The community is. The “halo waypoint community” will complain about anything. 343 did an amazing job on halo 4. could they have done better? well that all depends on who you ask because its a matter of OPINION. Another thing is the lack of skill in players, is without a doubt at an all time low, all the pros left beacause of all the AR + Jetpack spammers. It takes NO SKILL to use the AR, or the storm Rifle, or suppressor. and it definitely takes 0 skill to use the jetpack. I love where 343 has taken halo 4, but the community shoots down everything 343 puts out. “oh the dmr is OP nerf it, the boltshot is stupid, the playlists are terrible.” thats a matter of opinion on all these things,and i think everything is great until everyone pulls out there full-autos and im the only one using the BR, then im attacked from all sides because my allies cant play halo and just spam the AR. if youre a "community, you should SUPPORT the people who made it and play it!
If you are a good Halo player, you should have no problem coming out on top in most of your battles with a precision weapon against an automatic. The game is invaded with OP DMR’s, not AR’s.
If you’re engaging an automatic at close-range with a BR, you’re doing it wrong.
As for the community, yes, way too much hate and negativity on the forums. I love Halo 4, but still, I have to agree with the community on a lot of the games’ flaws. There are major problems with this game that needs to be addressed.
I use the BR, far or close range, id dont use the AR because its too easy, so im not doing it wrong. And the “issues” you speak of are non-existant to me, besides a carbine buff, but everyhting else could stay the same and it would still be awesome.
Considering they missed out basic features like custom connection filters, campaign theatre, removed forge features, etc. There are things that 343i could have done better and built upon what was already there. They didn’t even do that, they just ignored such features. In that regard, they could have and should have done better and that isn’t down to anyone other than bad decision making by 343i.
The game is more than just multiplayer balance; something that seems alien to both people who complain and people who defend 343i.
Where are all these AR freaks? I never see anyone using the AR, its all DMR. I have over 500 deaths from the DMR. The next one down is just over 200 deaths. (Can’t remember by which weapon) Seriously. DMR is the problem, totally not AR. And it’s not the community killing this game, the community is sick of this game. 343 is the problem because Halo 4 plays very poorly. Most of the complaints on here are well founded, and sure they are getting repetitive, but we can’t start letting 343 think that we are content with this game, because we really are not.
OP,
Did you happen the catch the threads a few weeks ago where the posters were actually complaining about the menu music and the clouds on Ragnarock?
Apparently people don’t play this game, they sit in the menu for hours on end and when playing on Ragnarock they stare at clouds.
And it gets even better. Someone actually was upset the Jackals were right handed. I’m not making this up.
The AR freaks are all in my games, the DMR is fine IMO, allitle OP? yes but who cares. I think 343 could have done better, like adding in more vehicles than they did, and stuff but they DID NOT ruin halo 4, it’s people wanting what THEY want. (Which is just another Halo 3 with promethean weapons.Dont get me wrong i love halo 3.) But complaining is not the answer to dying over and over again, go play and improve so you beat the DMR spammers you encounter. I’ll be improving for against the AR spammers.
> OP,
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> Did you happen the catch the threads a few weeks ago where the posters were actually complaining about the menu music and the clouds on Ragnarock?
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> Apparently people don’t play this game, they sit in the menu for hours on end and when playing on Ragnarock they stare at clouds.
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> And it gets even better. Someone actually was upset the Jackals were right handed. I’m not making this up.
And those complaints were ridiculous. Yet the complaints about the reduction of Custom options, the cutting down of Theater and the balancing of weapons, Armor Abilities and Specializations aren’t.
This post is not only hypocritical but also misinformed.
The DMR is OP. There is no opinion about it.
> Did you happen the catch the threads a few weeks ago where the posters were actually complaining about the menu music and the clouds on Ragnarock?
One thread a few months ago. Which I bet someone made in a pathetic attempt just to give defenders ammo for their arguments.
No one took the thread seriously.
> As for the community, yes, way too much hate and negativity on the forums. I love Halo 4, but still, I have to agree with the community on a lot of the games’ flaws. There are major problems with this game that needs to be addressed.
I wouldn’t have to be negative if people didn’t spout ignorance like “COMPLAINERS GUIN COMPLAIN LOOLK AT DAT RAGNAROK THREAD” or “COMPETUITIVE SETTINGS R ARBITRARY”.
By the way OP, those Jetpack AR spammers are exactly the kind of people 343I designed this game around. So if you’re gonna be yelling at anyone, you are yelling at the complete opposite of who you want to be yelling at.
All the Pros left because you rebuke them when they have legitimate complaints, so now you get to deal with the results. I hope you find only games where the enemy team uses nothing but AR’s until my point finally gets across.
> OP,
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> Did you happen the catch the threads a few weeks ago where the posters were actually complaining about the menu music and the clouds on Ragnarock?
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> Apparently people don’t play this game, they sit in the menu for hours on end and when playing on Ragnarock they stare at clouds.
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> And it gets even better. Someone actually was upset the Jackals were right handed. I’m not making this up.
And this.^^^^
Wait, you make a thread to fight against the complainers while at the same time doing the same exact thing they’re doing and preaching what is or what isn’t “teh skills”?
> Wait, you make a thread to fight against the complainers while at the same time doing the same exact thing they’re doing and preaching what is or what isn’t “teh skills”?
I’m not complaining. The fact is you can give a five year old a controller and if he has the AR, beat he can beat most players on halo 4.
