After watching a video that was recently done showing the fails of Halo 4, I need to get the message out there before this happens again. 343i you told us to trust you into making Halo 4; you didn’t take our opinions and you made your own game. Clearly that was not well received. My point is that you need a healthy balance of new elements and core Halo elements to make a game that we will enjoy.
I do not think Halo 4 is dead because you guys are finally listening to the community, but most of the community is already long gone so there isn’t much saving to do. Frankie’s reasons for not having a ranking system were laughable. If you guys haven’t realized that you need a ranking system released with the game, then good luck. You released an unfinished game and had way too many issues upon release.
This is why I am addressing this now. You need to ask us what Halo 5 needs, and you need to have a beta. You need to CONSTANTLY be engaging us about Halo 5 and not in the dark like Halo 4. You need to cater to the players that actually care, not the ones who put the game in and play a few games with their family. Maybe then a fraction of the community will come back.
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Well said op, but since 343 has already our money they couldnt careless if we enjoy the game or not, and the proof of that is the current state of halo 4.
Well they should care because I can tell you right now that the sales of Halo 5 will be much less than Halo 4, based on the fact that it will be on a new system and how not many people liked their previous game. If they are constantly showing us what they are doing and they have a beta that could change. Oh and most importantly a ranking system.
If you’ve read ANY of the bulletins, you’d know that’s not true.
Besides that, it’s common sense that they would care; why would a company intentionally ignore and screw over it’s main source of income? Just to be -Yoinks!-? They’d be shooting themselves in the foot!
Do you honestly believe that THAT is their mentality?
> This is some of the most flawed logic I’ve seen.
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> “they have our money, so they dont care.”
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> If you’ve read ANY of the bulletins, you’d know that’s not true.
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> Besides that, it’s common sense that they would care; why would a company intentionally ignore and screw over it’s main source of income? Just to be -Yoinks!-? They’d be shooting themselves in the foot!
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> Do you honestly believe that THAT is their mentality?
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> 1. Make the fans hate us.
> 2. Make Halo 5.
> 3. ???
> 4. Profit!
No, their mentality is:
Make Halo 4
Make DLC
Make Halo 5
They aren’t wasting time fixing stuff like glitches and balancing issues and ranking systems in this game! That wouldn’t net them any money!
> No, their mentality is:
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> 1) Make Halo 4
> 2) Make DLC
> 3) Make Halo 5
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> They aren’t wasting time fixing stuff like glitches and balancing issues and ranking systems in this game! That wouldn’t net them any money!
Is that why there was a TU recently, a ranking system is in the works, and other glitches/balancing issues are being addressed? It took 343i awhile, but they’re finally getting with the program.
I think Reach was a pretty good example of why we DON’T need a beta.
The Reach Beta was Great even with two modes on three maps it was fun. Then they closed the Beta asked the community what they wanted and we now have The Fail of Reach , or Pile of Retch , which ever you prefer.
This community is so fragmented and splintered about what “Halo” is , the last thing they should do is ask us. What you may like 10 others don’t , and vice versa. Unless their is an accepted consensus as to what “we” want , “we” are just so much noise.
> They aren’t wasting time fixing stuff like glitches and balancing issues and ranking systems in this game! That wouldn’t net them any money!
You mean the nerfs to the Boltshot and EMP blasts friendly fire to vehicles? You mean the slew of bugs they just fixed? The ranking system in the works already? Hiring Bravo an ex MLG pro to help with matchmaking in Halo 4?
But no keep raging this is fun, to point out how you don’t obviously follow the forums or 343i’s weekly updates. Heads up one comes out tomorrow evening (US) or early Thursday in the EU. Please keep up to date
So you are saying 343 aren’t listening to us? I would admit they SHOULD of done a beta. and YES, they DID NOT listen to half of our feedback BEFORE the game released.
However, post release, I’d beg a differ.
Well, everyone complained about lack of grifball playlist, they added that.
Everyone complained about lack of small forge maps in Wargames, they added that.
Everyone complained about lack of Pro based playlist, they added that.
Everyone complained about Boltshot, they nurfed that.
Everyone complained about lack of Small competitive maps, they added that.
Everyone got bored of the maps in SOps, they added new maps.
I’m sure 343 will fix the warthog, dmr, and ranking system in their next update.
> I think Reach was a pretty good example of why we DON’T need a beta.
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> The Reach Beta was Great even with two modes on three maps it was fun. Then they closed the Beta asked the community what they wanted and we now have The Fail of Reach , or Pile of Retch , which ever you prefer.
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> This community is so fragmented and splintered about what “Halo” is , the last thing they should do is ask us. What you may like 10 others don’t , and vice versa. Unless their is an accepted consensus as to what “we” want , “we” are just so much noise.
If they do a feedback system for Halo 5, they should make competitions on people making posts on a few particular threads made by 343 staff. The posts that reoccur the most, and the posts thanked to most times will be put in multiple poll threads. The community vote on the most important changes to make and 343 will list the best ones they can achieve and make those changes.
Then there won’t be much of an excuse for people to argue about the game after the first or second TU.
> Well said op, but since 343 has already our money they couldnt careless if we enjoy the game or not, and the proof of that is the current state of halo 4.
I don’t mean to insult you at all, but this opinion is incredibly ignorant. They’re contracted for a Halo 5 and 6, with the possibility of spinoff games in between, so they need to satisfy their customers.
> > I think Reach was a pretty good example of why we DON’T need a beta.
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> > The Reach Beta was Great even with two modes on three maps it was fun. Then they closed the Beta asked the community what they wanted and we now have The Fail of Reach , or Pile of Retch , which ever you prefer.
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> > This community is so fragmented and splintered about what “Halo” is , the last thing they should do is ask us. What you may like 10 others don’t , and vice versa. Unless their is an accepted consensus as to what “we” want , “we” are just so much noise.
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> If they do a feedback system for Halo 5, they should make competitions on people making posts on a few particular threads made by 343 staff. The posts that reoccur the most, and the posts thanked to most times will be put in multiple poll threads. The community vote on the most important changes to make and 343 will list the best ones they can achieve and make those changes.
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> Then there won’t be much of an excuse for people to argue about the game after the first or second TU.
That may be the best solution to this whole problem I have seen.
You deserve a cookie.
I’m really getting tired of hearing this. The only real thing that 343 failed at was balancing the weapon sandbox. Other than just a few weapons, the sandbox is actually well balanced.
Most people just jump on the bandwagon of hating Halo 4 since everybody else is doing it, so it influences their opinion.
> I’m really getting tired of hearing this. The only real thing that 343 failed at was balancing the weapon sandbox. Other than just a few weapons, the sandbox is actually well balanced.
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> Most people just jump on the bandwagon of hating Halo 4 since everybody else is doing it, so it influences their opinion.
Getting tired of hearing what? I’m not here to complain, the point of this was to try and build a better relationship from the start to get a better end result. Like I said, I don’t think this game can be dramatically brought back to life, we need to start thinking towards the future
> Not trying to be rude, but it’s hard listening to the community when all they hear is-
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> WE WANT HALO 2!!!
As annoying as that might be, there’s truth to that statement. Halo 2 was great because of great maps, a highly competitive ranking system, great playlists, fast gameplay, and yes glitches.
