343 is trying but they just arent bungie

Can I just say something befor everyone starts making opinions of me,

Firstly, 343 is killing halo and they know it they are, in my opinion, making halo too mass effecty, its going open world for one halo is a game that should not even mention open world but now its happening

We all know whats going to happen at the end of the reclaimer trilogy: the chief is gonna die because honestly anything after that is most likely going to be repetitive

Secondly another reason its going mass effecty is now the chief has a ship with an armory and a place to choose abilities see where im going:)

343 is going bust and they are losing so many halo fans its just not really fun

Alright now that iv gone and abused 343 ill give my supporting arguments

Firsrly 343 is honestly trying their best to give this complaining community what they want but honestly people in this community are complaing about things they asked 343 to put in and take out seriously will u ever be happy

Secondly and finally I feel 343 has done a great job with halo in many other ways especially by taking over from bungie then elaborateing on the story the did sonething bungie could never have done, they gave the game humanity

Therefore in my opinion I think 343 has done a great job and I am very open minded to what happens next in the game I have been a heavy supporter of halo in the past and I am fairly positive I will be in the future but I am open to what other people have to say about this topic

I definitely have to agree to both sides of your story. I love what halo 5 is gonna be like but it’s definitely never going to be the same halo like we grew up with. And to be honest I don’t mind it one bit because it still feels and flows like halo it’s just been modernized into what shooters are like now. Also with halo 5 iI finally feel like a im playing as a Spartan with these armour abilities being default. Cause they were supposed to be big and fast and bad -Yoink- and now they feel like they are.

Halo 5 is fine and it will do very well as a AAA title. Providing they make a few tweaks that is, try to provide constructive criticism rather than just complaining.

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> I definitely have to agree to both sides of your story. I love what halo 5 is gonna be like but it’s definitely never going to be the same halo like we grew up with. And to be honest I don’t mind it one bit because it still feels and flows like halo it’s just been modernized into what shooters are like now. Also with halo 5 iI finally feel like a im playing as a Spartan with these armour abilities being default. Cause they were supposed to be big and fast and bad -Yoink- and now they feel like they are.

Was meant to add this to it bur accidentally clicked submit I totally agree and I am really looking forward to halo 5 btw add me on live I only recently recieved a console of my own as in the past I lived at my dads

They could have pulled a Call of Duty and just churned out copies of Halo 3. That would have been horrible. Instead they delved deeper in the lore, added and changed features, while maintaining the bulk of the Halo style gameplay. If Bungie had kept making Halos, they would have ended up like Destiny, and quite frankly nothing would have been worse. Don’t idolize Bungie just because they started Halo, they aren’t perfect. I think 343 is doing a better job than Bungie would have if they had continued. And let me remind you, many of the changes that so many people complain about, originated with Reach, Bungie’s last game.

Halo story wise has progressed the way I expected it to so 343 is doing a fine job there. On the multiplayer side we have numerous complaints and nitpicking from the community due to unsportsmanlike conduct in the matches. This is largely thanks to the KDA statistic present in the game which causes players to judge each other as well as the mechanics of the gameplay. The multiplayer experience has evolved but it will never truly be accepted by the community as long as KDA remains. No one asked 343 to add KDA yet it is present in the multiplayer, a multiplayer which is team based and objective based and does not focus on player specific KDA. 343 need to remove KDA in order to curb the endless multiplayer criticism.

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> Halo story wise has progressed the way I expected it to so 343 is doing a fine job there. On the multiplayer side we have numerous complaints and nitpicking from the community due to unsportsmanlike conduct in the matches. This is largely thanks to the KDA statistic present in the game which causes players to judge each other as well as the mechanics of the gameplay. The multiplayer experience has evolved but it will never truly be accepted by the community as long as KDA remains. No one asked 343 to add KDA yet it is present in the multiplayer, a multiplayer which is team based and objective based and does not focus on player specific KDA. 343 need to remove KDA in order to curb the endless multiplayer criticism.

