343, I think it's time we talked.

Okay, guys, I think it’s time for a chat. When you guys took over for Reach, I had some good faith in you. Halo: CEA looked promising and I couldn’t wait for the Anniversary playlists. Everything was going great…but then you guys removed Squad Slayer. But why? There was no reason to. Squad Slayer had a healthy population and I played it quite frequently, mostly because I enjoyed it much more than most of the other playlists. Squad slayer felt more like…Halo. It didnt have Armor Lock, it had good maps and gametypes, and the 5v5 action just felt perfect.

However, in your quest to determine what people think about Vanilla and TU Reach, you changed up Team Slayer for a while using some sort of vote system. And that system did look good…on paper. But did you guys ever take human nature into account? A lot of people probably just skipped those pop-up windows you put in and just jumped into Matchmaking. Or perhaps, not everyone will vote according to how the system should go. Like, for instance, maybe the top option would be Slayer DMRs on Uncaged, which would appeal more to some people than TU Slayer on Reflection. So, right there, the vote becomes tainted. 'Cause after all, who wants to play without DMR starts? Not a lot of people…Most people, be it Vanilla or TU, will tend to vote for the DMR starts. After all, there’s not a huge difference between the two.

So, after a while of this voting process, you came to some…odd conclusions. I’ll paraphrase what I imagined to have basically happened at a board meeting.
“Hey guys, according to our Team Slayer polls, people like both Vanilla and TU Reach (DUH). THEREFORE, it would seem best to remove a good and healthy playlist and replace it with a CLONE of Vanilla Reach. However, said clone will just be TU settings. Nothing about it will be different other than the TU part. (Someone raises their hand) ‘Yeah, so why should we remove a playlist? Why not just add a dedicated TU playlist, or better yet, leave them alone?’ No…Because I say so.”

You know, 343, I was really annoyed with you guys for a while. But I got over it after a while. But then you guys started changing it up again. You guys started removing some maps from certain playlists, such as Select. That was a pretty darn good map. And on top of that, you added some of the worst maps in the Halo series to date. I mean, Midas…Really? Did any of you actually playtest these maps before adding them? Unconquered and Utopie are also among the list of terrible maps that you guys have added. And then making the third option in Swat always an objective gametype? Yeah, that gets old. And you know what gets really old? HAVING ALMOST EVERY MATCH OF TEAM SNIPERS ON COUNTDOWN AND ZEALOT! Those are close quarters maps! I want my Team Snipers games to be, you know…long ranged. If I want close quarters sniping, I’ll go play Shotty Snipers in Action Sack. OH WAIT! You guys are getting rid of Action Sack!

BUT WHY?! There’s absolutely no reason to get rid of Action Sack (Well, I can imagine removing Halo Ball). But seriously, Action Sack has the most diverse gametypes on Reach. Heck, you guys even dedicated the time to make a whole new gametype for it. When I don’t feel like dealing with the crap of Team Swat and Snipers, I like to go into Action Sack, or Anniversary Classic/BTB…one of which you are also removing next Tuesday. You know, the best part about all of this is that you do it in the name of shifting players from one playlist into the others. But, where do I go then after you remove them and I get sick of the leftover playlists…? If you take out Action Sack (my favorite playlist), then what do I have left? Swat? That annoys me after a few matches. Team Slayer always got on my nerves, Team Snipers was ruined with the addition of so many close quarters maps, Super Slayer doesn’t have that many players…(which is ironic, because it’s staying while other “low” populations are being removed) I’ll never get the Anniversary maps in the normal BTB playlists, because there will always be that one guy that doesn’t have the map pack (same with the other playlists). The list goes on.

So, explain something to me, 343. You guys have always claimed to be a community game company, or rather a company for the gamers/community. And yet, your actions seem to be the complete opposite. Just how is taking away our options beneficial? How am I to enjoy a game with so little left? After this update, you guys will have taken away at least 7 playlists and a few maps…Probably some other things as well that I’m currently forgetting. Point is, this update is just going to harm the community. I mean, really, Action Sack is listed under the Community playlist. And as I saw on a thread title earlier, you’re killing it for the Anniversary players. Some people just don’t have Reach. So, what sort of message are you giving those people when you take away HALF of their options other than the middle finger?