> Wait, you make a thread to fight against the complainers while at the same time doing the same exact thing they’re doing and preaching what is or what isn’t “teh skills”?
Why is it when someone is pointing something out, there is always someone else who comes in trying to twist it as if the poster is complaining about complainers?
> > Wait, you make a thread to fight against the complainers while at the same time doing the same exact thing they’re doing and preaching what is or what isn’t “teh skills”?
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> Why is it when someone is pointing something out, there is always someone else who comes in trying to twist it as if the poster is complaining about complainers?
…Because he’s blatantly complaining about complainers?
Why else would he make a long-winded post rebuking the community for complaining?
> > Wait, you make a thread to fight against the complainers while at the same time doing the same exact thing they’re doing and preaching what is or what isn’t “teh skills”?
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> Why is it when someone is pointing something out, there is always someone else who comes in trying to twist it as if the poster is complaining about complainers?
Because they usually are.
Like OompaMyLoompaa, if you are using a BR to fight someone using an AR at close range, you are doing it wrong and should change up one of your loadouts or change up your play style a little.
I have two Firepower loadouts with AR and either a DMR or BR depending on the map and game type.
Now, the AR is not “too easy.” You have to get accustomed to and be proficient in using it and figure out how to move with it. It has been that way since Halo. I come across many-a-player usually using the AR who will hold the trigger and then die as I strafe and burst the AR from mid or closer, or strafe with the BR.
Countering the AR is not hard, it just depends on your particular play style.
Jetpackers? LOL. Who sees them as a worry. 9.9 times out of 10 they are easy as heck to take down as they have no way to effectively dodge during ascent and descent.
Stormrifle and Suppressor? Those two are garbage at ranges past semi-close. If someone has dropped you with one of those two numerous times and varying ranges, it is because they know well how to use it. Thier range is less effective than that of the AR, especially the Suppressor. They are highly effective at close range though, so if you are going after them with a BR within their effective range, you deserve to be respawning while they are reloading.
> OP,
>
> Did you happen the catch the threads a few weeks ago where the posters were actually complaining about the menu music and the clouds on Ragnarock?
>
> Apparently people don’t play this game, they sit in the menu for hours on end and when playing on Ragnarock they stare at clouds.
>
> And it gets even better. Someone actually was upset the Jackals were right handed. I’m not making this up.
Complaining about the Jackal’s gun wielding arm is pretty ridiculous.
But complaining about how their shield only has 1 slit in it is a valid complaint. Why? Because variety. In the trilogy, if you shot their other arm or their leg, the Jackal would do a different animation. Nowadays, everyone goes for the gun arm (since their shield is so big and lacks the other slit) and the Jackal almost always does the same animation. It’s abominable.
> Someone actually was upset the Jackals were right handed. I’m not making this up.
I really, really, really, hope you are joking or that poster was being sarcastic. If not . . . . wow! Is all I can say.
Where is a link to the thread for this, please?
Copy and Paste from my thread…
First off, why are we playing as super heroes now? Back in Halo 1-3 we were super SOLDIERS. In Reach we were granted to ability to be invincible and fly around (lol Iron Man) and now in Halo 4 we have a riot shield (lol CoD) and the ability to see through walls (lol Superman)
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They sold an unfinished game. Yes all games are works in progress due to updates etc. BUT Theatre is half of what it used to be. Custom game options are nearly inexistent and force you to go back to Halo 2 to find a Halo game with such few options. Fileshare just got working after 3 months (too bad the game has 82% less people on it now than back then so less content being created). Forge has great new tools but don’t always work right and hinders some things people were able to do in the past.
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Halo 4 is a CoD game with a Halo title.
- Perks (Cant pick grenades up without 1? Really?)
- Care Package aka ScoreStreaks aka Ordinance
*causes a HUGE abundance of power weapons on the map which makes map control a lost cause if the 2 teams are close in skill. Even people that are negative -1500 overall can get a incineration cannon just by hitting someone with 1 shot and picking up assists. That isn’t right nor is it Halo. - Instant spawn (awesome you killed someone, too bad your shields are gone and he just respawned right behind you) 343i: Do NOT fix what isn’t broken.
- Shotgun as a spawn weapon (Boltshot)
- Riot Shield (“Hardlight”)
- Unlocking emblems
- Unlocking weapons (all of which are early in the game so it is pointless but obviously a nod to modern shooters such as CoD and BF)
Other things:
- Unblanced loadouts (DMR isn’t OP, other weapons just have too long killtimes to use over the DMR… yes, you Carbine)
*Lower aim assist on ALL WEAPONS. and boost kill times for the other rifles to match DMR - Horrible progression system that carried over from Reach (No 1-50 or any skill ranks)
- Rank Cap (CoD didn’t even have this… it didn’t work in Reach, why do it now?)
- Quick weapon despawn to take away the previously mentioned # of power weapons… 2 wrongs do NOT make a right.
- True Skill system doesn’t work. Never has, never will and this is why a numbered system is needed.
- Lack of Small maps. These maps are all huge compared to the old classics of Chillout, Lockout, Midship, Warlock, Guardian. Skyline is the smallest and is still large compared to older games. Which, with jetpack, we will NEVER see another small map such as midship or anything with a normal ceiling height.
- More 1 shot weapons than any other Halo game and more of them than “regular” weapons. And you spawn with 1.
- Flinch vs. Descope (don’t fix what isn’t broken!)
YES, THEY -ARE- THE PROBLEM.
Well the only crap I hate enough here is the DMR and the damn AR…