343 HASN'T PLAYED THEIR OWN GAME

So i just start MCC to see what? You guys have changed ALL par score points for every single mission. Before it was 25.000 fore every mission now you have dropped it to even 8.000 points? I MEAN SERIOUSLY? YOU KNOW WHAT IS THIS? IT’S 17.000 POINTS LESS! HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE RELEASING THE GAME? You did not see that you were missing an average of 17.000 points for missions? It’s a shame you sold us a product that you haven’t played! And there is no excuse. Ok for multi, wrong estimation but campaign? It’s a shame! Shame on you really. 70 bucks lol

Oh and guess what, for half of the maps I’ve already beaten these new scores, now all these achievements are on Done! Unlocking… and won’t unlock! Thanks.

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> So i just start MCC to see what? You guys have changed ALL par score points for every single mission. Before it was 25.000 fore every mission now you have dropped it to even 8.000 points? I MEAN SERIOUSLY? YOU KNOW WHAT IS THIS? IT’S 17.000 POINTS LESS! HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE RELEASING THE GAME? You did not see that you were missing an average of 17.000 points for missions? It’s a shame you sold us a product that you haven’t played! And there is no excuse. Ok for multi, wrong estimation but campaign? It’s a shame! Shame on you really. 70 bucks lol

Care to elaborate for those who are really confused?

I’ve never seen someone so upset over par scores before. Did you ever think that maybe they are able to obtain those scores and you are just bad at the game?

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> > So i just start MCC to see what? You guys have changed ALL par score points for every single mission. Before it was 25.000 fore every mission now you have dropped it to even 8.000 points? I MEAN SERIOUSLY? YOU KNOW WHAT IS THIS? IT’S 17.000 POINTS LESS! HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE RELEASING THE GAME? You did not see that you were missing an average of 17.000 points for missions? It’s a shame you sold us a product that you haven’t played! And there is no excuse. Ok for multi, wrong estimation but campaign? It’s a shame! Shame on you really. 70 bucks lol
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Yeah, I read and re-read his post but… I can’t make heads or tails of what he’s trying to say either.

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> I’ve never seen someone so upset over par scores before. Did you ever think that maybe they are able to obtain those scores and you are just bad at the game?

Did you ever think that they are based on average performance? And no, for your information I’ve beaten all par scores for Halo CE,3 and 4 but didn’t try 2…It’s just so annoying that they haven’t played their game.

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> So i just start MCC to see what? You guys have changed ALL par score points for every single mission. Before it was 25.000 fore every mission now you have dropped it to even 8.000 points? I MEAN SERIOUSLY? YOU KNOW WHAT IS THIS? IT’S 17.000 POINTS LESS! HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE RELEASING THE GAME? You did not see that you were missing an average of 17.000 points for missions? It’s a shame you sold us a product that you haven’t played! And there is no excuse. Ok for multi, wrong estimation but campaign? It’s a shame! Shame on you really. 70 bucks lol
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> Oh and guess what, for half of the maps I’ve already beaten these new scores, now all these achievements are on Done! Unlocking… and won’t unlock! Thanks.

Woah, calm down there cowboy and please restate your problem in a normal manner so people can understand and help you, ok? :slight_smile:

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> Did you ever think that they are based on average performance? And no, for your information I’ve beaten all par scores for Halo CE,3 and 4 but didn’t try 2…It’s just so annoying that they haven’t played their game.

