343 has been using the words “post-launch” way too often lately and it is starting hurt my hype for Halo 5. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still very excited and hyped for Halo 5 but everytime I think about all the content the game will have, I see a lot more content that is coming post-launch than that is actually in the game at launch.
We knew about Big Team Battle for over 6 months now and I had peace with it. I was okay with it because they were designing BTB specific maps to make the gameplay experience as good as possible for it.
Suddenly 343 reveals Forge is coming mid-december, which means no custom Arena maps, custom Infection maps, custom Griffball maps and other maps at launch.
I was still acting cool and thinking that it isn’t too bad since they are crafting an amazing forge feature for us with tons of new features and a lot more options.
Now, we are almost at the launch of Halo 5 and we only know about FOUR Arena modes being available at launch (Slayer Variants, Capture the Flag, Strongholds and Breakout(which is a modified slayer)).
When people asked about gamemodes like King of the Hill, Oddball, Infection and Griffball 343 said they were coming post-launch. They did not say they would come post-launch to MATCHMAKING, they said the modes are coming post-launch which could indicate we are not getting more than FOUR modes at launch for BOTH matchmaking AND custom games.
Ofcourse there is still the chance Josh Holmes was simply talking about bringing modes like KOTH, Oddball and Griffball into matchmaking post-launch in the weekend playlists and after that as a permanent playlist if they are popular enough but they REFUSE to answer ANY question that asks for an answer to this.
I already had the feeling Halo 5 may not deliver the complete package at launch that you would expect from a Halo game but now it feels like 343 wasn’t even done making all the content ready for launch!
We need answers from 343 and we need them now, not tomorrow, not next week, not at launch but NOW. We want to know if Custom Games will have more than 4 gametypes to play with or if we really need to WAIT to play different modes in Custom Games as well.
I know 343 is giving us all content for FREE but that doesn’t justify or change the fact there is more talk about post-launch content than actual launch content.
I’m really starting to feel a bit misleaded by 343. They have such an HUGE opportunity for themselves and the Halo franchise with Halo 5 but it seems like they are shooting themselves in the foot with all the post-launch delays of content that should have been in the game from the start.
Please let me know if you share the same concerns and feelings about 343’s post-launch content ideas.
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> Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
You don’t understand the point of this post. Ofcourse I rather have it post-launch than never but it still doesn’t change the fact that Halo 5 is looking to have less and less content every week until the game launches and we will finally see how much content is there and how much is missing compared to previous Halo games.
I was okay with BTB and Forge being post-launch content but only have FOUR Arena Gamemodes was too much. If it’s really true that Halo 5 will only launch with 4 gamemodes for BOTH Matchmaking and Custom Games than there is something seriously wrong with the way 343 set priorities for their game.
How are them telling you the truth misleading you?
Would you rather them tell you nothing, or tell you btb and forge are going to be at launch just to have you find out when the game launches that it wasn’t true?
I hate go admit it so close to launch but I would rather them delay the game a few months if it meant we get all the contents on launch. I know its silly but when I play a game that I know there is bass content coming later instead of at launch it kind of feels incomplete in a way.
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> Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind a delay if that means the game releases finished. Halo 5 is looking amazing and I want it to last a long time and I don’t think the longevity will last with so many things missing at launch.
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> It’s gonna be alright. Have a little faith in them.
I have faith in 343 even with halo 4 and 343 proved they can make a great game and listen to us (Halo 4 Turbo update and Halo 5 beta changes). Halo 5 is looking amazing gameplay wise but content wise it is looking more and more like a big step back for launch.
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> > Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
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> Honestly I wouldn’t mind a delay if that means the game releases finished. Halo 5 is looking amazing and I want it to last a long time and I don’t think the longevity will last with so many things missing at launch.
Exactly, less content means less longevity, means a faster population drop which will hurt the experience for other players. It’s a bad thing. Not a good thing and people should not try to talk this right about the lack of gamemodes
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> > Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
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> Honestly I wouldn’t mind a delay if that means the game releases finished. Halo 5 is looking amazing and I want it to last a long time and I don’t think the longevity will last with so many things missing at launch.
It’s not like the missing things are coming 6-12 months later. Btb is what coming a week or two after launch? And forge is coming in a little over a month at launch. The game can last for a couple of months, you guys aren’t giving them enough credit. And if the game modes are in custom games what will you say then?
As long as 343 stays true to their timeline then there will be no issues. BTB 2 weeks after release, Forge during Christmas break ect. I kinda like how the game has a staggered release, keeps it fresh.
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> > > Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
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> > Honestly I wouldn’t mind a delay if that means the game releases finished. Halo 5 is looking amazing and I want it to last a long time and I don’t think the longevity will last with so many things missing at launch.
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> It’s not like the missing things are coming 6-12 months later. Btb is what coming a week or two after launch? And forge is coming in a little over a month at launch. The game can last for a couple of months, you guys aren’t giving them enough credit. And if the game modes are in custom games what will you say then?