I’ve seen you comment many times on KDA. KDA isn’t that big of a factor. I’m sure it does affect some people who give a -Yoink- about KDA and makes them more competitive, but for most people it’s a non-factor. They like to view their KDA every once and awhile because it’s a nice statistic to gauge yourself on, but most people don’t freak about. Everyone still tries their best irregardless of KDA. It’s not like without it people all of the sudden stop trying to be competitive and stop going solo for kills. If you’re not using a mic, the most you can provide your team is to do your best, so people getting so caught up on team-based or encouraging people to go solo is foolish.

tl;dr, nobody gives a -Yoink- about KDA

After bungie released the garbageness that is destiny, I don’t think anyone should be backing them up. Time for a new developer to step in. I like the path halo is going down. Just needs minor tweaks.

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> After bungie released the garbageness that is destiny, I don’t think anyone should be backing them up. Time for a new developer to step in. I like the path halo is going down. Just needs minor tweaks.

Yes Destiny is true garbage with a horrible multiplayer. Halo is indeed going down a good path, there are just a few kinks which need to be ironed out.

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> > Halo story wise has progressed the way I expected it to so 343 is doing a fine job there. On the multiplayer side we have numerous complaints and nitpicking from the community due to unsportsmanlike conduct in the matches. This is largely thanks to the KDA statistic present in the game which causes players to judge each other as well as the mechanics of the gameplay. The multiplayer experience has evolved but it will never truly be accepted by the community as long as KDA remains. No one asked 343 to add KDA yet it is present in the multiplayer, a multiplayer which is team based and objective based and does not focus on player specific KDA. 343 need to remove KDA in order to curb the endless multiplayer criticism.
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> I’ve seen you comment many times on KDA. KDA isn’t that big of a factor. I’m sure it does affect some people who give a -Yoink- about KDA and makes them more competitive, but for most people it’s a non-factor. They like to view their KDA every once and awhile because it’s a nice statistic to gauge yourself on, but most people don’t freak about. Everyone still tries their best irregardless of KDA. It’s not like without it people all of the sudden stop trying to be competitive and stop going solo for kills. If you’re not using a mic, the most you can provide your team is to do your best, so people getting so caught up on team-based or encouraging people to go solo is foolish.
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> tl;dr, nobody gives a -Yoink- about KDA

Most if not all anger and hatred for the changes implemented thus far stem from this statistic. It is not so much about what KDA is, it is what KDA represents, the way players play the game no longer promotes teamwork or fun it seems that many matches or game types are used by players to pad their KDA instead of going for the win subsequently quitting when things get too tough. This behaviour does not make one a better player at all and serves to only stroke the players ego. I for one am tired of players mocking and jeering other players due to a negative KDA this is not something that was seen in previous entries such as Combat Evolved, no, this behaviour gradually crept in when Bungie introduced KDA in the later titles which has led us to the point where we are today. So yes, people do care about KDA very much, enough to complain about certain gameplay mechanics which take them out of their “comfort zone”.

I haven’t heard that 5 was going to be open world. Is there a source on that?

And Mass Effect is awesome so I would be all for a ME type format. Please provide a reason for missions to be formatted on rails for reasons other than “that’s not what halo has done in the past”.

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> I haven’t heard that 5 was going to be open world. Is there a source on that?
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> And Mass Effect is awesome so I would be all for a ME type format. Please provide a reason for missions to be formatted on rails for reasons other than “that’s not what halo has done in the past”.

Look at scified im pretty sure thata where it was said

343 isn’t Bungie, but I think that’s a good thing. Let 343 use that to their advantage and renew the Halo franchise with their ideas. Halo needed a revival and I think 343 is on the right track to doing it. In fact, I would argue that 343 cares more about the fans and listens/ responds more than Bungie did. They left Halo Reach in shambles before the title update and they revived Halo reach for a bit and Halo 4 was great. I think they have the potential. They just need time.

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> After bungie released the garbageness that is destiny, I don’t think anyone should be backing them up. Time for a new developer to step in. I like the path halo is going down. Just needs minor tweaks.