I’ll admit, it was nice of you guys to basically give everyone Bungie Pro and all that…But really, when it comes down to it, you’re doing more harm than good, which pains me. I love this series, and I want to see it thrive. But it’s not going to thrive with the current direction that you guys are heading. So, please, just do THE COMMUNITY a favor and scrap the August update. I know that someone or some people put quite a bit of effort into it, but just do it. Reach is good as is. It doesn’t need any more changes, especially the bad kind. Just screw it, leave Reach alone, and focus on Halo 4. At this point, it’s going to need all the help it can get. I truly hope that Halo 4 succeeds, but first, I want my Reach to remain…Reach, and not some degraded form of what was Bungie’s Swan Song. Thanks for your time (if anyone bothers to read this, especially the people at 343), everyone.

-An upset fan

I think all of the playlist changes are for the better. I would have preferred it though, if Action Sack just got tweaked rather than removed.

I made a thread on this too and I respectfully agree. This is by FAR the worst update for Reach.

I keep hoping that 343 will actually take notice of this community backlash and not follow through… But to be honest, I am not optimistic. Honestly, if it wasn’t for invasion, team snipers, and swat, I would’ve thrown in the towel on reach already. Hell, invasion already got rather boned by the new maps.

Agreed. Remove Super Slayer! It’s not fair that it remains while being so low in population AND being so arbitrary.

> I think all of the playlist changes are for the better. I would have preferred it though, if Action Sack just got tweaked rather than removed.

well i doubt cutting dlc playlists will make matchmaking times noticeably faster since they dont have high population. i cant see any other reason to cut them. i love the dlc maps and now ill pretty much never play them again. We payed so much for them and now they just take them away.

Very well said. I agree.

For what it’s worth, I agree.

I also prefer vanilla to TU.

It seems like 343 Industries is deliberately ruining the series.

> It seems like 343 Industries is deliberately ruining the series.

I’ve noticed.

I’ve always wondered if the former Bungie guys at 343 had a bad experience there or something. I notice that 343 changes even the most miniscule things, such as changing the Covenant ammo system from plain 0-100 to percentages. It’s basically the same, but was there any point in adding the % sign to it? Upon close examinations, it’s as if everything is being changed just for the sake of changing it, and that just annoys me. I mean, really, the Warthog? Did that have to be changed? No. What about Master Chief’s armor? Heck no, especially since he was in cryo on a broken ship in the middle of nowhere in space the entire time. The Covenant designs in general? No, because they’re still the same species.

They say that the artists are hard at work designing everything…Well, THEY WOULDN’T HAVE TO BE IF YOU GUYS WEREN’T CHANGING EVERYTHING!

I’m really disappointed with 343 as well. There’s a large change I won’t buy Halo 4. Strange because I’ve bought every single Halo before.

I’m going to try out Halo 4 and give it a chance. If its good, I’ll get a 720 for halo 5 and 6. If its bad, I’ll switch to Playstation.

> And you know what gets really old? HAVING ALMOST EVERY MATCH OF TEAM SNIPERS ON COUNTDOWN AND ZEALOT! Those are close quarters maps! I want my Team Snipers games to be, you know…long ranged. If I want close quarters sniping, I’ll go play Shotty Snipers in Action Sack. OH WAIT! You guys are getting rid of Action Sack!

Because in my opinion all we can see a SWAT squad running into an house with barrets trying to no-scope people.
Haven’t you see it yet?

Team sniper has become just ridiculus…

> I’m going to try out Halo 4 and give it a chance. If its good, I’ll get a 720 for halo 5 and 6. If its bad, I’ll switch to Playstation.

Never say or switch to the P… Pla… I can’t write that word…

> I’m going to try out Halo 4 and give it a chance. If its good, I’ll get a 720 for halo 5 and 6. If its bad, I’ll switch to Playstation.

At this point, I only want Halo 4 for the Campaign. The multiplayer seems lacking, and it doesn’t look like 343 will give it much care anyway. Or rather, proper care at least.

Anybody noticed how they removed the zero bloom slayer playlist too? Now the only places in matchmaking where I get to experience this update that 343 supposedly wanted to be available for everyone are MLG (which I get boned in) and the anniversary playlists (which I don’t have the maps to play). Now I have to go back to Halo 3 if I want to play without bloom.

Very well said, OP. I couldn’t agree more with what you had to say

> Anybody noticed how they removed the zero bloom slayer playlist too? Now the only places in matchmaking where I get to experience this update that 343 supposedly wanted to be available for everyone are MLG (which I get boned in) and the anniversary playlists (which I don’t have the maps to play). Now I have to go back to Halo 3 if I want to play without bloom.

Actually its possible to find zb slayer in the super slayer playlist. It just has a very lower chance of showing up, and its always the third vote option.