If the gamemodes are in custom games than I will have no complaints about that but 343 is really shady about that and hasn’t answer a single question about the concern if there are more gamemodes in custom games for the players to play with.
BTB is coming a few weeks after launch and forge is coming 1.5 months after launch which is not that long but my concern is with the Arena gametypes available to the players in matchmaking and custom games. If Custom Games is lacking tons of gametypes than there is a serious problem with 343’s priorities in delivering a content rich and proper Halo game. It will only make it look more like they want everyone to play Warzone instead of Arena so their REQ system will get more attention and possibly more pack sales which means more profit.
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> I hate go admit it so close to launch but I would rather them delay the game a few months if it meant we get all the contents on launch. I know its silly but when I play a game that I know there is bass content coming later instead of at launch it kind of feels incomplete in a way.
At Launch:
4-Player Co-op 8-12 Hour Normal Campaign
Arena Slayer/CTF
Breakout
Warzone
Custom Games
Post-Launch
BTB
Forge
Objective-Based Playlists
Just relax.
Games like this are not only more expensive now, but they’re also harder to make.
I can’t do any of this crap.
You’re owed a functioning product.
That’s it.
343 is still giving your more.
People have pulled hundreds of hours out of much less content than this.
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> > > Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
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> > Honestly I wouldn’t mind a delay if that means the game releases finished. Halo 5 is looking amazing and I want it to last a long time and I don’t think the longevity will last with so many things missing at launch.
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> Exactly, less content means less longevity, means a faster population drop which will hurt the experience for other players. It’s a bad thing. Not a good thing and people should not try to talk this right about the lack of gamemodes
So what’s the alternative? Have them rush the game modes and wind up with them glitchy and broken?
When people make these kinds of complaints I wonder how often they think of the alternative. If the alternative means the game winds up like MCC, then by all means delay the hell out of it until its in working order. You can tell 343 are being extra careful this time around.
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> > > > Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
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> > > Honestly I wouldn’t mind a delay if that means the game releases finished. Halo 5 is looking amazing and I want it to last a long time and I don’t think the longevity will last with so many things missing at launch.
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> > It’s not like the missing things are coming 6-12 months later. Btb is what coming a week or two after launch? And forge is coming in a little over a month at launch. The game can last for a couple of months, you guys aren’t giving them enough credit. And if the game modes are in custom games what will you say then?
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> If the gamemodes are in custom games than I will have no complaints about that but 343 is really shady about that and hasn’t answer a single question about the concern if there are more gamemodes in custom games for the players to play with.
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> BTB is coming a few weeks after launch and forge is coming 1.5 months after launch which is not that long but my concern is with the Arena gametypes available to the players in matchmaking and custom games. If Custom Games is lacking tons of gametypes than there is a serious problem with 343’s priorities in delivering a content rich and proper Halo game. It will only make it look more like they want everyone to play Warzone instead of Arena so their REQ system will get more attention and possibly more pack sales which means more profit.
All ima say is that I remember seeing a screenshot from a video that was recorded from one halo event : and in that screenshot they were in the custom games lobby and Shotty snipers was a selectable mode and we already know there’s no sniper anything in the launch matchmaking playlist.That was from an earlier build but I doubt they’d remove it. I would have to do some serious digging for that screenshot which could take a while.
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> > Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
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> Or better yet why don’t they just use the at least TWO good YEARS they had to finish the game.
Lol you obviously know exactly what you’re talking about /Kappa. Are you a game developer? By the way it took them 3 years to make Halo 5 and the game is already Gold and shipped so no more changes, sorry guess you’ll have to grow some patients.
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> > Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
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> You don’t understand the point of this post. Ofcourse I rather have it post-launch than never but it still doesn’t change the fact that Halo 5 is looking to have less and less content every week until the game launches and we will finally see how much content is there and how much is missing compared to previous Halo games.
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> I was okay with BTB and Forge being post-launch content but only have FOUR Arena Gamemodes was too much. If it’s really true that Halo 5 will only launch with 4 gamemodes for BOTH Matchmaking and Custom Games than there is something seriously wrong with the way 343 set priorities for their game.
If it not completed or their are bugs would you want that to launch? Maybe they want everything to go smooth this time. Everything will be released soon enough. Is it wrong for that, maybe but reality is that’s what we get.
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> > > > Better post launch then never at all or let the game launch next year. Take your pick I suppose.
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> > Exactly, less content means less longevity, means a faster population drop which will hurt the experience for other players. It’s a bad thing. Not a good thing and people should not try to talk this right about the lack of gamemodes
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> So what’s the alternative? Have them rush the game modes and wind up with them glitchy and broken?
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> When people make these kinds of complaints I wonder how often they think of the alternative. If the alternative means the game winds up like MCC, then by all means delay the hell out of it until its in working order. You can tell 343 are being extra careful this time around.
People are narrow minded and only see one side of things…their side.