Not sure how this means they didn’t play their game…

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> > > So i just start MCC to see what? You guys have changed ALL par score points for every single mission. Before it was 25.000 fore every mission now you have dropped it to even 8.000 points? I MEAN SERIOUSLY? YOU KNOW WHAT IS THIS? IT’S 17.000 POINTS LESS! HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE RELEASING THE GAME? You did not see that you were missing an average of 17.000 points for missions? It’s a shame you sold us a product that you haven’t played! And there is no excuse. Ok for multi, wrong estimation but campaign? It’s a shame! Shame on you really. 70 bucks lol
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> > Woah, calm down there cowboy and please restate your problem in a normal manner so people can understand and help you, ok? :slight_smile:
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> Thanks but I don’t need any help! I am just complaining that they haven;t tested the game. First they release a broken Halo 2 LASO playlist which was ridiculous to complete and took them a month to sort and now the change par scores from 25.000 to 8.000! No that’s unfair! I was trying some maps 3 and 4 times and lost scores because I score 24.000 and now they drop it to 8.000? Without any notice? WTH

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> Not sure how this means they didn’t play their game…

If they played their game they would know that 25.000 is far to much for outskirts for example! That’s how it means they didn’t play it. Also before stating that many are able to obtain them, look at the leaderboards.

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> > > So i just start MCC to see what? You guys have changed ALL par score points for every single mission. Before it was 25.000 fore every mission now you have dropped it to even 8.000 points? I MEAN SERIOUSLY? YOU KNOW WHAT IS THIS? IT’S 17.000 POINTS LESS! HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE RELEASING THE GAME? You did not see that you were missing an average of 17.000 points for missions? It’s a shame you sold us a product that you haven’t played! And there is no excuse. Ok for multi, wrong estimation but campaign? It’s a shame! Shame on you really. 70 bucks lol
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> Yeah, I read and re-read his post but… I can’t make heads or tails of what he’s trying to say either.

Yeah. I think he’s saying Par scores are now 8,000 points instead of 25,000, but I haven’t seen that and the rest of his post makes no sense

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Not really they could have played it and got 25000 on the regular and thus thought it was a reasonable score…

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Yeah, for all missions!

This is very good.
I called them out on this as it being lazy developing before, I mean all the scores were high rounded multitudes of 5000, like 20000 or 25000, but they weren’t truly representative of what even a good player could achieve on Legendary without using any skulls.
I’m glad they listened as the scores were complete BS on Halo 2 at least (Halo 1 and 3 need some work too) and they now understand the meaning of the word “par”.
Now they need to look at the par times as well. Halo 2 was 3.5 hours with all the par times combined (now, every level is always a multitude of 5 minutes, which isn’t logical) and that needs to be altered in order to fit with the 3 hour achievement better. They should have plenty of stats to back this up by now and do the appropriate modifications to every game, if necessary.

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> This is very good.
> I called them out on this as it being lazy developing before, I mean all the scores were high rounded multitudes of 5000, like 20000 or 25000, but they weren’t truly representative of what even a good player could achieve on Legendary without using any skulls.
> I’m glad they listened as the scores were complete BS on Halo 2 at least (Halo 1 and 3 need some work too) and they now understand the meaning of the word “par”.
> Now they need to look at the par times as well. Halo 2 was 3.5 hours with all the par times combined (now, every level is always a multitude of 5 minutes, which isn’t logical) and that needs to be altered in order to fit with the 3 hour achievement better. They should have plenty of stats to back this up by now and do the appropriate modifications to every game, if necessary.

I agree that it’s good what they did but it’s also a sign that they haven’t played the game! That’s why I am pissed!

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> > I’m glad they listened as the scores were complete BS on Halo 2 at least (Halo 1 and 3 need some work too) and they now understand the meaning of the word “par”.
> > Now they need to look at the par times as well. Halo 2 was 3.5 hours with all the par times combined (now, every level is always a multitude of 5 minutes, which isn’t logical) and that needs to be altered in order to fit with the 3 hour achievement better. They should have plenty of stats to back this up by now and do the appropriate modifications to every game, if necessary.
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> I agree that it’s good what they did but it’s also a sign that they haven’t played the game! That’s why I am pissed!

Agreed, they were arbitrary placeholder numbers. I’m not pissed though, I wasn’t going to go for 25000 points on a level where I could get max 12000 on Legendary without dying and going fast at that. I’m glad 343 got that as I think many gave the middle finger in that case as well. Not everyone is a LASO pro.