have an aneurism because we aren’t buying enough challenge swaps and xp boosts.

What they don’t understand is that It’s not entirely how “quickly” we progress through the battle pass, we aren’t looking for handouts. We just want performance-based xp gains like in the olden days when progression was FUN.
There’s no reason to try to win unless you have a weekly challenge that requires it.
There should ALWAYS be incentive to win. It doesn’t need to be huge, it just needs to exist and be distinguishable from participation.

It doesn’t help that we have a lot of mixed voices in the chat room calling for different “solutions” that conflict with this tried and true concept.

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They literally have, in the credits, a team of people who they brought in from the community to consult on the direction of the game. I don’t know how I’m supposed to take this seriously.

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Leave is to a capital G Gamer to tell a trans woman where her input is valid. :joy:

WRONG! Hidden Xperia and Late Night Gaming, both huge critics of the 343 games, if I’m not mistaken were members of that team and they have been massive Halo fans for many, many years.

Oh, really? What then pray tell do I not realize is missing? Please enlighten me.

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Summary

“Leave is to a capital G Gamer to tell a trans woman where her input is valid. :joy:” youre not a woman

“WRONG! Hidden Xperia and Late Night Gaming, both huge critics of the 343 games, if I’m not mistaken were members of that team and they have been massive Halo fans for many, many years.”

Those are casual halo players, they arent even good.

“People like you dont even realize whats missing from the game.”
Gee i wonder.
one bomb
bomb games
BR starts in big team
able to choose what i want to play
weak weapons
weapons missing
10 maps. 3 big team maps
no forge
customs are broken
limited customization
Limited game playlists
infection
swat
multi bomb
multi team
griffball
Multiball
Multi Bomb
Multiflag
dual weilding
SMG
Mauler
Brute shot
grenade launcher
all promethean weapons
all original covenant weapons aside from the plasma pistol, stickies and needler
the list continues.

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This is exactly how it should be.

so the game modes that i can create in 5 mins from the custom game lobby is too hard to put into the game? Lol. Think about that. Swat. remove shields, BR start no radar BAM a playlist

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These kids on this thread thinking 343 will be fix the game in 2 hours just for them. So cute. Unfortunately for you, making or fixing a game is not an easy task. So just wait, grow up and stop acting like crying babies.

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I think it’s naive to say 343 doesn’t listen to us at all. If they didn’t then we would get no changes whatsoever, which isn’t the case with them tweaking xp.

However, I would agree that they don’t prioritize our input. On one hand I get it, there’s a lot of factors that go into decisions they have to make. But on the other, these forums and the subreddit brought up potential issues during the flights that turned into very real issues when mp released.

People like to claim these forums and the r/halo subreddit aren’t the whole community, but look at the biggest problems people brought up on here during flights: The coating system and monetization, challenge based xp, and player collision. These were all pointed out very clearly as being potential problems and look where we are now. All the biggest gripes about this game are from issues that the forums and subreddit really tried to shine a light on. And it’s not just here either, you click on a post about Infinite on any social media platform and you’re practically guaranteed to see one of the most liked comments under it addressing these points.

I get we as a community don’t know everything going on behind the scenes, but when we all screamed that challenge based xp wasn’t the way to go and they responded with basically “we have faith you’ll come to like it” in one of the Inside Infinite’s, it does feel like a lot of valid concerns are simply waved away with the excuse “you’re not the entire community”.

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It is

Debatable

Questionable server in general, latency differs between matches implying non-region based matchmaking.

Be specific, you listed 15 points what’s 15 more?

Slayer, Oddball, “territories”, CTF, stockpile, total control

“3”

Pretty sure this is opinion, unless you wanna back up your claim.

Again, opinion. Free to play doesn’t make a game bad.

This is one that is definitely true. I dunno why 343 thought an AI learning algorithm was the way to go.

Can be changed

Yeah but it’s not a make or break feature. It’s an issue once every 20 or so times.

It can be fixed.

Lol how?

Not all maps need to be symmetrical

Yes, and if you don’t like it it’s opinion and that’s fine

Yes, and if you don’t like it it’s opinion and that’s fine

Chalking this up to beta, holding out hope it’ll be rectified by launch

Opinion

Don’t forget about:

  • crashes
  • being unable to rejoin ranked
  • unable to set equipment in custom games
  • questionable ranking system
  • not being able to disable crossplay
  • no ambient audio directly behind the player/audio blind spot

My post wasn’t that hard to misinterpret, yet here you are misinterpreting it :joy:

You know what they say about assuming :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Ya’ll need to chill with emotional posting.

Don’t say “they don’t listen” when you could have read the 2nd flight report OR the fact that within a week of a major topic they address it / roll out something while explaining it.

It’s pretty straight forward when they say “Here is a thing, we have to take our time with larger changes”.

Not even trying to be elitist here, but if you don’t have experience working in a professional environment with a bunch of moving parts then take it down a notch.

This isn’t like Dani rolling out changes to Crab Game.

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Bruh let these people eat some more turkey, give thier kids some well deserved time and presents and get some booty.
Fr chill. Its gonna come

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They’ve already said they’re working on it, the changes will take time, they can’t just copy and past all the code from Reach and magically fix it.

The XP changes are a quick band aid patch while they work on actually fixing it.

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Agreed. This is a brand new engine. Reach and even halo 5 are not compatible here. Theyve put in bandaid challenges that conform to the current system. What yall are talking about is a major redo that could crash or cause crazy bugs if not given time to test. And this time of year isnt the time to test like that

I love how less than 24 hours after this post was made they redid the xp system again, and made it laughably easy to go up 1-2 tiers inside of an hour.

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