Everyone hating H5G needs to remember that old Halo will no longer attract new gamers. Yes, we will still have the old, but more new players means more money, which will lead to better funded Halo games in the future. 343i has the toughest challenge in the entire gaming industry: converting an older, classic game loved by many into a more relevant one by today’s standards so it can keep being loved. Unlike with Halo 4, 343i has taken the right steps into “modernizing” Halo; the core gameplay of the old games are surrounded by new mechanics, which most importantly, supports and respects true arena multiplayer. Just be glad that these guys didn’t keep going down the path that Halo 4 was taking the franchise.

They’re better story writers than Bungie, but I think they carry more ambition than talent unfortunately. With Halo 4 being incomplete/poorly designed, MCC being incomplete, Halo 5 still bringing back equal starts but otherwise being a completely standardized/uninspired shooter in every other way.

I do like that they try, and I know they aren’t out to make a carbon copy of the Halo trilogy, but for the love of this series you can evolve Halo without turning it into something it’s not. I like Halo 5’s competitive focus, I really do, but it literally does not feel like Halo anymore other than in the art design.

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> They’re better story writers than Bungie, but I think they carry more ambition than talent unfortunately. With Halo 4 being incomplete/poorly designed, MCC being incomplete, Halo 5 still bringing back equal starts but otherwise being a completely standardized/uninspired shooter in every other way.
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> I do like that they try, and I know they aren’t out to make a carbon copy of the Halo trilogy, but for the love of this series you can evolve Halo without turning it into something it’s not. I like Halo 5’s competitive focus, I really do, but it literally does not feel like Halo anymore other than in the art design.

I think the contrary. I think 343i certainly have the talent as developers to make this halo the defining new age for Halo since Halo 3. But, they need a little more time I feel. They are newer, fresher, and they are taking on a big title to start off that several fans are very sensitive and conservative about. Halo 5 hasn’t revealed much story line and the final product is not out yet, but I have a good feeling about this Halo. And the Beta will do this Halo justice and we will all embark on the Great Journey to play Halo everyday as we used to. :slight_smile:

I could not understand anything that was written in the OP… Can anyone explain the jist of it In proper english? I’m not joking either… Im completely lost.

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> > They’re better story writers than Bungie, but I think they carry more ambition than talent unfortunately. With Halo 4 being incomplete/poorly designed, MCC being incomplete, Halo 5 still bringing back equal starts but otherwise being a completely standardized/uninspired shooter in every other way.
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> > I do like that they try, and I know they aren’t out to make a carbon copy of the Halo trilogy, but for the love of this series you can evolve Halo without turning it into something it’s not. I like Halo 5’s competitive focus, I really do, but it literally does not feel like Halo anymore other than in the art design.
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> I think the contrary. I think 343i certainly have the talent as developers to make this halo the defining new age for Halo since Halo 3. But, they need a little more time I feel. They are newer, fresher, and they are taking on a big title to start off that several fans are very sensitive and conservative about. Halo 5 hasn’t revealed much story line and the final product is not out yet, but I have a good feeling about this Halo. And the Beta will do this Halo justice and we will all embark on the Great Journey to play Halo everyday as we used to. :slight_smile:

“The Great Journey” LOL. 343 is very talented especially when it comes to storytelling. Gameplay wise they have made quite an effort thus far but yes it feels as though they have mainly updated Halo and not introduced anything groundbreaking which could be seen as “the next big thing”. If you compare it to Destiny which is really the offspring of Halo and Borderlands, I would play Halo 5 daily over that waste of energy and money know as Destiny.

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> Can I just say something befor everyone starts making opinions of me,
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> Firstly, 343 is killing halo and they know it they are, in my opinion, making halo too mass effecty, its going open world for one halo is a game that should not even mention open world but now its happening

Uh…what? You lost me here because it’s never been said anywhere that halo was going open world…

even if it was no one complained when Bungie made ODST. But they were perfect of course.

/sarcasm